I see people dance to the house & rave mixes at the club and I want to do the same, are there any videos that show the moves everything whats the best way to become real good at raving?

-- Anonymous, August 17, 1999

Answers

Well, everybody has there own way of dancing and that is what expresses that person on an individual basis. A lot of people that dance are dancing Liquid. Someone can show you the basics of liquid, which is also used a lot for glow sticks, but to truly understand it, you really have to try to dance Liquid while tripping balls. Trust me, it really helps.

-- Anonymous, August 17, 1999

rave dancing's roots are from breakin and popin...go rent breakdancing the movie. and basically from there make your own shit up..or go and watch kids and then go home and try it...go to a rav stand in the corner get over the fear and just try th shit..if someone cares that you cant dance they are fucked in the head...so that is all the more why you shouldnt care if you look dumb..like the guy said before try some added toxic elements ...they will help or at least seem like it

-- Anonymous, August 18, 1999

Everybody has there own style, just get up and do it, it will come to ya. Don't worry about what people think, if they don't like your flavor, Fuckum, they shouldn't be there anyway, I don't go to judge peps. I go to roll and spread the love. PEACE OUT!

-- Anonymous, August 18, 1999

This is stupid. Wrong. Wrong. Its all about the music. Period. You don't learn. You just get out there and jump around until you can't walk. Simple.

Wear what you want. Jump how you want. Pay attention to the beat, ignore the beat. Of course, be respectful of the space of others. But otherwise...

-- Anonymous, August 26, 1999

everyone is right, don't try and mimic another's style just fry your nuts off take a few minutes and shut your eyes, you will see the music and then it will just flow. just love the music, everyone else already figured it out

pece, love, unity, respect: keep true to it and you will always have a great party :-)

-- Anonymous, August 31, 1999

One of the main tricks to learning how to dance Liquid is simple: Practice, practice, practice. Start by putting the tips of your fingers together, and practice making wave motions with your hands. This is just training yourself to move your hands together. Whenever you get bored, just throw out a little bit of liquid. Practicing it in the mirror really helps, too. Liquid can be a bit addictive though. People (including myself) have been known to walk down the street doin' that shit. It can get you some weird looks at times. :)

-- Anonymous, September 27, 1999

Hey

Here is the deal. I haven't been going to Rave's for that long, so I feel ya. So, what ya gotta do is just grab a pair of glowsticks and just go off!!!!!! Feel the music. Don't worry about what others think, they are probably rollin their asses off anyway and will think anything is cool. It is pretty easy to get the hang of. I caught on real quick. Pop a few clovers or something and do your thing. Its all about what you feel anyway.

E-mail me and let me know how things come along.

-- Anonymous, November 17, 1999

First of all you cant worry what your gonna look like...most people are rollin their nuts off so they'll think anything is cool. Next just go to a rave and watch...then go home and lock yourself in your bathroom with glowsticks, turn the lights off and practice what you saw and soon enough you'll be doin your own form of liquid. but i have to warn you...like that guy said, liquid is addicting. Once you get to do it well you'll be doin it all the time and you wont even realize it but thats the fun of it. Peace, Love, and Rave....Brooklyn

-- Anonymous, February 21, 2000

The best and only way to dance the many dances well is to go to alot of raves, roll, have fun, watch people, copy people, ask people to dance in front of you, and ask them to show you how they do that move. When your at home, dance in front of a mirror some. But the best way to practice is without a mirror and in front of a video camera. You can then watch yourself and critique yourself.

-- Anonymous, March 05, 2000

I've only been raving for about six months,and this is what I've found. At first I couldn't dance worth a fuck. I had a couple old school friends show me some stuff, then started going to parties and absorbing the music. Then I took two white doves......now people circle around me and watch me dance!

-- Anonymous, March 22, 2000

well i have been dancing before i waz even in the scene. i learned how to dance from watching people, and over the years i picked up a moves from different people from all over the the place.

-- Anonymous, March 31, 2000

whats up kid!!! k. ill let u in on a little dance secret....... there is no way to "learn" u just have to go out and do it. trust me, it will come to you. grab some glowstix and

BREAK EM, SHAKE EM, AND LET THE MUSIC TAKE EM!!!!!!

plur to all my peeps out there!!!!! dickie

-- Anonymous, April 28, 2000

I just started raving last year, and every time I'd go to a rave I would feel embarrassed to dance. Until not long ago I went to a rave rolling my ass off, then borrowed some glowstix and started dancing. Some girl even asked me if I could dance with the stix infront of her face. I didn't care how I danced, I just felt the music rolling through my body. It was my best rave ever!!!

-- Anonymous, May 03, 2000

alright, here's the deal... until you roll your ass off.... you aren't going to understand. Dancing at a rave is more of a state of mind... you have to become the music. Take your pill... sit there, close yoru eyes and let it consume you... start moving yoru head and just see the music and do what your body tells you... you won't be able to help but move around and your flow will be awesome.... any questions... give me a holla. you got my email... ga ga geez... I'm out!

-- Anonymous, May 06, 2000

All the answers I've read here are right. You just gotta roll (or get shrooms-paper sux!) and watch people for a little while. Then get up there and start dancing, start with small leg and arm movements, then when you get more ideas, make them more sweeping or dramatic. With glowsticks, I find that symmetry is key-don't have your arms moving independent of each other, have them react and match each other. I also find that dancing by watching the glowstick's trail can help. As for leg movements- well, those probably just come to people after awhile- DANCE roll DANCE....and put your personality into your dancin- make it your own shit, not just a copy of I.B.Ravin over there. Since I have a quirky sense of humor, now and then I'll throw shit in there and people'll be like "what?" and I'll be like "That's right" ;) Anyway, good luck, have fun, Love you- -Daniel

-- Anonymous, July 31, 2000

What up, everyone on here is just about right. but you dont have to be on any thing to do it(pills). just flow with it. i've been going to raves for about 1 year now the only thing is at my first rave i already knew how to dance (liquid). i was lucky i guess..... one of my friends in my class at school was always talken bout rave and doing a bet of liquid sometimes in class. he showed me how the basics(put your hands together and move them up and down with your fingure tips bending down over on top of your other hands fingures.) by doning that i soon was able to do liquidation. the cool thing is i learned within a month a hella faster then anyone i know and had never been to a rave plus i had never seen any one do liquid. i first learned back in Dec. 1999 and my first rave was in Jan. 2000. just practice alot. when your bored... do a little liquidation and in know time you'll have people come up to you saying "Tight....show me how you did that!"

-- Anonymous, October 18, 2000

the only way to learn is to just do it. for me , on drugs or not , i can feel drum and bass and jungle beats. and when you can feel the music you are really dancing.when i started dancing , i had a friend who was pretty good at liquid. the one thing that he told me that stuck out was that when your dancing, just think of a wave moving through body. really good liquid kids always are incorperating their whole bodys , thats why it looks so good.keep that in mind, and remember that dancing is like everything else in the world-the more you do it , the better your going to get.

-- Anonymous, October 21, 2000

i recetly started liquid dancin after a couple of seinor's at my school had there glow sticks and strind and just going off and they didnt even relly try they were just flowing to the music so i tryed it and at fist it was about the moves then i just kept going and it was just flowing tot he music even if u dont like that style perticuly it dosent matter but it helps and u can still just go and do it so keep trying to flow and ull get it too.

-- Anonymous, October 21, 2000

WELL THIS IS FOR ALL YOU BEGINERS OUT THERE THE BEST WAY TO LEARN HOW TO RAVE IS FIRST GET REALLY FUCKED UP THEN GO OUT AND GET A FEW OF THOSE GLOWING NECLECES THAT SNAP TOGETHER. UNSNAK THEM AND HOLD ONE END IN EACH HAND.(NOTE THIS IS A REALLY GOOD WAY TO GET GOOD AT THINGS LIKE THE ORB) JUST LIKE THE BASIC WAY MOVE ONE HAND AND CAUSE THE NECKLEC YOU OTHER HAND WILL FOLLOW THE OTHER ONE,TRY DIFFRENT MOVE AND COMBINATIONS. BUT THE #1 MOST IMPORTANT THING TO DO IS FEEL THE MUSIC AND IF YOU CANT DO THAT YOU BETTER GO TAKE SOME MORE E_BOMB I FIRST STARED RAVING WHEN I SAW A FRIEND OF MINE WHO IS A DJ AND WE WOULD ALWAYS GET FUCKED UP AND THEN HE WOULD BUST OUT FOR ME. THEN I WENT TO BOOTY QUAKE 2000 AND THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I EVER FELT THE MUSIC. IF YOU HAVE A HARD TIME FEELINGTHE MUSIC EITHERTAKE MORE DRUGS OR CHANGE THE SONG SOME BEATS ARE NOT MADE FOR SOME PEOPLE WELL I GOT LOTS MORE INFO THEN THAT SO DROPE ME A WORD... PEACE LOVE GOOD TIMES HIGH AND ROLLING IN THE SKY DReaMS

-- Anonymous, October 22, 2000

Wuzup my peeps! Hey I started raving about 6 months ago, my first rave was Our universe 2 (south Florida) Loved it so fu**en much, I poped 3 Euro's dat night, my first time lolz! Well even before the effect took place I was moving the glowsticks a lil, cuz I was hyper, though I was more interested in the girls than the glowsticks, heheh But then 30 mins into the rave wow The music started pumping, i felt every beat, every ryhme, every vibration, I loved it I started moving em glowsticks like crazy, ever since I learned how to liquid dance... hehe like that guy sayd you can get addicted to it, lolz Well i gotta run MAD PLUR! And when yall have a chance e-mail ma... Peace!

-- Anonymous, October 24, 2000

I havent been raving for long either, but raving is easy, just like the people above said, take off. Do whatever you think looks cool, there aint no wrong way to rave. Right now, all the beginners gotta worry bout is how to move your feet doing a rave, glowsticks are easy, but moving your feet and the glowsticks in sync is gonna be tuff, so just practice and practice and practice. Download a rave mp3 and just take off in your own room.

-- Anonymous, November 04, 2000

Yo, i never used to dance to ANYTHING cuz i felt all out of place and stupid doing it... then i rolled at a friends party and some kid put on some house... before i knew it i was bouncing and jumping like a retard... now i don't care if i look stupid dancing, rollin or not cuz i just don't feed into the negativity... just stay positive and chill with positive ppl... it'll all come in time... love and hugs...

-- Anonymous, November 05, 2000

Hey man there is no style the first thing you gotta learn is COORDINATION and with whatever hand you plan to use follow it with the other hand....i learned to rave kickass in like a week....start with figure 8 and spirals....then its just all your styles.... you could be just raving by yourself in a corner but you get practice from seeing ppl but dont Copy MAKE YOUR OWN!!! :) also its not just hands you gotta dance around too!!!! laterz!

-- Anonymous, November 09, 2000

OMFG!!!!!! I just started Raving and I'm having the fucking time of my life!!! First Rave I went to I did X for the first time and I was dancing like crazy!!! 2 different colored glowsticks really helped because it feels like your behind them and their moving on their own. If you don't feel comfortable moving around and jumping then just stand in place and move the glow sticks but kinda lean to the sides and get low now and then and it looks pretty tight!!! As you start getting more into it go wider with the glow sticks on just the loud beats and when your incredibly into it start leaning back like the guy in the matrix when he's dodging the bullets in slow-mo. People will freaking cheer you on if you can stay in that position and still move the glow sticks to the beat without falling over!!! Looks really awsome under strob lights!!!!!!! Try it by yourself

-- Anonymous, November 13, 2000

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW THE SECRET OF RAVE DANCING? THE NEXT TIME YOUR AT A PARTY WALK UP TO THE SPEAKERS PUT YOU HEAD INSIDE THE MOTHER FUCKER AND STAND THERE FOR 10 MIN ....FEEL THE BEAT ....GET THE BEAT IN YOU ...THEN WALK AWAY AND LET IT OUT...DRUGS WONT MAKE YOU BETTER,,JUST FUCK YOU UP MORE AND MAYBE MAKE YOU MORE EASY GOING,,BUT GO FOR THE BEAT ,STAY FOR THE BEAT , LEAVE WITH THE BEATS IN YOUR HEAD,,,,,,,,GO BEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!CUZ ONCE YOU GO BEAT YOU NEVER GO BACK!!!!! KEEP THE VIBE ALIVE!!!!!

-- Anonymous, November 15, 2000

I will have to agree with what most everyone has said before. You really have to feel the music. Feel the beat and let your hands do the talkin. You will pick it up kid. Put your hands together and play follow the leader. Go to your body;around the head and face, across your chest. Just watch a lot of people at raves and ask them to dance for you. Watch their moves to get a better idea. Don't copy them though, be creative. Try using white gloves in a blacklight/strobelight. I found that to help me at first. Peace, love, and unity!!!!Good Luck, Kid

-- Anonymous, November 15, 2000

Just bounce to the beat, and don't fling your arms around above your head. You're liable to knock someone out. If you want to learn all them cool moves, just go up to someone who's busting out and ask them to dance for you. Theyll be happy to show you since theyre more than likely on E and when youre on E everyone is your friend. Copy their basic style then add stuff of your own.

-- Anonymous, November 17, 2000

If you want to learn how to dance here's a start. Stand off to the side of the dance floor or someplace where people aren't going to slam into you. Bounce up and down to the beat, (on your toes, your feet shouldn't leave the floor) hold your hands out in front of you, then move your right hand in circles to the beat (try to imagine a DJ spinning a record) and bob your left hand slighty to the beat. try checking your head a bit too (small side to side motions to the beat)

the key is STAY TO THE BEAT and start simple. Try anything too complex right off the bat and you WILL lose balance and fall over, collide with someone, etc.

Peace

-- Anonymous, November 17, 2000

alright, most importantly..DO NOT TRY TO DANCE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE dont think of it like everyone is watching you dance because, probably no one is because they are too into what theyre dancing. my first rave: i got there and decided to roll for the first time, i was walking around and i wanted to dance but didnt want to look like a fool, then all of a sudden supa mc tc izlam shouts something about a soulslinger and i couldnt stop dancing for the rest of the night, i filled my pockets with flyers and went to every one that i could. every one i went to after that i was makin stuff up on the dancefloor and watching others creativity. so in short, just be creative, have fun with it, feel the music, dont be a fool and poke someone in th eye with a glowstick. and smile. and be friendly. and dont bring your negative attitude with you either. thank you.

-- Anonymous, November 18, 2000

i'll send u tapes for free just ask.

-- Anonymous, December 18, 2000

I hit a rave club for the first time last month and my friends told me that i looked like a pure raver on the dancefloor. They said that because i already learned how to rave by practicing with a friend before i went. I entered the club and popped my first pill and the only pill i ever took and 40 min. later my heart began to race and all i here is a hot beat calling me onto the main dancefloor. The whole night all i did was feel incredible beats taking over me. my advice to u is to do the same as me. Go to the club wit a couple of friends, pop a pill, just bop your head to the beat and let it take u into a state of trance. Fall into the beat and let it take over u and it will happen. Dont pay attention to anyone else dancing or looking at u and anyway they probably wont be because theire maybe zoned out in theier own world, just pay attention to the beat. An easy basic step u should start wit is trying to move up n down wit your knees while u also move your arms back and forth. Make sure your whole body including your head is going to that beat. To make it simple, just fall into the beat. Rave your FUCKING ASS OFF. =0)

-- Anonymous, December 19, 2000

Fuck dope, Fuck glowsticks, fuck learning from vids or forums.

Just go out and dance. Thats how you learn.

-- Anonymous, December 19, 2000

last week was my first time popping pill in a rave and it felt so good i forgot that i couldnt dance, next thing i know im bouncing up and down to the beat.... i felt the music running through my body

-- Anonymous, December 20, 2000

I don't know what you think raving is, but i think you have it all wrong. It's not about the rolls, the tabs, or anything else. It's all about the music. I'll admit it, i roll my ass off. But i can still dance pretty good sober and have just as much fun. And all you little "candy ravers" who think that battling, beans, and showing off are just druggies with big pants on. STOP FUCKING UP OUR WORLD! It's alot of you who bring negative attention to the rave scene. I'm sure there are alot of you who are true ravers, who do it for the music and not the drugs, and to those of you i apoligize. This is not addressed to you. And to whoever's web site this is. You don't need anyone to teach you how to dance, just go to the club and move like you wanna, ya never know....you might be better than all of us. you just don't know it yet.......

-- Anonymous, December 21, 2000

my 2 cents:

As said before, the only way to learn to dance is practice. There is no shame in asking someone will good dance skills to give you a few tips, though. Everyone at these parties (or raves) are there to have fun and be friendly. If they are there for other reasons, they really don't belong.

I've been going to parties for only about 2 years now and they have definitly gotten worse. There are more cops, more drugs (more bad drugs that will do serious damage, too), and more people causing trouble. DON'T GET ME WRONG, the scene is still good and still tons of fun.

As far as drugs go, they are bad (mm-kay). Be careful!!!! I can't stress that enough. There is some really bad stuff out there (that can kill you) that people are pawning off as ecstacy. You do not need drugs to dance, but if you decide to do them, get them from someone you trust. Also, you might want to check your pills to see what's in them. www.dancesafe.org is my favorite place to do that.

Anyway, go, have fun, dance like a fool...no one cares as long as you're having fun!!

-- Anonymous, December 21, 2000

Ok, the person who said it before is right, because you guys here have it all wrong. Not to toot my own horn, but everytime I rave(I'm 18, been raving for about 6 months), at least three people come up to me and ask me to dance in front of their face, and I have a crowd once a night. After all this bragging(which was VERY intentional) what is my point? I HAVE NEVER ROLLED ONCE IN MY WHOLE ENTIRE LIFE! You don't need any type of drugs to make you dance any better, you just need to practice. Don't let people tell you that you need to take E to make you dance better, it's not true, it is people like them that make my parents get scared and worried when I go to these raves.

Anyway, now that I'm done ranting ... get some good techno/rave songs (I suggest anything by sasha) put it on repeat, and just go with it. It might take a while, but you'll get it eventually. Just like anything else, it also helps to go to actual raves or clubs and watch people. But don't copy their moves! Go with the basic pattern(mines a figure 8) and just add some cool shit in. Move your hands around. When you feel comfortable doing all that stuff, start jumping around like a rabbit with his ass on fire and voila, you're golden.

In addition to that, if you're a bad dancer, who gives a shit?! People at these parties are not there to critique your dancing, they're there to have fun. So get crazy, act wild, and enjoy yourself.

PLUR!

-- Anonymous, December 25, 2000

To me there are no steps to dancing. You just listen to the music and express what you here. Just become the beat. Dancing at raves is all about individuality. Your not out there to impress anyone. Impress yourself with your own creativity. Me personally, Ive never seen to good dancers with the same style. Peace and keep learning.

Chris

-- Anonymous, December 25, 2000

altho i've been dancing/raving for about 5yrs now, sum of the best dancing sessions i've had r at home - especially with pills. of course nothing compares to club situation but @ home you're completely free to try anything. if u make dancing & music a way of life - dancing well at a club on the weekdends will come very naturally. it's all about confidence & rhythm, not pills...

-- Anonymous, December 25, 2000

Yo, ive been raving since Oct 99. Fav music is breakbeat trance and various trance spinoffs. My main style is a strange mix of liquid/breaks/house/break footwork, i also use a glowstick staff sometimes and i am ill with glowsticks on strings. I am while guy, 6'2", 260lbs (yes, im a fat guy who can break...no shit)

Geez, when i first started raving i was a terrible dancer, i knwo the feeling, my dance style when i started was like house without bouncing, but, as time when by, i just spent hours and hours practicing, and eventually, i became an exelent dancer. Just like evryone says, the more you try, the better you will get.

Anyway, the main way to start dancing good is to just get up and bounce around with the beat. Snap some glowsticks and just roll your hands as fast as you can, whipping one hand to the side evry now and then, and change directions suddenly when the music changes dramatically (dont change directions too often :P). Also, make sure to lean waaay to the sides and back and throw stuff in like slowly laying on yoru back and doing a breakdance get-up while spinning the glowsticks. Take these basic moves and just try and go apeshit and make stuff up. Oh, a good way to grip glowsticks is to hold them with your middle finger under it and yoru ring and index finger above it. Even if you suck, glowsticks still look decently cool.

PLUR

-- Anonymous, December 26, 2000

Just relax. All you need to do is have a good time, and if you need a crowd of people watching you to do that, then don't get into a scene that's at its best in a dark warehouse. Just bounce wildly in time to the music, or sway like you're about to pass out. No one will care as long as you are wearing a smile on your face. Beyond the usual bullshit disclaimer, dancing and music is what its all about. Listen to music that you like, and do something in time to it. It's totally fine to like other people's dancing, and ant to do it, and trying to copy other pople is a good first step. Just remember that no matter how hard you try, your dancing will never look the same as whoever you are trying to copy, but that's the beauty of dancing, the individuality. Oh and it'll probably take 4 months of sad flailing before you start to look cool; just remember, if anyone is watching your sad flailing, which is highly doubtful, and has an opinion on it, again highly doubtful, they are rolling hard and appreciating the fact that you are having a good time. Or maybe they think you look like a cartoon character. Whatever, just have fun and everyone will have a little more fun because of your presence.

-- Anonymous, December 26, 2000

Okay, I REALLY don't mean to brag but I'm a liquid kid and actually very good. Some of it involves mime and actually a pure liquid kid is with the white gloves and NO GLOWSTICKS! it's the flow in your hands and body. Yes, the basic movement is putting your hands toger and start the wave motion but eventualy it involves total body (especially balls of the feet and raising the knee along with some certain flow for added effects. get a hold of mr. wiggles for basic hand movements and an idea of the wave/flow effect but he's not a true liquid kid. More of a popper. Go in front of a mirror and practice, trust me, one day, for some reason, it all just feels right and suddenly, you flow. When you do it, you'll know what I mean. alot of us actually don't always keep the fingertips together but create a ball and throw it up, eat it, expand it, or make it into a hert and pull it from our chest. it's cool shit and once you start, it's all imagination and music. The music is what gives you tranceity(?) to your flow and you just ride the notes. Before you know it, you don't think about it anymore and it's all second nature. I'd show you...but it's damn hard to explain in words. You have to see it and try it....good luck and MAD PLUR!

-- Anonymous, December 26, 2000

liquid is me i am the bomb yo yo ...... okay im not but all isee here is ill composed self absorbed bread fylth bustin the quilt tryin to be a part of the rye in the catcher smashin the rapture... okay no no really i go to a few raves n shit yo i cant do that liquid shiot and if i did i would be the quikist kid poppin thelid down 8 times like the octosquid put in yer bid you win on me sweet like the bee produce so produce like me i am the key to the salt in the sea... outtie!

-- Anonymous, December 28, 2000

look u dun need to take dat shit...even tho i do but look all u gotta do is jus go to a party let da music sink into u den jus move, it will get to u dun worrie after dat watch ppl dun jocked dem jus get some ideas den make ur own shit up so all u do is pop pills(optional) listen to da music, feel da music, move ur body, learn...dats it o and practice and if u become a burn out not my fault im outs late

-- Anonymous, December 28, 2000

I have ben into the music for a while and not until recently have i been to a "good" club. At first i was watching everybody and was like "damn that shit looks fresh as hell" and had no idea how to go about doing it. Then i talked to my friend and he show'd me the basic figure 8 motion with your arms. I went and watched ppl my first couple of times and after that it is just like the snowball effect. Now i can use strings, dance liquid, and a couple of other things and let me tell you once you get over that fear of "oh my god, what if i look like a dumbass" its the best dancing you'll ever do. Just let the music infect you and GO ALL OUT!

-- Anonymous, December 29, 2000

no one can teach you how to dance thats just something you have to learn your self and for all u dorks that need glow sticks and shit like that you dont know how to dance its all about you looking good yourself i give props to all the peeps out there that can dance and look good with out any toyz or lights and shit!!

-- Anonymous, December 31, 2000

THAT IS TRUE IF YOU WANNA LEARN HOW TO RAVE YOU NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE PEOPLE THAT DO RAVE THE BEST THING TO DO IS JUST TO MOVE YOUR BODY TO THE BEET AND START TWIRLING YOUR GLOWSTIX OR OTHER TOYS TO THE MUSIC THAT THINKS IS BAD ASS. I LEARNED BY JUST LOOKING AT THE PEOPLE THAT DO RAVE AND I PAY ATTENTION TO THE MOVES THAT'S WHY I BECAME SO GOOD. LIKE FOR "I CAN'T STOP RAVEING"

-- Anonymous, January 01, 2001

yeah listen, i don't know liquid. i don't want to learn liquid. the way i dance is fine. it looks good, no one complains. no one will complain. just keep that in mind. whatever you think looks good is good. practice, and scope pplz.

-- Anonymous, January 03, 2001

I love it, I love it all. It's about the music,the people and the fact that being different is being celebrated. Individuality,is something you cannot learn, it's in you and only you! Everyone can learn to be the same and thats what makes raves so GREAT,no one is the same,(well at least not the majority. I have only been to a few raves but I have a blast, I know I don't move as well as some people, but hell its the shitt! PLUR! respect everyone.

-- Anonymous, January 03, 2001

If you want to learn how to dance, go to mass parties, check out everyone'z style...incorporate your own and BAM!!!! you've got groove..not that hard. Personally i love the glovez and ninja glowstix. w00p Free your mind. Free your soul. Free it and dance.

-- Anonymous, January 04, 2001

hey wusssup ive been raving for bout 2 years now i love liquid dancing.. when i first saw it i knew thats what i was gonna learn first well i dont consider swinging a glowstick in circles "liquid" what i do is i wear a pair of white gloves and point my hands at each other and do basic waves back and forth when u get better. new moves come natually, and one day everyting just seems to flow all u gotta do is practice and dont be scaerd to ask someone to help ya out at a rave payce

-- Anonymous, January 05, 2001

I have only been into rave the past 6 months and cant dance for shit either, but I have learnt not to care. As most other people have said on this page, you just have to get out there and listen to the music. E's or no e's it doesnt make any difference, except that you might not care so much about what people are thinking on an e. I think I live in the shittest city in the world for raves so its real hard to get into the scene and especially know how to dance to it. Just do it hey, fuck everyone else, if they dont like it then they can go somewhere else. Trust me I come from a fucking hell bogan (heavy metal, all black, all rock etc) area and all my friends give me shit, but you get over it.

-- Anonymous, January 07, 2001

If ya wanna learn how to rave just go with the flow...u know..the beat of the music. just make your body flow with the music. and add some creativity and originality. K PeAcE OuT foo!

-- Anonymous, January 07, 2001

2 all the raverz out there PLUR =) jus had 2 get that out first... liquid is hella addicting OMG ey... i do that shit everywhere =/ home, work, skoo, everywhere.... mai homiez are like the hell is ur problem but itz pretty ez 2 do.. jus got 2 get the flow.... once u have that then ur pretty much set... and jus work with it like bust trix... eg. round ur head, butterfly, so many thingz u can do.... bustin liquid wit glow stix is pretty tite but the best shit is with white gloves and a photon light inside... jus go 2 a rave sober and learn stuff ull b surprized wut pple come up with when there rollin hehe.... well thats it for me =) hope 2 c all of u at the up comin partiez.... for all u cali raverz,,, HOW SWEET IT IS!!!!! 01 =) PLUR!!!!

-- Anonymous, January 08, 2001

There's no videos out there that I know of, so just go to a rave and fucking DO IT! Practice the ol' Liquid flow, watch others, and put it together! I learned that by doing acid and raving, it's very easy to get good fast, go figure. But I don't touch that shit any more.

-- Anonymous, January 08, 2001

I find that I don't need anything to help me rave. Probably the only thing I need is a red bull to keep me going but usually I just mentally check out to the music. Thats why they call it trance. I listen to the music and just let go. As for glowsticks I just do what the fuck I want to do. Everyone's style is different and I just so happen to pattern my style after marching band Drum Majors with batons. I mimic their circular patterns and flourishes. I also used to train to be one for my marching band but I trained too late for tryouts. Anyways just do what you want and just release yourself to the music. I like trance and electronic music becuz it's an alternative to all the pop crap that's going around. Plus I love the good positive vibe. It is possible to trip out to the music without resorting to drugs. I know it sounds weird but just open and release your mind to the music.

-- Anonymous, January 13, 2001

When you can feel the music rushing through your vains and it looks like majik. That's dancing. You'll find your groove.

-- Anonymous, January 14, 2001

WELL RAVING IS VERY SIMPLE LIKE DOING LIQUID JUST PUT BOTH OF YOUR FRINGER TIPS TOGETHER AND DO A WAVE LIKE MOTION AND THERE U GOT LIQUID WELL MY POINT IS THAT RAVING ALL U DO IS JUST MOVE THOSE GLOWSTIX OR MICRO LIGHTS WATEVER YOU HAVE AROUND WITH THE BEATS AND A FACT IS RAVING IS MUCH BETTER WITH PILLZ.

-- Anonymous, January 16, 2001

The first time I ever saw a person Rave was my good friend at my house when my parents were away. He started to rave in front of me and I thought it was awesome. I couldnt get the hang of it so what I did to loosen up was took some shots and Rolled a blunt. That helped loosen me up a lot. I started to get the hang of it but not quite like him. I went to some clubs and watched other people. One month later I was better than him. Now in college girls want me to do it for them all the time. To really get the hang of it is to sit down and listen to a lot of house. NOT TECHNO. House will get the move goin in ur mind. Get up and grab some glowsticks and rave in front of a mirror with the lights out. U will see urslef and learn ur own moves. Try closing ur eyes and feel the music. Who cares what u look like - everyone has his/her own style. Enjoy

-- Anonymous, January 16, 2001

Hey... all the kids out there sayin that you can't glowstick unless you are rolling, are totally wrong. They are the ones that are making raves have a bad name. You can go to a party totally sober and still have an awesome time, and glowstick yer butt off. There really isn't any one right way to do it, just do whatever the music makes ya. And that's the music, not the drugs.

-- Anonymous, January 20, 2001

me n my friends dont goto raves that often but we learned fast (liquid)

that shit is addictive man....things about drugs ....u can have fun wihtout them!!! they just make it more intresting sometimes...depending on ur mood...any the way i learned how to liquid was that we took a fat ass roll of tape and taped our figure tips together and started to do that liquid thingy (or tried) once we thought we didnt need the tape no more.....we busted out some beats and danced(liquid) glowsticks and we learned to liquid in 10 minutes!

glowstick is just doing anything...feel the beats and GO!

-- Anonymous, January 20, 2001

All you do i feel the music don't look in the mirror, don't think of shit... jus listen, Let the music flow threw you and into your hands, and do whatever your body tells you to do at the beat. Its best to Liquid rave with your eyes closed cuz you block everything out and feel the music. But first start in the dark wit yur glowsticks while lookin at a mirror. Practice makes perfect my friend.

-- Anonymous, January 21, 2001

The best way to learn how to dance liquid is by going to raves. Watch the dj, listen to the music, feel the music. Let the dj be your guide. When u feel the beats the dj is spinning you'll know liquid. I learned after raving for 3 months. I had tried many times. It was the last day of a 3 day party, and wham, it just hit. There were only 6 ppl left dancing on that last day. Me being one of them. I was so proud I was one of the last left standing, that was when the music just took over. That's how I started liquid. PEACE AND LOVE

-- Anonymous, January 21, 2001

PLUR PLUR PLUR... What does this mean to the people who have sent in there answers? I do not think you do know what PLUR means. I feel you use this word because its cool or its the " rave " thing to say. I'm not trying to knock anyone so please beleive me when I say your all the best fucking thing that has happened to me in a long time. What I think you guys/gals wanted to say is....THERE IS NO PROPER WAY TO DANCE. JUST BE YOURSELF MAN AND GROOVE. Your beautiful and you know better to judge. Keep grooving!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, January 22, 2001

I admit I am new to the rave scene man all of it the music the lights the people just the rave it self will make you trip balls,You don't need E to rave all though it's an experiance in it self,Well I my self are trying to learn liquid dancing,I see the others do it and I am like I have to learn how to do that...I just do what the others say to do If you guys have n-e tips for me please drop me a line...well laterz and happy raving. Chris Grindele

-- Anonymous, January 24, 2001

All the insta ravers out there if dancing is somthing you have to do just fucking do it. I'm sick of all the people out there putting labels on everthing at parties like P.L.U.R. fuck P.L.U.R. what is it... yeah peace. Thats just some fucked up kid on a bunch of pills getting all emotional at a party. And whats with all the candy kid bull shit yeah you go to parties, doesnt mean you have to trade braclets and look like an ass. All you mother fuckers that wear Ecko I see kids at there second,third party wearing all ecko sorry kid ecko aint the raver brand. Phat pants to glow sticks fuck all that noise. I dont hate any of these things it just pisses me off the people are associating these thing with "raves". Raves were a place to have fun and dance and now its all fucking twisted. Ohh take pills youll dance way better fuck that. Grab a pair of glow sticks...yeah and stick them up your ass. If you wanna dance practice, it comes from within you. I don't know one kid that dances the same( unless it that stupid raver hop). Don't stero type the scene like that, just keep it real be yourself. Theres always stuck up party kidz shit all my friends are. Fuck them. Go to parties when the dj's are good it's easier to dance to there music they don't train wreck all the time. Yeah i'm a Bad Ass dancer and fuck the white gloves those are for the wanna be's. Try adding some pop n lock with a little bit of breaking to your steps. And don't tell people how long you been going it makes you sound pathetic. Like I said just keep it real thats the only way to be. (If you really wanna learn liquid try "k")

-- Anonymous, January 26, 2001

WHATS A RAVE? WHATS IT MEAN WHEN IM RAVING? WHATS A RAVER? U GUYS SUCK

-- Anonymous, January 28, 2001

Whats a rave? Please e-mail me with any information you have, these raves sound very fun and exciting. I can tap dance do people tap dance at raves. also what is a pill? Is it a type of drug, because I have never did any weed and maybe I could try this weed thing at a rave. Thanks for any information you can give me (this would really make my day,week,year lol just kidding) well have fun raving guys!!!

-- Anonymous, January 28, 2001

well floyd. raves are a fun place where there are a lot of lights, loud techno beats, and accessive amounts of kids fucked up on the most common rave drug in the worls, xtc. pills is a drug called xtc which is a chemical cooked into pouder and pressed into a pill which contains large amounts of mdma. which gives you the "roll" you should rave. weed wont do it. get a pill. tap dance if you want. but liguid dancing is what you want to do when you are on xtc. the universal expression. love your self. find a friend to do this pill with you and find a nice spot on the floor and massage each other all night. you can learn how to dance next time, love ya. rick

-- Anonymous, January 31, 2001

Hey if u guys want to see something kind of funny i just found, check out http://famoustesticles.cjb.net

But anyways, i think what someone said WAAAY @ the top is true, once u start doing the hand motions, look in the mirror and it helps a lot... I have never been to a rave, but i love all electronic music, and i do my own little wanna be raver crap in my room. i met a friend taht showed me the liquid hand trick and i couoldnt do it for shit. After like 5 minutes of looking in the mirror, i got it down. DO IT Yeah baby Yeah

-- Anonymous, February 01, 2001

I hear what you're all saying and it's true that practice can be good but also learning for yourself is a great way too. Most times people won't tell you how you can learn. It's all about the MUSIC. Have a few drinks, roll some more, you'll feel it soon enough. The beat just won't let you stay still. It's catchy and you'll feel it. Then it's just sweet. The music is the main key. Experiment. Let your hands and feet do what they want to do to the music..The mirror helps too.

Peace, love, fuck some people, have fun and then do it all again!

-- Anonymous, February 03, 2001

glows sticks a so stoopid!!!!!!! They will not help you to dance in fact, neither will a drug!!!!!! The main this to practice

-- Anonymous, February 07, 2001

Well, this is what i did. I went to mad raves and watched people dance to different music. I tried to mimic all the differnet dance moves and eventually came up with some fucked up mix. Then to reinforce everthing i tried dancing while i was on E, Dust, and Nitrous. It was good practice because its much much harder when your on dust

Peace

-- Anonymous, February 08, 2001

I'm old..grew up in late 60's,early 70's. My 21 yr. old into techno and raves. I like the music alot. I watched him dance and liked it alot. Reading your responses makes me feel good about our future down here. I am going to a costume dance, wanted to do the rave thing (never been there, didn't know...okay...doo doo!) Have glo juggling balls, really beautiful. Loved acid, many, many trips but ultimately what ruined our momentum from flower children to hippies to freaks was the drugs. The kids pull out my old clothes to dress up as 'hippies'...and I say its a state of mind, summed up, "Come on, people now, smile on your brother"....Sounds like ya'll have the state of mind, the tolerance of each other, open acceptance...its a beautiful thing to read...thanks, ya'll.

-- Anonymous, February 10, 2001

i cant rave yet, but am trying to get the hang of it. Does anyone know were some videos on the net are so that i can look at how people do the basics and from there i can start learning. I have tryed listening to the beat although i think it just dosent come natrualy to me. I will keep trying though. Thanks guys for the tips

-- Anonymous, February 11, 2001

YO RAVERS! Are you really into this stuff? Kewl. Then it's all good... you don't need to learn from anyone, just do like what everyone above me said and dance, move to the music, and do whatever the hell you need to do to chill out. Drink a RED BULL + VODKA. That's good shit.. I don't do "E" ... but I'm an alright rave dancer.. of course people who've never done it before think I kick ass, but I know better... I say practice all the time.. of course not when people will look at you funny... and remember to think of how the glowsticks will look into your hands.. BUY 100 GLOWSTICKS if you really love the ART FORM.. and practise every weekend if you love it and want to create really beautiful movements.. course if you're just in it for fun.. there's absolutely nothing wrong with just moving to some good trance.. OAKENFOLD KICKS ASS.. I'm so inspired, I'm creating something on my personal web site EXPRESSING MY PERSONAL RAVE DANCE STYLE. It's not meant to be copied, or to "teach" anyone.. it's simply a place where I express how I dance (psst.. it's gonna involve flash). It'll be ready at the end of the semester.. so for those interested, stay tuned or send me an email (panda@gwu.edu) and I'll tell you where to see sneak peeks.

Thomas

-- Anonymous, February 11, 2001

I went thru alot of rave sites trying to find videos of the dancing, no luck. I'm too old to go to those clubs but the good thing about my situation is that most people my age don't know the differance. I asked my son if he knew about the figure eight move, he said no but he liked the description about a rabbit with his butt on fire.

-- Anonymous, February 11, 2001

i just started gettin into the rave scene and i think i found a new fun thing to do...i used to go out to clubs and stuff, and never really got into it..there was dancing, but i always felt like an ass dancin...i don't really do drugs either..but when i went to my first rave, i had a couple of drinks and watched people dance..i picked up scissor kicks and step hops pretty quickly..i still need practice..not too much into glowstix but i wouldn't mind learning basics.. bottom line is, i think raves are a place where people just feel free, let loose and have a bomb ass time...do whatever youwant adn have a good time neva rolled at a rave, but i'm sure it's pretty tight....alright ya'll peace..

-- Anonymous, February 12, 2001

when u go to a rave, dont fuckin think wat other people do...dats wat i did when i first went to some, i totaly felt the beat, but i was too scared and i never danced..now me and my friends get together and we are the spotlight of the dance. I just grab some glowsticks, egt out there and just have fun. i kno, peer pressure sucks, but after a while, tha trance mixes will make u just get down. Also dont be scared to ask people to freak with you, chances are, they wanna find someone too, so when u ask, they dont have to ask, and they are WILLING....remember feel the beat!!

-- Anonymous, February 13, 2001

Hey... I just started the Rave scene.. It kicks, aight... in order to dance.. screw the lessons.. all the people say one thing "Get up and move your ass to the beat." if some dumb f*ck wants to make fun of ya then beat their ass cuz they don't belong there. get some Glow sticks and do the figure eight or the butterfly.. if you don't know how.. ask someone there... they are all your friends at a rave.. so talk to em like normal.. right now i'm doin the "Glowstick Poi" shit. that's glowsticks on strings... kick ass.. keep on ravin.

-- Anonymous, February 13, 2001

IF ANYBODYS WILLIN' TO GIVE ME SOME HINTS ON HOW TO LIQUID I WOULD DEFINITELY BE GRATEFUL. EVEN A WEBSITE YOU ALL KNOW OF WOULD BE COOL. THANX AND KEEP RAVING. PLUR.

-- Anonymous, February 15, 2001

i think the best way to liquid dance is to practice at home by yourself, with a mirror or video camera.. make your hands play follow the leader. the wave motion with your hands in front of you moving up and down, fingers facing, is a good way to learn the flow.. then bring it out.. arms extended to the side(like an airplane) let the wave move from arm, to chest, to arm, and back.. after a while, incorporate your legs to make a really cool full body flow. you can move it in front or back, its phat. this is about the only thing i can do well, but i do it pretty damn well. another thing that i am working on is floating. use heel-toe-heel-toe, or if you have a skater-type shoe with a rigid sole, roll your feet around on the balls and tips of your toes. takes a lot of ankle strength, but done well, it is cooler than anything i have ever seen, incorporated with an arm wave... damn it looks like you ARE the ocean also.. MUSHROOMS HELP unbelievably. get basics, then eat shrooms, and maybe a pill or 2 (hippie flip) a lot of people mix acid and X but for yall that haven't tried it, try the hippie flip. visuals, body high, liquid feel, its all gravy sorry for the long post Ninja

-- Anonymous, February 16, 2001

When you can feel the music inside your head. When the lights are more brilliant than stars. When nothing seems to matter and you can feel yourself flow through the air. You just know... Its all lIqUiD!!! Love ya!!!-PLUR

-- Anonymous, February 16, 2001

Yo...alll u gotta do iz go with it man......just grab some glowsticks and do what everybody else is doin......for liquid i recomend joining your hands or body parts together when u practice and then slowly seperating them...also it helps a lot to practice in front of a mirro........YO THAZ IT.....ONE LOVE ALL MY NYC RAVERS........WE RIGHT BACK IN THIZ...........ONE LOVE JAMAICA FAM...PAYCE

-- Anonymous, February 17, 2001

I have been raving for about a year now. Dont do ecstacy! Thats all I can say. I swear that stuff turned me gay. I started to like it when guys touched me and it's been downhill since then. Or actually up hill if you catch my drift. I love men, what can i say. Anyways, ask poeple how to do the moves they just did, but dont copy, they love you, and i love them, a lot, so they are willing to do whatever you want, like learn how to liquid, and swallow theres, he he, j/k. yours truly. PLUR

-- Anonymous, February 20, 2001

Actually, it's more of a question, I didn't know where to post it. I'm having my sweet 16th b-day party (a corny as it sounds) on March 2nd. I wanna have a little mini Rave thing, cause a lot of my friends are ravers, and I want to get into it. I can't hire a DJ, but can anyone give me some tips and shit, cause I honestly don't know where to start..All I know..is glowsticks..

-- Anonymous, February 22, 2001

I've been looking all over for short clips of people dancing with glowsticks as well so I could learn some basics... the closest thing I found was this website http://www.livingart.com/raving/raving.htm which has lots of individual pics of raves. Sweet stuff.

I went to my first decent club last weekend (not a rave scene) where the played a bunch of dance stuff. I had a blast all night with the 6 other girls I was with. Then they played one track with a techno beat in it and I just started playing around as if I had glowsticks and the girls I was with were very close to going to this vending machine they had upstairs and buying me some glowsticks just so they could see me with them... and I've NEVER used them before. The girls probably would not believe me if they knew that b/c it looked like I knew what I was doing... all b/c I play oakenfold or sasha or some other good artist on my computer and just have fun. For about a year I've been more and more intersted in techno music and the more I listen to it, the more I want to dance and go to a club/rave and try myself out.

and for anyone that likes glow sticks/rings.. a good place to go is http://www.glowlites.com/ you can get 6" sticks for 86c but you have to buy in bulk... $31 for 36 sticks. But take a bunch with you to a club and pass them out/sell them and it'll be worth it.

-- Anonymous, February 25, 2001

Here's a VIDEO CLIP of glowstick movement. Just to let everyone know I'm semi-embarrassed about this video, cause it's not to trance or techno, but rather DIDO.. I don't know why.. haha. But I just wanted to share something I did for fun, esp. since there are a lot of people who wanna see something, good or not.... This clip will hopefully lead to better rave choreography. If anyone wants to see it, here's a short video I did of myself.

http://www.gwu.edu/~swirl/pers/footage/

Feel free to check it out and please don't be mean. :) I have a blooper in there, just to warn you..

I have a request. If anyone has clips, doesn't matter if it's good or not, MAKE IT PUBLIC... just for fun.. then we can all get new ideas and share stuff. :)

Ideas that I think are cool: -Some kind of hide and seek with your forearms and glowsticks -Messages through trails.. like glow sign language..

I don't wanna give anything away.. but I'm interested in things you guys come up with .. :) My stuff'll be public at the end of the semester.

PLUR.. post#2

-- Anonymous, February 26, 2001

Was sup guys!!! so u all want to learn how to dance with glowsticks and how to dance liquid huh?? well i have been raving for about 2 years and you all will love me in a couple of months. IF U WANT TO LEARN OR IMPROVE ON YOUR MOVES OR WATCH MY ART, VISIT WWW.DANCEGLOW.COM IT IS A WEBSITE THAT I CREATED THAT, YES WILL SHOW YOU HOW TO DANCE WITH GLOWSTICKS OR DANCE WITH PHOTON LIGHTS AT RAVES OR EVEN DANCING LIQUID. FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME WITH UPDATES.

SEE YEAH!!!!!

-- Anonymous, February 28, 2001

aiight, this is how it goes...i just started raving...not that great but searchin fo' new ideas...tha thing i think bout this shit is...find a high beat music not that zombie techno shit...don't get me wrong techno is tha shizzy...but to start off undastand that something that is high beat will make u get off ur ass and dance...try some d.j.laz shit..u know that song esa morena...will download that on napster...try some liquid...liquid=whateva the hell u want it to be, these otha people are koo they know wut they talkin about listen to them. one hand follow tha otha...in a wave motion...close ur eyes think what tha hell what look betta then what u have seen othas do...open ur eyes if u are doin something fly dont stop and practice that bout 5000000 times cauz the first time u do it i SWEAR u think u gonna fo get this shizzy tha next day well...afta that switch back to the off it techno and FEEL IT CLOSE UR EYES KEEP IT REAL LIKE THAT! do that peace out u got me email if u want -hasta-

-- Anonymous, March 02, 2001

man, avoiding the question? send me some fucking sites where i can watch people rave!!!!

-- Anonymous, March 03, 2001

PLUR Peaz, Luv, Uniti, rezpekt keep ravin *<;)

-- Anonymous, March 06, 2001

WaDdup raVrZ!!!!!well, if yer a glowsticker, 2 of the most important moves u gotta learn is da figure 8 and da liquid.first u gotta get some examplz.WeN u do,either make sumthin or copy ,but not exactlee to wat u saw,u gotta improve it, or do it anutha way.Never copy somonez exact movez.itz jess wrong....wen u practice u gotta have sumthin u can see yer hand movez wid.Fotonz r good, but i perfer glowstickz.U shuld rave to da beat anytime u rave.If yer outta beat,peepz will look down at yah, "wat da fuk?"will be in der head.if u really wanna learn quick u gotta get a phrend whoez already good.Have him teach u at nite,(datz wer u'll get yer juice)anutha wat to get hyp'd without dropp'n is 2 drink [2] red bullz before u go to a rave or party.da real way to learn is to go to parteez and ravez.Get yer homie 2 teach u,[onlee u so he can focus on u instead of other peepz]believe me,u follow dis den u'll get good quick,{got a apprentice who been rav'n 4 2 weekz and jess blasted peepz at a partee}if yah worried bout peepz think'n yer gay,tayke a look in da mirror and ask peepz who wuld tell u da truth,ayte den <({[pAyCe]})>

-- Anonymous, March 08, 2001

Rave dancing comes in varieties, but it all generally springs from break-dancing. From break-dancing comes liquid, an only half- structured form of dancing that allows for alot variations. From liquid comes freestyling, which in general is just a term for dancing anyway you want. The free in freestyling comes from the freedom of the mind and body to react almost instinctively from the heart, not by intention.

ATTENTION: Most DJs are caught up in themselves and do not feel the vibe. Its a fact. Even if they get out on the dance floor, its usually just for show or to soak up the admiration of ravers. Take Humpty.. SHUT THE FUCK UP AND DANCE. That is a damn horrible message on a phat beat. While it does suggest that folks dance, which is awesome, it does it in a way that forces people to be attentive to the cockhead DJ. "If you aren't dancing yet, what the fuck did you come for?" Well fuck you, Humpty. Attention-getting and admiration was back in highschool, so suck my dick till you feel the vibe tingling right off the hairs of my nuts. FUCK ALL DJS WHO ARENT DOWN FOR THE PEOPLE. Ill forcefeed my dick to you motherfuckers till you bleed. BTW, try getting head on ecstacy, in the stands, and dance your fucking balls off.

CHECK OUT RAVERPORN.NET

-- Anonymous, March 10, 2001

Raving is the shiet people. Like almost everyone here says, it's all about the music not the drugs. The drugs are bomb complements to the fucking raves but if you're not gonna dance and just lie down in the floors the whole night, what's the point in going. There are too many people just KOd in the dance floors nowadays. Anyway my question is this. I'm not a very good raver and am learning to do some moves with photons and glowstix. Should I use shoestrings or something else to swirl the stix around. And how do I know if the shiet I do is right for the scene? How do you guys know that you're movements are correct? Aight lates.

Oh and a bombwebsite to learn glowsticking is at sheet...forgot e- mail me at this address. It teaches you all these crazy moves for glowsticking.

-- Anonymous, March 11, 2001

Hiya! Hey, wanted to ask you freakz on the net if you knew of any kickass places to party in Portland. Moving there here shortly, and I'm big into the club scene. Lovin' trance. Was hoping someone could direct my attention someplace? :-) Hope so. Btw, they're right about the whole glowstick/liquid shit. Just gotta do it, man. I was real new, as the scene in Kansas (where I'm currently at.. for the next couple weeks , anyway. ;> ) isn't real resourceful. I'd go to clubs, I was the first to bring the glowstick movement there, hehe. And then me and some other kids just started meeting every weekend at the club and soon, the whole place was like a mini rave. :-) It was great. Nice to get the experience of a lifetime to places that aren't so fortunate. Anyhow, there you go. Keep ravin', just feel the music. Best advice I can give ya. And don't be afraid to watch people, and ask 'em how they do what they do. It's what I did. Lates!

--J.

-- Anonymous, March 14, 2001

If you wanna see clips of liquid dancing check this out *************** ************* ********** ******* www.crobarthenightclub.com

click on "clubs" and download some .mov files!

-- Anonymous, March 17, 2001

that address dosent work for me, n e 1 else?

-- Anonymous, March 19, 2001

this website address (www.crobarthenightclub.com) doesnt work 4 me?????

-- Anonymous, March 19, 2001

Hi ya all! Thats right this site www.crobarthenightclub.com doesnt work!!! About Liquid - I learned by myself when i took ecstasy first time,thats right feel the music and do your moves,try to look on your Glow sticks and try "paint" in the air some pictures,lines,waves - use your imagination.I never been in the club without -=E=-.And when u raving without it u geting tired too fast,so use ecstasy!(1 PILL IN THE MOUNTH)

PLEASE JUST CHECK THIS SITE BEFORE U GOING TO USE -=E=- : ********************************************************************** *********************HTTP://ECSTASY.ORG******************************* ********************************************************************** ITS VERY HELPFULL I SUGEST IT TO EVERYONE.

OK GUYS MAIL ME IF U GOT QUASTIONS - PIECE-

-- Anonymous, March 19, 2001

hey everyone...well my boyfriend and all our friends are ravers and i really wanna go to a rave with them but i dont wanna make an ass outta myself in front of them...i no its all about the music, i can "feel the beat" when i listen2 it, i love tha music but im so uncoordinated. im undecided on whether or not to take extasy...isnt there any way someone can just learn how to liquid?? id like2 see sum video clips too... ThAnX GuYs...PLUR! hehe

-- Anonymous, March 22, 2001

I posted the original message back in 1999 and I have received a lot of responses on "how to rave" and I appreciate all your replies guys and fine females, but nothing about the videos just like FaNTaSy1216@bolt.com is now asking.............. what d@ F#cK!! heheh ehehe heh ehhe

Albert

-- Anonymous, March 22, 2001

http://www.hkraverworld.com/flashindex.htm it is chinese web site though just click "video time" under that page. I don't know if that's what u want. PLUR !!

-- Anonymous, March 29, 2001

poser.

-- Anonymous, April 01, 2001

Ok, Let me explain something to you. I read your question, and have been reading the responses to it, so I am going to try and better explain. Everyone keeps telling you to just go for it, and there right. The reason everyone is telling you to try Extasy (hippie flip, or rollin) and shrooms is because it ups your senses. Meaning that when you roll on Ex, then you can feel the beat vibrate in your entire body. once you feel the beat, then it should be no problem to dance. Dont listen to the words, listen to the beat. Its mainly upper body, try shit with your hands. The reason everyone says glow sticks, is because it makes a fucking awesome light show once your hands are fast enough. Anymore questions e-mail me.

-- Anonymous, April 03, 2001

Yep i've started clubbing not long ago, and dude trust me what all these people have been saying is COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSHIT. Do not listen to them! ....... hahahahahaha nah j/k, these people are right, you gotta feel the beat in you, just listen to heaps of techno like "operation blade", "amokk", etc... and u just feel the beat all the time in you everywhere, at school, home, exams, etc... and then when ur on the floor just move it, shake it, like there's no tomorrow. i dunno liquid shit but i'm gonna do that kind stuff soon. i just basically move my hands back and forward, up and down, side ways, etc.. in patterns. Trust me, the best way to test a new move. Go to church, in the middle of the preaching go in front of all the people and do your new move. If they have these horrible *gasps* or whatever, trust me it's a good move alright. The dumbest moves you see yourself doing in the mirror just rock at raves, everyone cheers you on. And don't take e or shit like that man it's all useless, i dont' smoke or take e, but i know what i'm doing, and it's hella good. cheers cya later

-- Anonymous, April 12, 2001

RAVING IS FOR RAVERS NOT BREAKERS OR PEOPLE THAT LISTEN TO THAT RAP CRAP

-- Anonymous, April 12, 2001

it's easier doing liquid without glowstix then with glowstix.

-- Anonymous, April 13, 2001

Just a couple things to add. I've been playing with lights for about 3 years now, and I'd say im still learning to this day. The reason why is I practice every chance I get. Ill start raving out in my car at red lights, in record stores, hell, I once started raving out in the middle of s skecher's shoe store (got a number that way too.) When I go out to a party or a club or an event, I dont stop dancing till the music stops. Your arms and legs should ache the next day after you go out clubbin. Beyond that, watch, learn, ask. If the people you'r around aren't all about PLUR, you dont need to be around them. Also, don't try to be 'good.' Just be you. See ya in CFL yall.

-- Anonymous, April 14, 2001

"take your pill and dance?"

what the hell kind of answer is that? you don't have to take a pill to dance. why would you tell a new dancer that you do? shouldn't we encourage the love of music and dancing, rather than drugs? here's my advice:

go here: http://www.shaddupanddance.com and watch the multimedia videos. try glowsticking to start, then try house stepping, then liquid. liquid is hard so don't get frustrated.

and most importantly, don't let anyone tell you that you need to take ecstacy to dance or have fun. go for the music.

-- Anonymous, April 14, 2001

See, i don't get all this shit about "you have to drop a few pills to be able to dance." I've been dancing for like 2 years, and every time I go to a party I feel the music, I get really into it, and I don't NEED drugs to compliment that. But like everyone else is saying, FEEL the music, and become one with it, That's what it's all about. Whether it's a constant house Kick, or a totally flowing Trance breakdown, just get into it.

-- Anonymous, April 15, 2001

Your a bunch of phony wannabes. True ravers don't rave at scenes anymore, because of you "ravers" that just take X and "move" to the music. Raving is a stand a mind, but society once again spoils true raving.

-- Anonymous, April 16, 2001

Now for all you RAVERS that go to the "PARTY'S" for the drugs is what giving the rave scene a bad name!!!! It's all about the music!!! The drugs are just a plus. Think about ANY ONE CAN DO DRUGS!!!! Only the real people can enjoy the music with out the drugs, Dancing is an extention of your soul, your soul is not whole when your on X, or any other drugs, Think about it when I'm DJing a party, Rave, House party, Its all about the music, Think about it next time your at a Rave, Try closing your eyes and lisen to the music before you pop that pill, FOR WITHOUT THE MUSIC THERE WOULDN'T BE A RAVE!!!!!

T_DUB any peep's out their want to chat email me!!!!! NEW CD COMING OUT THIS FRIDAY

t_dub68@hotmail.com

-- Anonymous, April 18, 2001

There are to many ways of dancing "rave" it all depends on your personal style if your into poping u should use photons and white gloves or your into the strings u should use glowsticks to begin wid but if u wanna do the club thing this is wut u gotta do(fells incredably gay the 1st few time untill u get it) basicly all u gotta do is put your left foot in front of your right having your right leg straight down then switch there positions never haveing anything go behiend u after u can do that let your back flow with it then put your hands into your dacing to give your self style after you can do these fluidly put spins ect into your moves and use a visor to dip

-- Anonymous, April 28, 2001

HeY KidZ...ok heres the deal, everyone in here has told you to be yourself and make it up, that is really good, do that, but first you do need to learn some basics. Go to www.homeofpoi.com and they will help you get your dancing life off the ground. Trus me this site helps, i started from watching their beginers moves section and I've been to ALOT of parties. Learn the basics, then being yourself will become that much easier, but don't give up, and don't forget to make sure your REALLY FUCKED UP!!!!

-- Anonymous, April 29, 2001

MY ONLY ADVICE FOR BEGINNING RAVERS IS TO BE YOURSELF AND WHATEVER DANCING YOU DO DO WILL BE UNIQUE AND YOUR OWN STYLE. IT SEEMS THAT NOWADAYS EVERY ONE IS SO COUGHTUP IN TRYING TO PROJECT AN IMAGE OF SOMEONE ELSE THAT THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THEY ARE. SO IN SHORT MUNCH PILLS, MANY PILLS AND HAVE THE TIME OF YOUR LIFE CHEERS

-- Anonymous, April 29, 2001

If you want to dance, you have to ask yourself what that means to you and what you want out of it.

If you want to look like "those cool kids" you'll end up being behind the times and a clone besides, always catching up.

BUT if you just want to dance, then go out there and get stupid. Don't try to dance like anyone else because they are doing what their body does best, not yours. You will find what YOU can do best, and it will be something probably only you can do.

Close your eyes and just start moving. STAY OFF THE FUCKING DOPE or you will look retarded. The power and energy of youth can't really be emulated or contained in a pill anyway. After a while you will forget that you can't dance, and find out that you can fly. You're rockin. You'll feel awesome and wonder why the DJ quit his set so soon or why the sun came up and it only feels like three...

-- Anonymous, May 01, 2001

man oh man !! tHe things I see on this page..All I have to say is mad love to all my true/fake/new/old/beginner/oldhead ravers..phuck the hate if u show me love then you got it goin on I dont care if this is the first time you ever hear the word "raver" if you cool then do your damn thing and never let anyone stand in your way and if they do get em out of your way.....mad love to my jungle massive crew....ALl them jungle heads...thank god for jungle huh?? Dont you just love it when your at a party and your dancin your ass off and that one phat ass beat comes on and you look at the person next to you and that person's eyes just tell you "its time to go to work"....mad love to the scene...still keepin me around....one nation people......

-- Anonymous, May 03, 2001

Tell me the steps on how to do the dance.

P.S.=some of my friends are trying to teach me I just don't understand

-- Anonymous, May 07, 2001

LOOK IM A RAVER FROM HOUSTON I USE TO ROLL INTILL I RELIZED THATS FOR THE WEAK HEARTED IF U WANNA LEARN TO DANCE ASK SOME ONE AND PRACTICE I DO LIQUAD AND HOUSE KIKS WALKING TO CLASSES AT SCHOOL I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT THE TEACHERS OR KIDS SAY U GOTTA GET UR OWN STYLE AND WORK ON IT WACTH THE BREAKERS ARE BETTER YET I BELIVE THE SPELLING IS KAPPAWETA ITS A BRIZAILIAN FORM OF BREAKDANCEING WITH MARITAL ARTS ITS A REALLY BAD AZZ LOOKING STYLE IF U PLAY TEKKEN ITS LIKE HOW EDDIE FIGHTS AND IF DONE RIGHT WILL LOOK VERY BAD AZZ. JUST DO WHAT U THINK IS COOL THATS ALL THAT MATTERS U GO TO RAVES TO BE FREE AND DANCE HOW EVER U WANT TO ACCOMPHLISH THOSE GOALS IS UR BIZZNESS.

HELLA PLUR, Captn Crunch

-- Anonymous, May 12, 2001

I just wanted to learn some moves and mixed it up with some.

-- Anonymous, May 14, 2001

I have a few questions about raving..it sounds tite as fuck. Some of my friends have busted out with sum liquid with glowsticks and shit but i havent really tried it myself. It seems like theres no website devoted to raving while there are hundreds of people replying to "how do i rave"..if it's so tite whats the deal?

I listen to all music-ya rap included-but im down with the scene. basically i respect all beats. Do you have to be 18 to get into raves? I'm 15 which sux but i've tripped once and rolled a few times so i'm lookin forward to raving-i've been to a bunch of sca and punk concerts but i dont really think theyre as tite as raving sounds. If sumone could hook me up with some songs to download that would be really straight too.

thx a bunch..sorry bout the long ass post ~killa b

-- Anonymous, May 14, 2001

Yep~~Me from Singapore...well,everyone here(in singapore) doesn't know what the hell is RAVE.well,once I saw this American guy dancin wif glowsticks.I guess he was doin wat u ppl call Liquid.I din't know wat type of dance that is,but I have been doin my form of rave dance.His fren stared at me,wide-eyed coz he can't even do it.Well,I guees I mix how I liked my dance wif everything I see.That will make a splendid concoction.I didn't even have a name fer my dance...Until this chick asked me,"U'have been goin to a lot of rave parties?".She 's not a local coz Singapore doesn't hav any rave parties & such..Well,so,the best tip is....mix every form of dance wif yer personal one...It helps.... ;]

-- Anonymous, May 16, 2001

Let the light follow each other. Trace, make traces of lights. doesn't matter how it is done. And also don't go too fast or too slow. If you are right handed, I think it is easier if right hand follows.

-- Anonymous, May 21, 2001

Theres nothing wrong with glow sticks at all!!!!! Whats with all these haters. Flowing with glow sticks is just another way to set the mood right and to have fun its not about people critizing others, so what if you dont use glows. Like I say if you dont like it dont do it but theres no need say sh*t about it. Including all the kandy kids and beginners and the kids that are on whateva. Its just for fun so chill.

-- Anonymous, May 23, 2001

What's up with this hatin' on hip hop?! Liquid came from break dancing which is our culture. so kill that. lol anyway much love to y'all and keep tha peace.

-- Anonymous, May 24, 2001

Hey whas up to whoever iz reading this aight.

I think anyone can rave all it iz is the way ur mind thinks just be kreative in any ways.I make shapes and i'm still trying liquid but if u take some pills or acid or shrooms u'll trip even better (lol) trust me laters

Hit me back aight"Ö"

-- Anonymous, May 24, 2001

Its fun, I like to do it, im good at it, it makes me happy

-- Anonymous, May 27, 2001

it doesn't really matter what you do as long as you're into it and look confident - have a good time with it - if you think you look stupid chances are you DO look stupid only because you're holding back and you look all stiff and out of place - just let the shit flow

if there are any PA heads here hit me up and let me know what parties you're going to! - snydez

-- Anonymous, May 29, 2001

Hey guys.. Rav'n sure is a blast! Does anyone know if there is a forum for Raver's?

-- Anonymous, May 31, 2001

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RAVE ON!!!

-- Anonymous, May 31, 2001

What up man, everyone person in here that says you just need to feel the music is exactly right. Whenever you find the right beat that just seems to flow through you, just get up and start doing it. That seems to be the only way i learned how to do it. Lately i've been chillin with some guys that are just insane when it comes to liquid and extensions(strings)!!! So just let the music flow and everything will just come to you. Good luck, maybe i'll see ya at a rave

-- Anonymous, May 31, 2001

So you wanna learn but afraid of look'n like a FOOL huh, well just remember that all those sik-ass ravers out there around the globe started out like you. Once the beat hits your taste buds there's no turning back...rave on- rave on...

-- Anonymous, June 01, 2001

First of all, raving is much better when you're not doing drugs. I respect fellow ravers who don't do drugs, and can beat out most of the people who DO.

Anyway, the bottem line is don't let what other people think get you down. They can't dance and you can, they're just jealous. Have fun!

-- Anonymous, June 01, 2001

HEY RAVER JUSS FUCKEN DO ANYTHING IF U WANT U JUSSS HAVING FUN CUZ ALRIGHT LATER

-- Anonymous, June 01, 2001

Just go wit da beat... if you dunno then just dace and act crazy! he- he-he

-- Anonymous, June 01, 2001

alright try the figure 8 first. When you get better try the figure 8 with string.(when wiped by string it hurts) Just do some shit like what the other peeps sayed. i made my own shit and my frineds says it looks good. One of the best song for it is I CANT STOP RAVING. i even made x with the glow stick useing string. its tight.

-- Anonymous, June 01, 2001

just wanna say that http://www.shaddupanddance.com/ is da bomb and i am actually learning cool shit from it... btw anyone out there knows any great sites for glowstix?

-- Anonymous, June 02, 2001

wasaabi yo! what everyone seems to be saying so far is: 1) don't copy 2) learn from experienced liquid dancers and creat your own style 3) listen to the beat, and 4) u don't need drugs , and so on... having checked out most of the shit ya'll were advising to this kid, by far the best place was http://www.shaddupanddance.com... check it out and PLUR...

-- Anonymous, June 02, 2001

Just curious if anyone has tried the new Rav'n photon lights and which one is better the strobe or ribbon effect. I wanna get some this week to beat everyone to the punch, but haven't seen either in person. Any thoughts would be appreciated....

-- Anonymous, June 03, 2001

i think the photon light is cool... and kinda interactive cuz u could do like lighting up others' shirt etc etc kinda effect... and like swallowing and stuffs... hehe

-- Anonymous, June 03, 2001

my lil bro can move hiz handz like a wave... but instead i'm like hard boned and cant move my handz like dat.... i even beg him to teach me!

i'm so desperate.... as u c i juz saw friendz ravin and i wanna learn... dey wun teach me.... and i'm juz a beginner... i understand u do ur own move..... but i wanna get da hang of it first..... iz dere any beginner's tip dat i can practice on .... b4 i make my own movez and rave like other pplz.....

danK u for u time..... N rave rave rave! (itz too hot to stop!) plz help me!!!!

and i'm very shy to express myself i juz wanna practice until i'm good so i wun b shy to show it

i kno i'm suppose to b answerin albert's question... but i dunno myself and i need help... feel free to email me w/ ideaz and tipz.... dank u all u all have been kOo

-- Anonymous, June 04, 2001

Yo, all these people talking about how you have to be rollin(doin e or other drugs) to dance are stupid. Raving isn't about drugs, it's about the music, the love, the peace. If you want to learn to liquid, dance like no ones watching, love like you've never loved before. First, try it by putting your hands together and getting them to follow each other symmetrically...when one of your hands goes down bring the other one up. After you've mastered that, try keeping them about half an inch from each other and like magnets, have them play follow the leader. It's easiest if your hands are smooth or you are wearing thin gloves. After that, if you want your whole body to liquid you have to have your feet and legs follow your hand movements. Liquiding is quite addicting, I do it 24-7 walkin down the street and constantly have trance music goin through my soul. Anywayz, I'm out! Spread the love. PLUR!

Andi

-- Anonymous, June 06, 2001

you silly americans you ain't got a fuckin clue bout raving init its a fuckin uk thing init. you can't fuckin learn how to "rave dance" you nobends .

leave it to the real ravers in the uk init

-- Anonymous, June 06, 2001

If u wanna learn how to rave, just teach urself! Get a good beat goin and Rave til' u cant to more! Hell, i pratice everyday in the mirror to c what i can do, and i try to improve. Ive been doin it bout everyday for bout 2 years, and im an expert now. There r no real "moves" when it comes to ravin, u just move to the beat, but make sure the beat moves to u too. Germany is were i learned it from. But it seems more popular in Asia! This is to all my Pinoy's in Asia. N my Pinays in the USA! but it dont matter where it came from, cuz Raving is world wide now!! and i introduce it to ppl everyday. N glow sticks r cool to use too. for the ppl who dont know how to use glow sticks, just hold them between ur fingers, or hold it w/ ur thumb.

-- Anonymous, June 07, 2001

Raving is as easy as you want it to be. I've only been 5 or 6 times, and each time i incorperate more into the routine. All the asian folks i go with and the others at the clubs i goto sit there in amazment at my 6 and a half foot ass out there with glowsticks. And if you have big hands try to use 4 glowsticks insted of just 2, the result will make it feel like u rollin even if u aint. Keep lose and open to the music is all that you have to know. Have fun, Look for me in the ATLANTA scene, it not hard to find me :) Peace Out

-- Anonymous, June 07, 2001

Um.. i dunno.. i jsut am really nervous about my first rave i am goiong to in melboourne...

Wow.. i can't wait...

Melting

Psionic-Boi

-- Anonymous, June 08, 2001

First of all rollin' is cool believe me i know, but when i rave it's for the music and how it saturates my whole body(i don't roll at raves) natural freakin high baby. move to the beat, be the beat. FEEL IT. what ever u feel is right do it, there is no wrong. r@vE oN!!! PLUR to all my ravers out there!!!! Luv u all

-- Anonymous, June 08, 2001

Hey, I need some help... I'm probably bout half your age... 13. I go to small dances... not raves, but I wus jus wondering if there wus any other way ta learn w/o pills, shrooms, or E? I started bout a year or two ago. I don't have any "moves" or dezignated stuff happening, I just... do it. I wanna have some things to add to it, not just make it as i go, it's cool, but it gets boring... for me. I wanna have some tips to it. Thanks

-- Anonymous, June 08, 2001

I need a bit of help though to, im 13, and i just went to my first rave/party tonight.. Im really good a glowsticks ( i think ), but how do i start dancing good.

-- Anonymous, June 09, 2001

hey, just practice practice practice! learn to moon walk first of all.

-- Anonymous, June 09, 2001

liquid is an art as much as it is a dance. it is an art that you dont learn but you know already. relax. let the natural flow of the music and your body guide you. dont even think about your performance. blank out your mind and put in the memory of the flow of water and just do what you came to do, RAVE. as long as you have a good time and your friends are cool, it doesn't matter if you could liquid.

-- Anonymous, June 11, 2001

what up ppl! glowstickin is awesome... i use photons mostly but i dink glowsticks look much nicer. plus i've gotten pretty good with the strings. check out www.homeofpoi.com for learnin to string. I've searched the entire web literally n found out theres rarely any good sites of glowstix pics n how-to glowstick webpages. one of them is some nrg eyecandie site...uhmm...dont remember the exact addy. i'm from NYC n gonna be at the NEON WORLD PARTY this july 3,2001 at Club Exit. Cya there, it gonna be the hottest glowtick party ever...if ur not there, ur missin out. =) later

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

hey...what's up to all fellow ravers.....I think you can't just learn how to rave dance, it's something that you learn to pick up. You learn to put your own dance flow to the music. If you try and learn like someone else, you will look to much like that person. so it's best you just learn to come up with your own style. well peace. PLUR.

-- Anonymous, June 16, 2001

You know what raving sucks! I hate to go to battles and find out ravers show up. Bunch of light wielding fags who bite off poppers and lockers. The fucken light sticks dont make a difference, just makes them seeable at night. I mean us breakers bust out the nicest moves ever seen then some hick with no pants shows up with a glowstick lookin like hes havin a siezure standin up. Break and never ever learn to Rave or you'll be a fucken moron with no sense of style. Peace

Do not take this offensive just a joke

-- Anonymous, June 16, 2001

liquid is just a bite of popping...you cannot choreograph liquid because liquid does not use the beat in anyway. it is just an evolution of waving to a fast tempo. if u realy want to learn how to dance then learn how to pop

peace cornuggets

-- Anonymous, June 16, 2001

No i wasnt jokin Ravers are gay. I agree Liquid bites off Poppin and doesnt use the beat. If anything learn to Pop never Rave. Unless you wanna look like a light wielding pansy with arm spasms then dont rave. Breakers could kick a ravers ass anyday. Lets make a comparasion shall we? Airtrack to Making a shape with a Glow Stick. Hmmmm........ RAVERS LIKE TO BITE THE PILLOW!

-- Anonymous, June 16, 2001

Hello is han dong an i like to lear how to pop.

-- Anonymous, June 16, 2001

RAVING IS FOR RAVERS NOT BREAKERS OR PEOPLE THAT LISTEN TO THAT RAP CRAP

-- DJ PROBLEMX (RaveX@ravenet.com), April 12, 2001.

WHOA my man...first of all breaking was orginally danced to funk music and still is today..go trip or some shit..booyaaaa

-- Anonymous, June 16, 2001

hello is han dong again. i believe that glow stick is use for sticking up the ass. Raving is for people with disabilities and they are gay like Japenese people and Chinese people.

-- Anonymous, June 17, 2001

Yep DjProbs your gay. The Bboy is right and so is Cornnuggets and Han Dong dont rave, break. Ravers need to take their sticks and shove it up there ass.

-- Anonymous, June 17, 2001

I like to rave is my very one passion yes yes 25 cent i learn to rave and glow stick is 25 cent i can wave very good yes yes i am no speak englisia yes yes

-- Anonymous, June 17, 2001

ehhhh ehhhhh eeehhh how bout ehh no ehhh i like to ehhh breathe on people ehhhe ehhhh ehhhe hhhh

-- Anonymous, June 17, 2001

yo they call me Blaza cuz i killed a nigga with raza, after i fucked his wife i cut her too she gave me head and it was wack thats why i fucked her from the back and now she on crack and im drinkin yac...haha thats a funny story if u wanna hear more go to robert horry he that junk bball bball playa, he plays just like the ravers them ugly boys who cant break and were born a mistake and cant get a date so im gonna leave so i cant go end someones fate.....

-- Anonymous, June 17, 2001

Yo Blaza hold up ya left some out cause ya cant doubt a true breakers skills while ravers cant even hit 1 mill dont understand then take your light emittin band and wave it around cause the breakers will unwound everything that ravers stand for take there whores fuck em off their drawers then when we done we shoot yall with a gun you think this is it shit nah dawg this Bboy just begun to hit....

-- Anonymous, June 17, 2001

pipl, go to http://www.homeofpoi.com/teach.htm, and instead of chains use some glowsticks and strings, and believe me, after 3 months ur gonna be some pros in that stuff!!!!!! - PLUR to ya all

-- Anonymous, June 17, 2001

ok for all u ravers out there just tripp on Ecstasy then get ur glow sticks and start going all out hear the music feel the beat ur so fucked up u dont even know ur dancing

-- Anonymous, June 18, 2001

I live in the Bay Area and I see people dancing some cool shit to house and trance music. I don't know what it is and what it's called but I really want to learn. They dance that style especially at Club 1015 Folsom and City Nights at the dance competitions. It's not the gay ass Skywalker Style like in Los Angeles. It's a lot of fast footwork. Can someone tell me of anywhere I can learn and what this style is called?

-- Anonymous, June 18, 2001

well if its dancing at all with footwork in it than its breakin if its waving around with lights sticks and all without the beat then its fucken gay ravin o yea zeek hokan or whatever your gay "Lets act hard and pretend we know what it feels like to be on Ecstasy" I bet you havent even touched a cig so how you gonna say you get fucked up on drugs? Yous gay

-- Anonymous, June 18, 2001

Hey, Duongski n Breaker, i dunno wut da fuck u talkin bout. i can break and rave. i tie my raving moves in with mah foot work. Thats looks kick ass if u do it right. so u can shove ur head up yo ass, cuz i think if u callin raving gay, u callin breakin gay too. peace

-- Anonymous, June 20, 2001

Whoa MPH hold up there. This cat's got to say that Personally i dont like either Disco is my thing but the other cats have got it right raving is for little punks and it is a "bite" or whatever they call it off of popping. Go stick your head up yo ass and maybe you'll find some wonton soup up there. Catch you real dancers on the flip side. Stayin Alive,

-- Anonymous, June 20, 2001

MPH you got smashed!!!!! Have fun takin your noodles out your ass in Toyko. Anyway i wonder if anyone heard of WAVE, not rave,WAVE Dancing? If you do email me cause i want to know what that is.

I can make an X with glow sticks but thats during Halloween when im supposed to act like a freak.

-- Anonymous, June 20, 2001

Welcome to the Kwik-E-Mart How can I help you?

Thank You, Come Again!

-- Anonymous, June 20, 2001

Hi i am a raver. I know lots of tricks to do with Glowsticks if ya know what i mean...... I want every guy to email me so we can talk about...Raving. I want to show somebody personally how to "connect" two "Sticks". I tried breaking but i moved on to this cool sport i just looooooove these glowsticks PUNK ROCKS MY WORLD!!!!!!!!!

Gimme me a call if ya know me!

-- Anonymous, June 20, 2001

wave dance is usually incororated into popping. learn by doing the basic armwave then body waves.. then eventually learn boogaloo cuz that shyt is dope as hell DO DAT BOOGALOO!! HAN DONG!!! EHHHH!!! oh yeah to the flamers..i mean ravers learn the foundations of liquid before u go around saying jumping around to 30000 tempo muzik on E is superior to all other dance forms.. oh yea bingeing isnt funny peace...hula hoopz...

-- Anonymous, June 20, 2001

Hi I was into Raving up until i saw this last message. When those guys called raving gay they didnt mean it like that you homo! And when someone says go tripp some balls i dont want to be there when your in the room. Thanx to that homo i have quit all forms of dance. Thank you for my time.

-- Anonymous, June 20, 2001

Wanna know why im blind? It has to do with "glowsticks" and the sticky goo inside them. Jason dont be afraid embrace what we have to offer. And Cornnuggets i know who you are and hula hoopz are great if you want to shoot some "hoopz" then come shoot some. AHHHHHHHHH i love Raves cause i can touch guys on accident. Talk to you Guys Later.

I binge so i am skinny enough to fit in asses.

-- Anonymous, June 20, 2001

YOU KNOW WHAT YOU GAY FREAK?!! IM CALLIN THE COPS SO THEY CAN LOCK YOU UP AND THE ONLY THING YOU CAN STICK UP YOUR ASS IS YOUR HANDCUFFS! YOU SHOULD BE LOCKED UP IN A NUT HOUSE YOU HOMOSEXUAL FREAK!!!! NO ON SECOND THOUGHT YOUD PROBABLY LICK THE PLACE TILL IT MELTED UNDER YOUR HEAVY BALL SWEAT BREATH!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I HATE ALL OF YOU(RAVERS)!

-- Anonymous, June 20, 2001

Listen up you little punks, I let this page stand because kids like you needed a place to talk about this stuff. But now it has begun to turn into a battle station between RaveDancing And BrokeDancing. If this obscene use of profanity is not stopped then this page will be. And Devin at Blindman742@aol.com, You are banned from this site. We do not tolerate homosexuality on any page in any country in any world. Thank you and keep the Heterosexuality alive.

-- Anonymous, June 20, 2001

LOL, u guys got told! I dun think break dancing or raving is gay, cuz its all cool. but that wus pretty funny. peace

-- Anonymous, June 20, 2001

PS. but wut i do think is gay is dat one dude. peace

-- Anonymous, June 20, 2001

Han Dong once more i still want learn to pop pease teach pease teach

-- Anonymous, June 20, 2001

Yes can't we all just get along? You see I like this, don't the other Dance, hate the Gay guy. You see if there is one thing that upsets me more than abuse of a forum, it's Homosexuality. Devin if I catch you ruining this site with your obsession of the insertation of the rectum, then I will be forced to personally find you and kick your ass. This Site as I said before or maybe i didn't is for Normal Heterosexual People. Lets keep it that way if you know this guy don't turn him in, kick his man lovin ass(don't let him like it though). Breakers and Ravers keep on Dancin.

-- Anonymous, June 20, 2001

yes unity + peace very good very good popping good.... teach!

-- Anonymous, June 20, 2001

So much for Peace and Unity you homophobic rednecks. Half the people you see at any rave are probably gay anyway.

-- Anonymous, June 21, 2001

dont hate the dance, hate those dick suckin faggots!

-- Anonymous, June 21, 2001

man...woman...don't hate the homo's..let them do their thing..and just let us all rave..if it was for hatred..let's just hate all them fukt up undocovers...and police..they the one whose messing the rave scenes up..aight..peace out to all the ravers and droppers!!!but for the beginners..who want to rave..just take yourself into esctacy land and become the matrix..where you see things the way you want..they when you'll understand and see how to really rave...

-- Anonymous, June 22, 2001

Dozze everybody probably agrees with me that your gay. By the way yes keep that heterosexual shit goin cause homos need to get there ass blown away. Peace

And for all the ravers, no everybody who thinks esctacy is the shit need to stop bullshitting cause i bet half you never even seen esctacy much less use it you fake fuckers.

-- Anonymous, June 22, 2001

Matt Reynolds or whatever who the fuck are you to call a redneck? Mateo del Norte huh? Whats that stand for a Mexican Taco with a dick inside? Damn smelly fucker. Anyway i want to learn how to dance anyone is fine with me. Bye

-- Anonymous, June 22, 2001

I said this and it looks like you little punkish 15 year olds can not get this through your head, THIS IS NOT A BATTLE. This page was made for ONE question on how to rave and it looks like you little no lives have made into a contest about which is better Breakdancing or RaveDancing. So from now on if anything using profanity is used then i will have to shut this whole page down and personally contact the male/female who wrote it. Thank you and I hope this makes a difference on your opinions on each other. By the way No Homo's allowed Have I made myself clear?

-- Anonymous, June 22, 2001

Well Mr.Administrator you can stick this up your ass as I have done o so many times. AHHH ORGASM SPASM!!!!!! Mr.A can I call you that? I LOOOOOVE YOUR MANLY TALK! Just like my email reads AHHH I cant help myself. Glowsticks and Hula Hoopz my place ok (blowing in your ear) ahhhhhhhhh! You should have known i would have found a way back in. Now theres no stopping me. YES YES YES!!!!!!!!! Lets get it on! I wanna go blind in my third eye! Stick your glowstick there! Yes YES! By the way raving is the shit lets keep it that way YES!

-- Anonymous, June 22, 2001

First of all kid you are sick. That was truly the most disgusting most vile thing that i ever heard. I hope someone finds you and destroys you so no one ever needs to hear from you. You by far have ruined this page and Raving even though I do not purticularly enjoy raving any how. You took your homophobia way off the edge. You peice of gay shit No ever will ever accept you ever. Raving was not excatly my thing but you just made me go 100 miles away from it. Hope you rot in hell you homo.

-- Anonymous, June 22, 2001

That was the sickest thing i ever read. Devin you will get your ass kicked one day i dont know when but you will.

-- Anonymous, June 22, 2001

Yo thats not cool thats gay and sick. Big P laying it out for all yall This is the DJ wit the mastamix but that kid sucks lotta dix. Keep on dancing all you who aint that guy.

-- Anonymous, June 22, 2001

Devin I dont know your real address but when I find it you will have hell to pay. I am not gay and I certainly wont ever be. Keep your abnormal nature away from here I will find you and report you to the law. Not only have you made this site unusually different than it already is, you make advances on ME through it. And I was wrong. You kids can do whatever you want. Just do not write homophobic things like Devin. If you know "Devin" please contact me so I can bring him to justice. I will have him locked up in an institution. Thank You and enjoy to express your freedom(heterosexually) on this site.

-- Anonymous, June 22, 2001

lol, am i the only person that finds this whole thing funny? the damn "administer" isnt really the administer, cuz his email add is fake! GOT RICE BITCH?! i think that the "administer" is trying to promote hedrosexuality...which is okay cuz GAY PEOPLE R DICK SUCKING FAGGOTS!! damn... would all u gay people go back to satan's hairy ass?! lol, this is very funny. peace

-- Anonymous, June 22, 2001

and.... P.S. Devin or wuteva.... thats includin u... NOW GO BACK TO SATANS HAIRY ASS!! >:/ peace

-- Anonymous, June 22, 2001

Do not question my authority kid. Just because I blocked everyones address on this site doesnt mean my email is fake. One more thing if you know who Devin is tell me. He will pay.

-- Anonymous, June 22, 2001

¡¿GOT RICE BITCH?!

-- Anonymous, June 23, 2001

Actually i do thank you very much. Ehhh i like to eat for fun and qua me de no chun!

-- Anonymous, June 23, 2001

You just need 2 practice a LOT, thaz all. I'm only 13 and I can liquid almost perfectly w/o rugs. Ya just need 2 practice.

-- Anonymous, June 23, 2001

U AINT GOT NO RICE BITCH!

-- Anonymous, June 24, 2001

I LOVE RAVEING ME AND DEVIN LIKE 2 TOUCH OUR GLOW STICKS 2 GETHER AND MAKE MAGIC ONCE I BENT OVER AND HE OST HIS GLOW STICK SOME WHERE....HEHEHE PLEASE SEND ME SOME CUMBALLS CUZ I LIKE 2 TRIP ON THOES. OH YA DEVIN SEND ME A MAIL BABIE ~~~Berham kadubie~~~~~~~~

-- Anonymous, June 24, 2001

OOOOOO BERHAM LAST NIGHT WAS GREAT ME AND HIM RAVED THEN WE WENT BACK TO HIS HOUSE AND WE REAMED!! WERE REAMING RAVERS!!!! CALL ME BABIE OR ANY OTHER GUYS MEBEY WE CAN HAVE A 3SOME... ~~~DEVIN~~~~~

-- Anonymous, June 24, 2001

That was the most sick thing i ever heard first theres one gay guy then theres two fucken get off the internet you homos and go bang your selves to death cause no one wants you. You guys have fun trippin on cumballs cause if i saw you at a rave id shoot you.

-- Anonymous, June 24, 2001

Hey u two faggots, if u wanna do that shit then do it sumwhere else u gay homosexual bastards, GO BACK TO SATANS HAIRY ASS!

-- Anonymous, June 24, 2001

the only way to be good at something is to practice alot if you really want to learn those stuff.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Hey guys, This is Narce from HoustonNightClubs.net. I'm inviting you to our new forums at HoustonNightclubs.net:

Forums - http://forums.houstonnightclubs.net

The website is still under development. Lots of cool features will be available for you clubbin / raver people. Anything from WASP Support (means you will receive club info through a cell or even a pager for free!) to our new forums (Sweet ass forums) Why wait! Go there NOW!!!

Forums - http://forums.houstonnightclubs.net Website - http://www.houstonnightclubs.net

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Im game for a threesome Devin and Berham im gay and i rave with THREE Glowsticks i love you all email me at HUMPINAVINS2423234@aol.com

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

hey reve, techno forever!!! dirtbike even more!!! endurostyle and raves rule! roll on e and trip on cid! hells yes. lifes a party dont miss a one. oh yeah. endurostyle O.U.T.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

HELLO, FAGGOTS, DID U NOT READ MY MESSAGE?

Hey u two faggots, if u wanna do that shit then do it sumwhere else u gay homosexual bastards, GO BACK TO SATANS HAIRY ASS!

-- MPH (Gay_ppl_Should_Rot_n_hell@hedero.com), June 24, 2001.

INSTEAD OF U TWO FAGS, THIS GOES TO ALL FAGS... DONT DO THAT SHIT HERE, GO BACK TO SATAN'S HAIRY HAIRY ASSHOLE TO DO THAT SHIT... AND THATS NOT HERE

-- Anonymous, June 27, 2001

I have only been to one rave but it seems the attitude there was cool and everyone was exepted. These fuckers that turn it into a war are fucked up. I think learning to liquid was pretty easy when i went. I was trippin though if its any cosolation. It is addictive. WHO GIVES A FUCK WHAT YOU PEOPLE PREFUR TO DO. EVERYONE SHOULD GO,EAT SOME DRUGS (if thats what you do),AND HAVE ONE FUCKIN HELL OF A TIME AND NOT FUCK PEOPLE AROUND. I got a tottaly differant impression of the way people acted when I went.GROW THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, June 27, 2001

Hey D-man shut your fucken ass. What are you too pussy to leave your real email cause you know 500 peeps would email you sayin that your a fag? Go tripp? Yea sure and ill go "eat" drugs too. Before you run your mouth pretendin you know whats up go join those fags and maybe you can go bite some glowsticks. For everybody else kee[]D it real. Peace

-- Anonymous, June 27, 2001

What up people. I have like sort of a beef to pick with u people. we are all ravers and breakers and what not right?? well we always talk about PLUR and stuff, i totally believe in that, well why do people on this forum keep raggin' on the gay folk???? doesnt matter what ur sexual preference is we are all here to dance and love the music and one another... There's no room in raving for homophobia... PLUR

-- Anonymous, June 29, 2001

I dont care if they're gay, i just dun wanna hear that shit that they're saying.

-- Anonymous, June 29, 2001

Didnt You people Read the Topic?! It says I Wanna Learn How TO Rave Dance. Dont Tell her about sitting there and watch other people cause thats not going to help so NEWayz.........I can teach you some stuff.

String Glow Stick Raving: Have 2 glowsticks, one in each hand. start spinning them the the beat. when your ready, Cris Cross the glow sticks and Wow! you done somthing -_-; just keep doing that to the beat then when your ready, After you bring the glowsticks to your side, bring them both foward infront of you making the glowsticks go in a circle form, Your hands should be touching and going up and down swinging the glowsticks to the beat. Now Bring one glowstick behind you and then bring the other behind your head to and start alternating them and you did another trick! WOW! -_-; Just Practics thoses stuff and once your so good that you dont hit yourself then move to the Figure 8's.

Above Figure 8: When your alternating the Glowsticks above your head, theres a point where you can rotate your wrist making a Figure 8 in the air, when you do this your glowstinks should make a Circle infront of you and in back and if you do this fast enough it will look like a bent 8 over your head.

Needle: Have your arms out foward and your hands going up and down making that circle with your glowsticks, and at the beat starts movie 1 arm move infront of the other then start alternating them making it look like your poking a needle throu.

I know more tricks and Ill Explain them better IF!..........

YOu Teach Me how to Box Rave, Liquid, Ball Rave and Rave Battle(Dance Battle)

Glowstick Is my Best. U see me at a Rave and Ill be Triping U Out.

-- Anonymous, June 30, 2001

k im sick of all these dumb answers like feel the music and just watch people what if u cant watch people and u want to learn moves like i know there is moves other than liquid if any on has any tips like other than feel the music or just go with it i would like to hear from u at poopy_46@hotmail.com

-- Anonymous, June 30, 2001

haaaaaaa, I agree with U

-- Anonymous, June 30, 2001

Yo everybody out there I want to learn how to 360 Tomahawk Windmill Dunk if anybody out there knows how to email me cause I want to learn

-- Anonymous, July 01, 2001

Drugs are bad. They'll tottally screw up your life if you don't stay away from them. Liquid is fun...and you don't have to be on E or anything to be good @ it.

-- Anonymous, July 01, 2001

Yes i agree. Also i know how to 360 windmill dunk but i cant do it with a tomahawk. Stretch Rules!

-- Anonymous, July 02, 2001

haha that songs sucks. anyway NBA Street kicks ass but stretch is an old geezer. MJ all the way.

-- Anonymous, July 02, 2001

thats right. you dont have to be on E or and kind or junk to be good at Raveing. ^_^

My Anti-Drug is Bemania

-- Anonymous, July 03, 2001

ZOLTAN

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-- Anonymous, July 04, 2001

Well there is one thing that you must never, ever do. That is copy another raver's style. Copying style is like the lamest thing you could possibly do. Just come up with your own shit and when you feel ready, then show other people. Trust me, at first I was a nervouse little biatch but then at a rave, I busted my shit and everyone cheered. It was a damn good feeling, especially because it was all mine. I didn't even need E or anything. Anyways, happy raving, hope ya learn. Love, peace, and understanding yall.

-- Anonymous, July 08, 2001

RAVES ARE THE BEST! You will never, ever have another rush like it. I don't know nothing about doing the pills, because I've never raved on them...but I go for the music. That's ALL it's about. If you love the music and love the dance, who cares what you look like? I admit, I still haven't gotten the hang of dancing out there either, but everytime I'm out there...the feeling is unstoppable and you'll discover it. Everyone in this answer thingie is right, if you just listen to the music and love the music, the liquid will come to you. It's still coming to me--but everyone has their own way of raving! If anyone want to criticize you for the way you dance, Fuck them, they don't love it enough. You have to feel it for you not them. Make the dancefloor yours! I'm still learning, so email me and we'll talk and all, and if you have any tips, mail me. i haven't even mastered glowsticks yet, any tips out there? Just love it, not the drugs. You don't need to risk death for the beat and element of the music and dance. If you really want to learn, you'll feel it and know when you truly RAVE!!!!! Peace... Jah Love...

-- Anonymous, July 10, 2001

HEy y'all now, most if you guys have answered that the best way to learn to rave is to get out there and dance and feel the music. but let's hypothetically say that I'm a beginner.... actually. no, I am a beginner. I've never been to a rave before, only to sissy little clubs scenes that play the little techno and don't touch upon anything else. Anyway, sure thing, go out there and feel the music, but I'm totally uncoordinated and would adore to learn some basic steps, or basic moves... It's not about trying to look good, its about wanting to be able to dance =p

if anybody could help me! Pls Mail me at jeremy@your-house.com , it'd b funkily appreciated =)

-- Anonymous, July 12, 2001

All of my friends have been to raves, and they all seem pretty confident about their moves, but tend to shy away when i ask for pointers. Can anyone give me a few tips on how i can just get into the feel of the music w/o the pills?

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2001

dude dance is like water it keeps on flowing!!it might help if you watch others dance at a rave and then you can put moves of your own together, weither it b moves youve seen others doing or moves you just made up life is one big DANCE PARTY so rave on lil DANCER!

-- Anonymous, July 14, 2001

We raves can only show you the basics of raving. you have to learn the rest on your own. like liquid.

-- Anonymous, July 15, 2001

Just watch everybody dance at a rave, and make up a style that uses some of everyones moves....and you will be the shit...thats what i did.... and its fun fun fun

-- Anonymous, July 17, 2001

LoL hahahaha John CoOk ish a funny name! hahahaha LoL

-- Anonymous, July 18, 2001

i like to rave and save

-- Anonymous, July 19, 2001

hahahahahahahaha.. john brown isha funny name too

-- Anonymous, July 20, 2001

hahahahahahahahahaha! LOL jack brown ish even funnier! hahaha! lmao!!...lol!!

-- Anonymous, July 20, 2001

I can barrel-roll and knee dribble up court cross you up and bring down the rim on yo ass! Haha thats why I should be in Rucker Park!

-- Anonymous, July 20, 2001

I know the best way to learn is by watching others, but us newbies still need some basics taught to us. Like how do you start to learn liquid or box rave, or can someone help me learn how to house step or seawalk please???? someone help the lost and confused!

-- Anonymous, July 22, 2001

Hey I have made some videos on my computer that teach liquid basics. If you guys want them you can drop me an email or something. I have been doing liquid for a while now, and I know its hard to start out. Plus, you can watch someone that is actually good, and also uses popping and locking to make a complete style of dance. Just drop me an email. Peace.

-- Anonymous, July 22, 2001

I have been ravin for a few months now, and the best type is elbow raving. i learned it in a few days. its real easy. Another good trick is to put the glowsticks near ur face and to wave them like a maniac. All the girls love it. So go to a rave and take my advice, u wuill be fine.

-- Anonymous, July 23, 2001

OK, I am real young, under.....17, but im not going to tell you my real age. I have only been to a few parties, some with my 17 year old ex boy friend, andits kool. I always need to use glowsticks to work with the music. My advice is try out every suggestion if you like, but dont take too tooo much drugs!!! you dont want your first dance to be your last!!! Glowsticks are the coolest!! take two, each a diff color and just make a wave with your hands, go faster and faster and try to make circlesok? if you want to email me, i more than likely will check this email than the other one, tabletopteaser05@hotmail.com ok? email me, you or ne body else who wants to find out my real age, you just gotta tell me your info.....

-- Anonymous, July 25, 2001

ok HEAR ME NOW!!! u need to go to a coulpe of sites on the net to get written and diagrams of breakin' then buy or rent a couple of breakin' videos then watch peepz breakin and ask 4 help (and if u white be carefull) and watch MTV and see the breakin video clips and practice practice and do some more practice and ull get it p.s stenghten ur arms p.p.s Keep It Real

-- Anonymous, July 26, 2001

hey everyone...im glad to see that we're back2 the original topic and finally stopped all the gaybashing and everything...even tho it was pretty funny.... anyways i see how everyone keeps sayen "jus do e and everything will flow" and i used to agree completely..until about a year ago my boyfriend was rollin at a rave and he got really overheated and everything but no one did anything (no one really noticed) he passed out and then went into a coma (in the hospital the next day) and then he died a few days later. after that i stopped using. im not saying that if u do e your gunna die or ur a fuckin idiot or anything. im just saying be careful!! and help each other out it could save a life!! u dont need pillz to rave, raving is about expressing yourself and individuality. im prob gunna get a lotta shit about this but whatever it takes to spread the warning. *PLUR* keep the vibe alive.

-- Anonymous, July 26, 2001

wow thas some sad shyt. i think the best thing to do at the club if ur rolln is just listen to what ur body is telling you. some people will dance till they cant ance anymore and they dont take a minute to listen to themselves. they over heat and dehydrate and then that leads to serious shyt. ALWAYS bring water! I usually bring gum or ring pops so i have a sugar rush and that wakes me otta a sleepy trip. Its also a good idea to sit down for a while to let the stuff kick in. another thing is i i am not feeling good i drink a cup of OJ (its mad xpensive in the clubs) but still it could save ur life. This is just my opinion. so next time u at the club think b4 pop and dance all nite. :)

-- Anonymous, July 26, 2001

yo, duz ne 1 know where to get those huge ass glowstix?! they are like 3 feet long...? they are crazy may-unnnnn!! but yuh. thas what i wanna know. thanx. PEASH!

-- Anonymous, July 26, 2001

you can find 3 feet glowsticks at party city

-- Anonymous, July 27, 2001

woohoo! thanx a bunch Guy!

-- Anonymous, July 27, 2001

Is there any do's and dont's to what you should wear to a rave?

-- Anonymous, July 30, 2001

you should wear a gay repellent and you shouldnt wear neon or colorful clothin cause you attract gays like that

-- Anonymous, July 30, 2001

Rollr,

Raves are a fuckin x tabs themselves if you pop in the right one it could change how you feel instantly.So find you a fuckin rave be yourself,your own style. Dance is like an experssion you can change it as often as you want and if they don't like it who cares.......

Plur roller,Xtasy

-- Anonymous, July 30, 2001

I just want to say that I am not gay, but am not homophobic. I have since changed my mind about homosexuals and decided that they have a place in the world just like straight people do. As long as they understand and respect me for being straight then there should be no problem at all. Mad respect and PLUR to everyone because that is waht raving is all about. You should be able to go to a party alone and leave with at least two new friends, even if you are gay. Just because a person is gay doesn't mean that they want you, that's just conceited to think that.

-- Anonymous, July 31, 2001

Ok listen up who ever posted that last message was not me. It is just some kid who obviously must be gay and wanted people to stop raggin on gays. I hate gays and i think that the Xtsacy or however its spelled guy posted the last message because it has PLUR in it. So before you go around messin around on my name think of this you gay: Are you Gay? I think so. O to make it clear: GAYS Should not bother normal people and I hate them.

-- Anonymous, July 31, 2001

now dont start that shit again. that goes to all the gay dumb asses out there.

-- Anonymous, July 31, 2001

yall shudnt be fightin and yall wudnt be fightin if u faggots dont mention ur gay, and dont say that gay shit, there will be no problem.

-- Anonymous, July 31, 2001

exactly, MPH is right, no more fighting between gays and straights. If your gay, I dont wanna fuckin know! Please, no homosexuality comments! All gay people will be banned if it keeps up. so, no more!

-- Anonymous, July 31, 2001

well im gay do you got a problem with that? o thats right well guess what im back!

-- Anonymous, July 31, 2001

I speak for everyone when i say ur gay and you should fuckin be killed Devin

-- Anonymous, July 31, 2001

listen u little faggot. I dont give a fuck if ur gay, so quit announcing it, cuz i dont wanna have to worry about little faggots like u. I dont hear the nasty shit that ur sayin either, so go back to satan's hairy asshole. If ur going to annouce it dont annouce it here, you dickless faggot. go chock on ur fuckin dick, if u can find it. thats probaly y ur gay, cuz ur dick is so small. This is a site about Raving, not gay faggots like you. So keep raving talk, and quit the gay shit talk. well, im out. peace

-¤RaViNgPnOy¤

-- Anonymous, July 31, 2001

what the hell are you going to do about it MPH? huh? Ill whip my wang out and hit ya so hard youll turn gay! Feel the Wrath of DEVIN!(in my pants)

-- Anonymous, July 31, 2001

ur gay shut the fuck up

-- Anonymous, July 31, 2001

WHADDUP TO ALL THE RAVERS!!!??? First of all, ravers are the SHIT!!! I've been raving for 3 months now, and I really love it, and I wanna get better at it. You really can't "learn" how to rave, like they said, just do your own thing, feel the beat, and go with the flow. The best way is to practice and ask, or even experiment with your moves. If you wanna learn liquid, get some white gloves and try doing the "S" or "8" patterns with your fingers, under a blacklight. Once you learn how to do it, you'll get so addicted to it. Don't worry about other people. Just have fun, and keep on raving... Peace out to all the wicked ravers!!! >:0)-

-- Anonymous, August 01, 2001

As promised, I finished my little Flash Rave Dance animation project. You all can check it out at http://gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~panda/ng/flash.html . Let me know what you think... I dunno if I'm gonna follow it up anytime soon. I appreciate all input: "it sucks," "it's cool," especially the "it'd be cool if.. " kind of input. Thanks Ravers.. I think this is the start of something interesting..

-- Anonymous, August 01, 2001

Sorry you gay little gay fag, I'll never be gay. I made that promise to ur mom, and i intend to keep it, cuz she gives great head. u could try to hit me wit ur micro wang, if u could find it. and if i ever see ur gay ass ill cap u. have fun when theres bullets in ur asshole. Now i think i speak for everone when i say, GET OUT OF HERE YOU GAY FAGGOT. I, and im sure everyone else doesnt want to hear wut ur sayin. the title of this page isnt "i wanna learn how to be a gay little faggot." its "i wanna learn how to rave dance." so talk about raving, n quit the gay little faggot dick sucking talk.

-- Anonymous, August 02, 2001

well im going to put in my 2 cents of what i think about the ravers and the breakers. the ravers rave on but the breakers need to git a life im not really into the intire rap thing im more into the fast beating electronical trance house and your techno. i am 14 and ive loved electronical music since i was about 13 im going to my 3rd rave august 4 2001 in hagerstown md downtown witha couple of my friends.the thing is when you are gittin ready to git out on the floor block out all bad thoughts and just flow with the beats if you cant git into sit it out until you hear something that catches your attention and just fill the vibes man. dont let other pepole critsize your style of dancing it will just ruin your fun time.

-- Anonymous, August 04, 2001

How's it goin' peeps?!?! I'm not really answering the question this time. I have to ask all the ravers, I just started raving like 2 or 3 months ago, and I can do liquid pretty good for a starter. But I was wondering, how can I add more waves on my body? Like, I want it to flow in my whole body, you know what I mean? Please, if you have any tips or suggestions, just e-mail me back... Thanks a lot fellow ravers!

P.S. If you guys have a cool site about raving and stuff, please let me know too... Peace out y'all & keep on ravin'...

ErIcKsOn

-- Anonymous, August 04, 2001

yo chris west who the fuck do you think you are? you say us breakers are gangstas and rappers? how bout you shut your muthafucken ass cause we'd kick yours if we saw it. First off we aint "gangstas". Second we dont break to rap(tho we can) its mostly done to hip-hop beats. Third who the fuck are you tell people to stop criticizin the other dance? ur doin it right now you dick sucker. If i saw you id shoot you. Gotta a problem wit me then email me so i can set up a meetin to kick your ass then shoot the muthafucker so it dont look like a body then bury ya 6 ft deep below a subway. Hows that you little electronic freak? For the rest of yall do your thing i dont care just dont try to act hard and gay like that kid.

-- Anonymous, August 05, 2001

word...

-- Anonymous, August 05, 2001

Hello, I like to suck cock.

-- Anonymous, August 05, 2001

ok thats the last straw you gay bastard who ever wrote that IS gay and im guessing its DEVIN. Devin i have your ISP and i will report you. Then i will find out the information on you and take you to COURT. Obviously if it says something stupid like gay stuff then the message is not mine. DEATH TO GAYS!!!!!

-- Anonymous, August 05, 2001

I've only been to a couple of raves and I dance alright so far... oh well I have alot of fun and meet cool peeple.... I'm just wondering.. how do you stop yourself from sweating so much... I've sweat so much that people have slipped and fallen cause of my puddle on the floor... what the fuck should I do?

-- Anonymous, August 05, 2001

HAHA! You're funny man... Hmmm, This is a pretty stupid suggestion but you should give it a try. Put some anti- perspirant on your whole body. It should work... Oh well, but seriously, you really can't do nothing to prevent it. Just have a break every once in a while, try to cool off, and keep on dancing again... That's what I do all the time, and it always works... So, later man... Keep on ravin'...

-- Anonymous, August 05, 2001

hmmm.. ever heard of anti-prespirant deodorant?

-- Anonymous, August 06, 2001

Fuck what people think....just start by moving ur hands together and let the one hand follow the other its simple...its really does help though to practice all the time...it dont matter what people think cuz most people who critisize r either self-conceious about what they look like or cant dance for shyt...its all about whad u do and having fun...just keep fckin around w. glow stick, roll ur balls off and have fun and thats all that matter...ONE-

-- Anonymous, August 06, 2001

GOT RICE BITCH?!!

-- Anonymous, August 07, 2001

Hey..I was the same way I wanted to learn how to rave at 1st I SUCKED I only went to 2 raves..at how sweet it is...I dropped and let me tell you I danced like a pro it helped some much. I do little things around the house and then I put it together and DAM! there I go! I cant till Nocturnalwonder land comes its just around the corner I CAN"T WAIT!!! LAteR

-- Anonymous, August 08, 2001

Some of you people really disgust me and I hope that none of you are from the Philly scene. Raves are supposed to be a positive thing, not a forum for your ignorant hate. You're all just a bunch of insecure little boys. I bet you all get off on lesbian porno don't you? Oh, and if you want to make lots of nasty comments to me about being a faggot, go ahead, they're not going to hurt me. Because I'll admit it, I love men, but then don't most heterosexual women? So get a life you lame-ass hate mongers. Peace.

-- Anonymous, August 08, 2001

dude your gay and that was corny as shit. "i love men but so do most heterosexual women" go take the sand out of your pussy. Ya im from philly and i streetball so i dont dance but ur gay cause no one really gives a shit bout what you say. If your gay dont fucken talk about it thats all i gots to say.

-- Anonymous, August 08, 2001

...What happened 2 da person that posted this question?? I bet that fool popped 3 pillz n got wasted 6 ft under, I wonder if he ever learned? dayum I bet he's dead. Well Albert...if ur still alive,my answer is to get seriously fucked up with pillz n think ur dancin great even if ur convulsin on da floor...its' all good righ?? well...time for my blue 4 point ninja starz...

OK We'll start up another topic...what's ur favorite E pill everybody?

-- Anonymous, August 09, 2001

okey... If ur gay, keep it to urself... ight? i dun really wanna knoe... n im sure no one else does either. n who cares about the question? jus talk about wut u want... that dude that made that question is still alive dumb ass... he jus started this site cuz he got bored... n it has turned into a battle ground... so does anyone fuckin care about da question? i dint think so.... ne who peash.

-- Anonymous, August 09, 2001

I care about the question and about YOU MPH. I Love You and everybody. Call me chao baby.

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2001

ight... y dun u take yo dumb hippi gay ass away from me befo i cap yo ass... if yo gay i dun really give a shit ight.... jus take yo small dick sumwhere else befo u get yo ass kicked ight?

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2001

ight... dat wudnt even Devin cuz his connection number has been banned from dis site... dat fucka who wrote dat can go back to satan's asshole now.... since dat wudnt him tha mothafucka who wrote dat wuz prolly a dick suckin mothafucka too.

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2001

Hey if anybody knows or hears about any raves in Tn holla at me!!!

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2001

No cause i switched to msn MPH SO no matter how much you try to deny it it is me Devin "smooches" luv yas

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2001

HAHAHA looks like you have an admirer MPH and hes GAY hahahhahaah sry man-brian

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2001

shut up u dum ass bastard.. this faggot prolly likes every guy ..u too.. cuz hes a ga dick sucking small penised(is that a word?) dumbass...

-- Anonymous, August 11, 2001

ooooo every guy sounds good. mmm yummy i like that salty taste thought. I especially want some of that dark booty of Duongski's. i love the feeling of a firm break dancing ass! oo I would love for you to flare my ass for me! ;) call me some time baby! oh and that hahaha guy sounds good too. I love a guy that's humorious! Grrr i want it all!

-- Anonymous, August 12, 2001

keep sayin dat shit u motherfuckin bastard n sum day u'll get capped, if it aint me dat caps u first bitch

-- Anonymous, August 12, 2001

Your dead Devin i will cap your ass cause i know where you live. Ill have Harmon shoot you wit his 9MM. Prepare to die bitch.

-- Anonymous, August 12, 2001

RAVE RAVE RAVE RAVE!!!!!

-- Anonymous, August 15, 2001

word...

GOT RICE BITCH?!

-- Anonymous, August 15, 2001

cut the love shit

-- Anonymous, August 15, 2001

shit...dat nigga is dead , we all kno...shit i bet he's devon....

-- Anonymous, August 16, 2001

RAVE RAVE RAVE RAVE!!!! RAVE!!!!!

-- Anonymous, August 16, 2001

GOT RICE BITCH?!!!

-- Anonymous, August 17, 2001

"HOW YA LIKE ME NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW?"

-- Anonymous, August 17, 2001

um..? im 14 and i rave,pop,and break,i think raving is just keep a flow fallow youre first hand! hey for better advice buy "PHOTON LIGHTS" they are way better and they look awsome so well take my advice be original get youre status and be ,kool don't be afraid of going into a circle withlots of people! im young but i can't wait till i can turn 19 ad go to real raves owe and some good techno check out "Atb don't stop,sandstorm,children,goddspeed aight peace!

-- Anonymous, August 17, 2001

Hey NC! I'm from Houston and just wanted to spread the love to everyone in NC!

-- Anonymous, August 18, 2001

brack it down just dont think about it and start moving alot. Have a blast and most importint make sure you dance. Just go with the flow

-- Anonymous, August 18, 2001

Man,what the hell is all this fightin shit about????have all of you forgot what ravin and breakin is all about????it's a form of self expression!!it doesn't matter about color,age,sex, or sexuality!!!we are all at tha raves to have a good time.all ya'll need to squash all this childish shit.it's not cool to act like that it's actually kinda sad that you all would take a page like this and take it from strait up honest answers at tha top to this shit at the bottom.if all of ya'll are true ravers then you should know the raver's 11th commandment THE WORLD SHALL BE UNINTED THROUGH THE POWER OF MUSIC AND DANCE.some of ya'll shoould remember that!!

Now back to the point....Does anyone have any tips on learning orb Email me or post it

PLUR>>> BooBoo(liquid_xtc18@yahoo.com)

-- Anonymous, August 19, 2001

okey.. can i comment? no? too bad. I dun really give a fuck if ur gay, but expressing your "own rave" is different from expressing that ur gay! get mah drif? keep raving, and dont mention ur sexuality! u go to a Rave... not a Gayve(thas sum phunny ass shiet ryte der!)...

-- Anonymous, August 21, 2001

"THE WORLD SHALL BE UNINTED THROUGH THE POWER OF MUSIC AND DANCE"....

...uh ya sure

-- Anonymous, August 21, 2001

dumbasses......

-- Anonymous, August 21, 2001

I STILL DON'T KNOW HOT TO RAVE....CAN SOME1 ACTUALLY TEACH ME THE STEPS?? EMAIL ME IF U CAN

-- Anonymous, August 22, 2001

Raving is very simple. I am 14 and I picked up in a few minutes. Basically whatever one hand does the other does. Go to a Rave and watch. The try. If u still have trouble, come back and I will type out step by step. However it might be complicated. Good Luck!

-- Anonymous, August 22, 2001

Hey.. All you fucking IDIOTS out there need to smoke something,pop, eat, drink....just TAKE Something to chill the Fuck out. Mello. Yeah.. Anyways, I think i could put my two cents in.. Seeing as how NOBODY has actually put a basic move in this little page ...(yeah.. you've named em' but what the fuck is it supposed to mean to some one whos never danced before,ey?)

~Figure 8~

Stand in front of a mirror Put your arms Straight out in front of you Bend at the elbows and make your fingertips touch From the starting point(infront of your face) Make a S shape Stop Make another "S" But this time make it Backwards like a Z. You should be back at the starting point. From there you can do all Sortz of shit. Make it up, go with the beat, DON"T THINK!! You think you Fuck up. Do what feels Natural, Practice by yourself if your shy, or getcha friends ta judge you. And, if your rhythmically challenged.. And there seem to be a whole special breed of you out there.. start by tapping your foot to the beat and just make your movements to your taps. it might look a lil chopy at first but soon, people around ya will ooo and ahh.. i swear. (And uh if you don't know what a beat is.. get your ass to a speaker, stick yer head back ass tit tongue eyebrow.. whateva the fuck and when you feel that vibration.. Goddammit DANCE!!) Hey.. PLUR everybody.. DanceSafe.

~`_`~ Pyll Pop

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2001

People who don't take drugs are gay.

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2001

you are gay .

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2001

damn, they got the sexiest biggest dicks...mmmmmm.....

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2001

What the hell Do dix.. gays.. death threats.. rice.. hafta do With Raving? Grow the fuck up, get your own life and stop worrying about how to run others'. Chyll. Mello. Be fucking serene and STAY ON TOPIC.

Pyll Pop ~`_`~

-- Anonymous, August 24, 2001

Ur a dumass... rice is mah ravin power! AZN PRIDE BIA! u aint got the rice, u aint got the skill... n fuck the topic... who gives a fuck? i sure dont! does anyone else? i didnt think so! peash biaz...

GOT RICE BITCH?!

-- Anonymous, August 24, 2001

Hi, ummmmm are any of you even ravers? I'm Canadian (ahh here come the jokes, grow up) and i don't know about the states but we believe in a little something called plur. Peace Love Unity Respect... and all i know is i went to wemf (world electronic music festival) and there where tons of americans there, they all said canada was awesome (better pot and pills for cheaper :p) but the thing i found most important was they said our vibe was so positive... i dont know what kind of raves you guys are throwing but who cares if someones gay?? as long as he doesnt touch your ass (then you could slaughter him brutally) but he won't, you want to know why?? *whisper* "cause he knows your not gay" and if there was any confusion, why resort to violence, take it as a compliment and explain to him... so much homophobia and negative energy it makes me sick,... i'm not leading the gay army or anything (not even in it) im just have no reason to be angry at these people what so ever, ------------------on topic-------------------- i caught on to liquiding/popping/breaking fast because i really wanted it. I really had anicipated my first rave by the time i got to it. Before that i had watched documentries and heard alot about them and i am totally in love with the scene. I became good at rave dance because i followed my own style completely, almost as religion. my gloveshows would blow your mind, i love to share my skill at parties/ teach- even though i find this tricky when asked.. i love trance, jungle, and breaks/triphop, or even funky house... best advice is to learn your own style then bring fluidity(8's, S's, Waves, mirror's etc.) into while incorporating popping to follow beats with precistion (sp.?) it looks awesome, and every person will have a unique style. PLEASE PEOPLE RESPECT THE FORUM AND RESPECT EACHOTHER

-- Anonymous, August 27, 2001

i've gone to parties for >6 yrs. to dance better, practice at home. dance in front of a full-length mirror at home. i recommend electro music, especially if you're popping, or hip-hop. trance is good for flowy dancing. techno is good for tearing-up-the-floor dancing. by the way, from one "fag" to several others, all i can say is, it takes one to know one. you too, administrator. people throw around accusations of faggotry because they're afraid of one (an accusation) coming their way.

-- Anonymous, August 27, 2001

pps... this is a rave forum and not the all others (faqs,ricers,racist ets... u all suck any way :-) )

going back to the question.... the bast way to lern is to practice and find your own stile... start from waves, go to 8's and to fireballs....

i have my unic(atliest i think so) it a mix of liquid, fixting and bateeling.... i do alot of 8, firebals, shileds i don't trip... but heard it might help.... and trust me nobody cares how u reve becouse evry stile is cool and some one might find something interesting in yours.....

later, peace out

-- Anonymous, August 27, 2001

and one more thing, MPH, you really piss me off..... you were shown racial prejudice when you started posting here, but as soon as the attention was drawn off your asian orgin you showed homosextual prejudice, live at let live people... let the ravers rave and the breakers break, guys who fuck chicks and guys who fuck dicks, does it really matter? do your own thing and dont worry about the person next to you, racism and homophobia ARE NOT normal...it's 2001 people, have you been under a rock the last 20 years, if the people im talking about in this forum where at a rave i would leave in 1/2 hour cause i could just imagine the poison they bring to a vibe.... for all you who agree with me post and say your bit

-- Anonymous, August 28, 2001

ur gay cause no one cares. If someone wants to post somethin then let them as long as its not about gay shit. no one agrees with you cause Tim B. ur racist about that asian shit so shut up. Now please someone get back to the real subject

-- Anonymous, August 29, 2001

aye Dan i totally agree wid u lolz. who sed i wus racist? lolz.. who am i racist against? lolz ur a complete dumass Tim B. i do hang wid azn ppl cuz azn pplz stick together if u havent noticed... like fruit loops in the cerial bowl.. I WILL do mah thing...n u want me to quit worrying about the guy next to me? i wouldnt worry, if he wouldnt keep telling me hes gay.. get mah drif? i aint homophobic either u dumb ass, but if sumone makes a sexual comment to me that i dun lyke.. straight or gay... ill prolly cap there ass.. get mah drif? thas all i gotz to say.. peash

-- Anonymous, August 29, 2001

Wanna learn goto www.shaddupanddance.com If you wanna learn they can teach you.

-- Anonymous, August 30, 2001

k, i dont think you guys even understood my last post (big words eh?) here i will interpretit for you..... mph, when you first posted here people posted racist messages afterwards regarding asians (go back and check if you like) i was simply stateing that it was interesting how even after that when the tables were turned you showed homosextual prejudice. the simple fact is all prejudice is wrong no matter who it is against, live and let live... im not gay, (did i say i was?) and i dont care if captain ignorance and his retardo troops agree with me or not, im just stateing an obvious opinion, nowwwww..... could the rest of the posts be on topic and not who is better ravers or breakers? who is gay? or any other bullshit, everbody pop yer pills, dance and be happy.

-- Anonymous, August 31, 2001

okey Tim... wutz ur definition of prejudice? not lyking someone cuz ob a certain reason ryte? If thas prejudice, than ur prejudice against me... so SHUT THE HELL UP.... y shud i listen to u? huh? give me one fuckin good reason y... and i might... im finna step peepz... peace

-- Anonymous, September 01, 2001

Wsuh i was jusz wunderin,,,anyone give me sites to rave light vids aiite l8zzzzzzzz

-- Anonymous, September 02, 2001

What is Love?, Baby dont hurt me, Dont hurt me, No more....

-- Anonymous, September 03, 2001

shud up dong lolz

-- Anonymous, September 03, 2001

you got an organ goin there... no wonder the sound has so much body...

-- Anonymous, September 03, 2001

YOAH i like to kick it in my crib 24/7 while im rappin shit like what the dillio and was he fo-reallio. Im am straght up the best shit eva. Dont piss me off or i sock yo ass with my power of wisdom. I rave Ultra fast and i break like rocksteady so there SUCKAS i am masterbaterful. Uh yea I am King.

-- Anonymous, September 04, 2001

Howdy folks.. who cares if you're gay or raceist? i sure don't! i like having dicks in my mouth! is there something wrong with that? all dicks are good.. except for black people, i hate hate niggers! KILL ALL NIGGERS! South will rise again! get back in the feilds!

-- Anonymous, September 05, 2001

Damn yo your a gay racist. Ill shoot your ass cause thats just wrong. Anyway for everybody else im hungry anybody know any good resturaunts cause i want to try new ones. PEACE OUT

-- Anonymous, September 05, 2001

Holy hella fuck yo... ur gonna burn jus lyke u deserve bioch.. ur racist ass is toast.. now u knoe y u i dun lyke u faggotz?!

-- Anonymous, September 05, 2001

i dont want ppl threatening other ppl cuz they're hiding behind their comps, do it face to face with no backup

-- Anonymous, September 08, 2001

u people are so crazy its like allz u kids do is sit there n go back n forth raggin on each other..its so dumb and i kno that jus cuz im saying this like a trillion people are gunna be like fuck u shut the fuck up your gay haha its so stupid

-- Anonymous, September 09, 2001

OK, you guys have finally made me see it. You're right about all that homophobia stuff just being denial. I truly am gay...and if you're a single male willing to chat please email me!!

-- Anonymous, September 09, 2001

fo rillz... quit the raggin! so hush yer faces.. n u stoopid Bee-OH- itch(administrator) u bes shut yer mouf, cuz yer only rankin on yerself...even tough i knoe that aint the REAL administrator, cuz obviously he dun lyke gays.. drif felt? n the BiZ NiTcH dat finkz he can topple mah windmillz gib meeh a shout... well im finna step... 'peash'

-- Anonymous, September 09, 2001

well... looks like another war..

'regards to the lives wasted'

-- Anonymous, September 11, 2001

wheres the PLUR?...

-- Anonymous, September 11, 2001

WTF is PLUR? =/

-- Anonymous, September 13, 2001

On a dumbass scale... 1 to 10... 10 being the highest, u would hab to be an 11.

-- Anonymous, September 13, 2001

Guys i dun believe u do need drugs to make u a better dance u feel da beats and u just go wiv wot u feel is good...... um wots plur soz im a new b and um can any1 give me any dance tips i tried wot u lot sed and i look like a dumb ass even in my mirror i look crap:( help me plz email me or chat to me on msn thanx guys your the best bye respect

-- Anonymous, September 14, 2001

Aye sup peepz... It doesn't matter iph yooh dooh drugs or not.. k? jus do wut makez u feel good, n iph doin drugs makez u feel good, okey, n iph not doin drugz makez u fell good, then okey... it doesn't matter.. same thing with sexuality, iph yer gay... okey(jus dun say nastey shiet), iph ur straight... okey.. jus dun hate... which is wut P.L.U.R. is... Peace Love Unity Respect... i do jus bout every dance style... Breaking, Popping, Raving, Wave....name it, i prolly ghot it.. im on all sides, so don't say shiet lyke 'raving is gay' or 'breaking is gay' cuz to meeh, iph u say one style ish gay, u ish callin all style ob dancing gay. show the PLUR.. expecially in this time of morn... live a little... learn to make home made pancakes... learn to fish, take pictures of everything, write down all the good things... thas wut i hav to say... God bless... keep the PLUR..... Peace out....

-- Anonymous, September 14, 2001

After reading all this negativity on this page i think this is why we have been attacked i beleive in PLUR and hope thatit reaches out to everyone of every race..I feel for those who have lost loved ones..but i am also pleased to see that in these times we all come together to help each other..people of all races, sex prefrences it doesnt matter right now all that matters is that we stick together and keep Peace Love Unity and Respect alive...

-- Anonymous, September 16, 2001

exactly.. i feel yer drif... but to add on to that... starting stuff is just as bad as hating.. so don't start stoopid things when u already know it'll make other peepz mad... point made.... point taken?... well to cheer u ppl up... heres a little joke: How do trees ghet on the internet?

they LOG on.... hahahaha... conservation of PLUR peepz... God bless... peez out

-- Anonymous, September 16, 2001

YO! WHITE PERSON! DO YOU KNOW THAT YOU SUCK? WELL, IF YOU DIDN'T...KNOW YOU KNOW. I'VE BEEN RAVING FOR 4 YEARS NOW AND IT IS HELLA TIGHT. JUST DROP THAT E AND GO DO IT. THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN "LEARN" FROM ANYONE. YOU GOTTA HAVE YOUR OWN STYLE TO SUCCEED IN THE RAVE WORLD. PEOPLE BE CIRCLING AROUND ME AND MY CREW ALL THE TIME WATCHING US RAVE AND ASKING US HOW WE BUST OUT OUR TIGHT-ASS MOVES. I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING.....DROP E AND GRAB A COUPLE OF GLOW STIX AND JUST DO IT. IF YOU FOLLOW MY STEPS...YOU'LL BE DOING IT IN NO TIME. WHAT IS IT WITH ONLY "LIQUID" MAN......DON'T YOU SORRY ASS PEOPLE KNOW THAT THERE ARE TIGHTER MOVES OUT THERE LIKE THE: FIGURE 8, THE BOX, GRAVITY BALL, NORDICTRACK, AND THE TIGHTES MOVE OF ALL MADE UP BY ME AND MY CREW....THE "RAVER'S DELIGHT". IF YOU WANNA RULE THE RAVING WORLD....YOU GOTTA LEARN THESE MOVES AND DO THEM. SOME PEOPLE EVEN CHALLENGE ME AND MY CREW SOMETIMES AND WE BATTLE. THEY ONLY KNOW "LIQUID" SO THEY SUCK. PEOPLE ALWAYS LOSE TO US. SOME PEOPLE JUST GET SO CAUGHT UP IN DOING "LIQUID" ALL THE TIME THAT THEY DON'T REALIZE THERE ARE MUCH BETTER MOVES OUT THERE......STUPID WHITE PEOPLE ONLY KNOW "LIQUID"......YA'LL NEED TO LEARN THE MOVES THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER FROM THE AZN PEOPLE.....WE REALLY KNOW HOW TO RAVE. WE ALWAYS BEAT YO ASSES AT RAVING MAN. SO I TELL YA NOW.....JUST DROP THAT E AND DO IT, AIGHT? COOL. WELL, HOPE EVERYTHING WORKS OUT FOR YOU IN THE RAVING WORLD. I'M OUT NOW YO. WATCH OUT FOR US....THE LIQUID STYLEZ CREW OF CENTRAL CALI. WE BE REPPIN' IT NATIONWYDE. PEACE. "HARDCORE RAVERS LIVE GOOD LIVES!"-QUOTED BY ME, SO NONE OF YA STUPID WHITE BOY BITERS BETTER NOT BE BITING ON MY AZN SHIT!

-- Anonymous, September 17, 2001

wtf

go and watch try it yourself get a shitload of cds, and blast them thru your apartment, and dance then invite friends then go to parties drugs are NOT important to rave

believe me

and most of all

I AM SIMPLETON

I NO LIKE COMPLICATION

THE SAME IN MUSIC

rave.

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2001

Hey, I went ravin last nite. My first time ever. I've never tried dancin B4. I jus got in, closed my eyes, and felt the music flow through my body. It gave me a great sensation throughout my body. I couldn't stop once I started. Sweat was pourin' off of me. L8r dBRO

Take drugs, rape sluts, & make fun @ gay clubs

-- Anonymous, September 22, 2001

You learn to dance by asking others how they dance... It all apart of the sharing... I'm a suck... I know... But I can Feel the love... Dance like a e-tard or never dance like your fifty year old retarded uncle...

your choice...

-- Anonymous, October 05, 2001

I just started liquiding about 3 months ago i feel that you have to create your own moves be orginal and dance like no one's looking ! Go by this and you will be very surprised on how good you get and fast!

-- Anonymous, October 06, 2001

All of yu are wrong ppl!! This is the best way of learning rave, first learn to step your feet at the same time as the bass of the music or slide your feet around the ground without pick it up. When u get the hek of it u could just used your hand to do any kind of style u wan. When u are very good at this u could now try liqu rave!!!! This is how u become a good raver!!

-- Anonymous, October 07, 2001

Yeah i was just wanting to know if yall raving peeps out there would teach me some stuff all i know is a little liquid and a figure 8 please help me become a better raver

-- Anonymous, October 10, 2001

* i wan learnn s0me new thanggz like poppin n shii . . ne0ne in da 209 area dat will help me 0utt .. hit me up er some shi .. take care ya'lL

*~P*L*U*R~*

-- Anonymous, October 13, 2001

hello everyone, ive been reading a lot of your answers and most of u have the idea. DONT COPY OTHER STYLES!!! thats your first lesson. 2nd lesson, put down your cheesy ass glow sticks!. i go to all these clubs and see everyone with the same color sticks, same figure 8 spin thing and no movment. whats up with that? be creative! let the music set you free, move your body for god sakes! liquid looks better without glowsticks anyway. but if u really want some tips plurfessor can help... TRICKS & TIPS: 1.PLAY FOLLOW THE LEADER WITH YOUR HANDS. 2.LEGS ARE AS IMPORTANT AS YOUR AMRS! 3.EVER SEE A MIME? ...PRETEND YOUR A MIME! 4.THROW AN ARM BEHIND YOUR HEAD ONCE IN A WHILE 5.FEEL THE BEAT LOVE THE BEAT, LIVE THE BEAT 6.FAST CIRCLES ARE NICE <0-IF UR dancin with g/sticks. 7. take the figure 8 to new hights! spin it backwards, around your head,..etc. (make shit up as you go) 8.a long pair of socks in a blacklight is cool too. 9. ur still reading this???...ouch. PEACE LOVE UNITY RESPECT RESPONSIBILITY THA PLURFESSOR LOVEZ U ALL KEEP ON DANCIN! AND REMEMBER ITS NOT OVER TILL THE LAST RECORD SPINS!

-- Anonymous, October 22, 2001

((((((((((((( Liquid_raver )))))))))))))))))

-- Anonymous, October 28, 2001

Well this isnt an answer more like a question. I try to rave and my friend says i dont have rythm but i dont understand. i try to move the way the music sounds but i just dont see it. can you help?

-- Anonymous, October 29, 2001

Hey sweetie.........I tend to agree with most of these peeps.....there really is no one way to dance. Its a vibe. Feel the music, let it flow thru you, as soon as you know it, your whole body is groovin'. Liquid does look cool and is fun ( and, yes, addictive ) at times. If ya wanna perfect it, sure, obviously practice. However, don't feel obligated to only dance liquid at a rave. Dance any way you want! Again, everyone is in his/her own mode and vibe ( or pill ) and won't even recognize yer dancin' style. You'll flow with the whole damn party.......Hell, it all becomes one whole giantic cosmic catalyst vibe for the whole damn place in the broader scope of things! Hehe. No worries, just have fun. One love. P.L.U.R. *~*~* Play Safe Live Life Embrace Passion Rave On *~*~*

Anyone wants to drop me a line.....feel free. =)

-- Anonymous, October 30, 2001

so dumb, all of you are so dumb, the damn kid just wanted a good website to learn some basic glowsticking moves..........and all this bullshit came from it

-- Anonymous, November 02, 2001

omg I agree with the last reply... this is STUPID!!! omg... 1st of all you DON"T NEED DRUGS TO DANCE!!! friggin hell~ All the fuked up ppl rollin their balls off only think they can dance because they're so fukin high outta their minds, anything looks good to them.. The best dancers I know don't do drugs, and they just learnt from practicing to the music.... neways... yea, jus practice and let your body be the music.. it'll come to you pretty naturally... good luck

-- Anonymous, November 06, 2001

i also agree i just wanna learn some more moves and the dick head who "made" this fucked up site has put a load of bull shit on it....... thanks 4 nutin fyucking cock eds................. peace

-- Anonymous, November 07, 2001

well bro all i can say is that raving comes out natural just go to the dance floor and shake it ,break it, move it all around.Have fun with it,dance in front of a mirror if youre not sure of what youre doing and practice,grab a couple of glow stix and have fun with it.groove to the beat of the music that is playing.(REMEMBER THAT THE WORST THING YOU CAN DO AT A RAVE IS JUST STAND AROUND,SO JUST GET UP,GET UP,PUT YOURE BODY IN MOTION, GET UP,GET UP AND PARTY!! GOOD LUCK,AND PEACE OUT. W.C.R (WEST.COAST.RAVERS.)

-- Anonymous, November 11, 2001

YoU pUt oN yOuR UFOs aNd maGiKaLLy thE vibEs JuS sEEm tO fLoW thRu yOu...

***LMFAO*** sorry for ^^ that jaded ass response...

...well, not really. hahahaha. get a life kid, nothing can teach to you dance but practice.

-- Anonymous, November 16, 2001

i cant believe you guys are still answering to that post from 2 years ago.......

-- Anonymous, November 19, 2001

Hey everyone, I'm new to this whole scene. I love raving, but I've never tried rolling. I'm hesitant because I'm scared. What do you think? Does it really make that much of a difference if your rolling or not? Everyone says it does...what should I do to get over my fear?

-- Anonymous, November 21, 2001

hey if you want to learn how to rave do what I did ask some one that knows how to rave to teach you most ravers will be hapy to sare what the know and If you cant the yust dance how ever you want Its all good `

-- Anonymous, November 21, 2001

hey just do what is in your heart. we dont care how you dance. its just if your trying to be cool your doing it for the wrong way. sticking come from the heart and the mind. if your true to those things every thing will come in place. if you wana learn. learn the basics then add your flava any you are an origenal. rember true to yourself and everything will fallow. peace,love,unity, respect

-- Anonymous, November 23, 2001

whut up everyone... yo listen man im a newbie in this whole rave scene my first rave was on like september 28th or somin and it was the 1st time i took e too... true i was really embarresd to dance but man once that music and e hits you your in paradise you just take some glowsticks and move them to the beat ... just feel it... i learned from my freinds watching other people and looking at videos of people glowsticking.... but like i said just go with the music ... be the music and have a fucking good time .... youll learn quickly and youll have a good time doing it .... but be for warned people might find you annoying lol cause once you get into it youll be doing it everywhere... aight i have nothing more to say but... be safe practice and have a good time.... iight im out peace

(if anyone wants to chat sometime just im me or email me)

P.L.U.R

1

-- Anonymous, November 25, 2001

THE BEST ADVISE U CAN GET ABOUT LEARNING HOW TO DANCE IS ..... dont care about what your doing just feel the music dont worry about how "stupid" you look ... because you dont look stupid ... when im doin some poppin ... and i look at myself doin it ... it dont look all that great ... but when im at a rave or somewhere.... and people watch me ... they will gather around me and just be amazed..... its just your perspective.... get somebody to record 1 of your sessions... or just record yourself... and then u will c just how good you really are ....

GOIN TO A RAVE IN FL ... U MIGHT C ME >..... GIMMIE A HOLLA IF U LIVE IN THE FL AREA

-- Anonymous, November 29, 2001

raving easy fool. all you goutza do is learn to move quick and watch your friends. what i do is i attach shoe laces lol to da rave sticks then do some shit, then after that i grab the sticks and like spell blood real fast then just move the maround and shit.

-- Anonymous, November 29, 2001

My Advice for you is to listen to all of the messages before mine...

-- Anonymous, November 29, 2001

To all of the new "ravers"-glowsticks are not cool, flashing bicycle lights suck, and those laser pen light things are stupid. THose who eat pills at parties and dance around like morons and then rub your sweaty bodies on other people-would you be there if the drugs weren't??? It's about the music. Period. E and glowsticks are the reason parties are illegal and Dateline airs shows about them. And my advice about dancing, avoid the raver hop (you know what I'm talking about). YOu should have style and look good. You should care what you look like. Practice at home until you know you look good. I know, I'm jadded.

-- Anonymous, November 30, 2001

sup peepoes...raving beeh da shiet...thea ain't no rulez ass tue how yue should rave...itx all in yur soul...express yurself wif raving...it ain't about how good it may look 'n' shiet...itx about yue, yourself...and yue again...itx all in yur head...create yur own style...yue don't gotx tue beeh lyke others...they beeh expressing their own individualitie...yue should do da same thang too...and just go wif da flow...peace out...and much luv hea tue mah babeee...loverz yue foe lyfe...jmwl...*muaks*...

-- Anonymous, November 30, 2001

You stick your hands up in da air, stick your tounge out, stick your boner out, open your legs,make your head fuqed up, roll on da ground in front of your date, and lick the floor. Works likea charm

-- Anonymous, December 01, 2001

I believe that you should just learn on your own, thats the best way, dont copy people cus then u r a pooser, dont be a pooser damnit ok

-- Anonymous, December 03, 2001

listen up i'm not no expert at rav'n or not'n but to learn its simple MAKE UP YOUR OWN STUFF and never copy other people's style cause you'll look dumb. plus someone EMAIL ME!!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, December 03, 2001

ALL U DUMB ASIANS ARE STUPID I KNOW HOW TO RAVE!!! I DONT KNOW HOW TO DO LIQUID BUT I KNOPW HOW TO DO CIRCLES WID GLOW STICKS!!! I DONT TAKE xtc BUT I USUALLY JUST TAKE TYLONOL CUZ IT LOOKS THE SAME AND ALL...MY HIGH TAKES USUALLY COUPLE HOURS BUT WHEN I FEEL IT I FEEL LIKE IM FLOATING...THEN I LIKE TO DO THIS ONE MOVE THAT ATTRACKS ALL THE GIRLS...I PULL MY PANTS DOWN AND FLASH PEEPZ

-- Anonymous, December 05, 2001

ALL YOU FAGGOTZ BESTA KNOW DAT US AZN PEEPZ BE TEARIN IT UP AT RAVEZ AIGHTY! CAUSE ALL U DONT KNOW SHIET TILL WE ENTER THA RAVE SCENE YOU BE LIKE DYAMNN LOOK AT THOSE AZNS STRUT THERE SHIET, AND SHIET LIKE DAYMNN I WISH I COULD DO DAT. BUT U CANT CAUSE YOUR A FAG. LIQUID,HA! IS DAT ALL YOU KNOW. PSHH... BITCH PLEASE ALL YOU DO ISH LIQUID CAUSE YOU DONT KNO SHIET! AND YOU CANT DO DA CRAZY SHIET LIKE US AZNS CAUSE WE BE GOIN' ALL NIGHTZ WID OUR RICE AND AZN E-BOMB BITCH! OH AND DONT BE TRYIN TAH COPY US CAUSE IF YOU DO WE'LL KUNG-FU YUR ASS! BUT ANYWAYZ JUS DO LOTZ OF DRUGZ N'SHIET AND YOU'LL KNO WUT TRUE RAVIN' ISH ALL ABOUT ONCE YOU GET INTO DAT FIRST TRANCE YOULL BE LIKE OHHH SHIEETTT..!!!! AND IT DONT STOP DERE, IT STARTS

(AZN LADYZ IF YAH SEE MEEZ HOLLAZ I'LL BE IN A RAVING VISER WID LIGHTS ON DEM)

PEACE OUTTYZ

-- Anonymous, December 08, 2001

this is the asian raver!(not to be racest or anything)i can do tons of moves with glowsticks without needing to take drugs.drugs wont help u rave better.it takes a lot of practice and pain!im out yall!

-- Anonymous, December 08, 2001

if u what to learn how to rave. Its simple. Dont go out there and buy a video to learn. Just make it up how every you want. Everyone that raves. they all just make it up. Just flow with the hands and body. U know, make it up.It will take u a minute 2 think of something.Even if people dont like it. Fuck them. Think of it this way. U can do it a they cant.

-- Anonymous, December 10, 2001

Listen, first off raving is many things besides just dancing. Raving is a culture, just as hip-hop is a culture. A good raver will have an open mind. Be accepting of all types of people. Incorporate many different styles of dancing into your "liquid". I have been into the scene since 97 when I was nineteen. I experienced my first rave in the Chicago area. It blew me away. I had grown up in small towns all my life with no culture and closed minds so nothing like this was ever brought to my attention. I knew of the music (although I thought it was all just techno) but didn't realize that there is a whole culture behind raving. I did know about hip-hop culture then and it's four elements of breaking( people seem to prefer saying b-boying nowdays), graffiti art (tagging), djing, and emceeing. I also knew about the flower child culture of the 60's and 70's as my parents were ex-hippies. It ammazed me after a few raves to learn how much these 2 cultures influenced the rave culture. It sort of like a futuristic digital b-boy hippie thing that was going on. unfortunetly that vibe is fading fast and the old schoolers are growing up and getting out of it becuase of that reason. but is that part of the reason? I feel that the old schoolers have a responsibility to try and educate the young ravers to try and keep it like it used to be. It is hard though with all the buisness aspects, politics, and superstar dj attitudes to try and keep it "real". Plur has no meaning anymore and it is sad. It was the fundemental philosiphy of this culture. Remember all you old schoolers when you had a "family" that shit was dope. I don't consider myself to be a old schooler, but i consider myself to apperciate the old school philosiphys. I don't think in th old school days kidz got ripped off on bunk pills hardly at all, an you would never here raver communicatiing thier homophobia and biggotry (as i supprisingly saw communicated on this page) as there would have been none, because true ravers have open minds and accept and love people of all sorts. So I guess how to be a good raver: Take some personal time and study martial arts and dancing of different cultures (tribes, b-boys, even fucking riverdance if you want) and try to incorporate that into your own form with the liquid form. practice.practice.practice. don't be afraid to try something new, as you will learn that way. don't be afraid to dance at a rave, you will not be judged and if you are, the only person that is a good judge of you is you. fuck waht they think if they don'tlike the way you dance. it is about self expression, personal freedom, and having fun. BE ACCEPTING. Try and love and accept all people for who they are wether they are straight or gay, white or black, raver or not (AND NO MR. CLOSED MINDED ADMINISTATOR I AM NOT GAY. I AM A VERY SOUND AND HAPPY HETEROSEXUAL MALE WHO IS NOT STUCK ON HIS HOMOPHOBIA SO BAD HE HAS TO BASH EVERY COMMENT OF HOMOSEXUALITY TO MAKE HIMSELF LOOK LIKE A BAD ASS REDNECK FUCK. YOU ARE PROBABLY THE ONE WHO IS GAY YOU ARE TO AFAID TO ADMIT IT.) even be accepting of those people who are closed minded, but try to help them understand better ways. Drugs are a personal choice for each individual wether they are a raver or not. They can be fun, but also they can be dangerous. Be careful and don't be a hype. Now it is more dangerous than ever to sell or do drugs at a rave because of the negative media coverage. So before you eat a pill, think about you surrounding and if it safe. do you want to be another statistic of an overdose or a kid who got busted selling and risk making this scene die more and be more negativly charged by society. i am not saying "winners don't use", i am saying "winners use common sense and good judgement when using or deciding to use". Be responsible about staying up all night and drivning. Try and crash at a freinds house, or take a cat nap in your car before trying to drive back home. gas sation speed doesn't always work if you have been putting shit up your nose all night. don't make raving a priority, ake it a hobby. school and work should always come first. just be cool. be smart. be accepting, be friendly, try not to act jaded even if you start to feel that way. always educate others. peace................jackson Writer: CIW Magazine Member: UC Hip-Hop Congress

-- Anonymous, December 10, 2001

YO CHILL PEEPS! ASIAN RAVER YOUR THE MAN AND ALSO RIGHT.. YO! I'M WITH THE ASIAN RAVER YOU DONT NEED DRUGS TO KNOW HOW TO DANCE BETTER OR FEEL GOOD OR WHAT EVER YOU GUY COME UP WITH. BUT IF YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW TO DANCE LOOK AT SOMEONE NEXT TO YOU ON THE DANCE FLOOR AND DO WHAT THEY DO OR GO HOME OR TEY TO COME UP WITH SOME MOVES OF YOUR OWN. AND TO THE GUYS THAT ARE TAKING UP ALL THE TYPING SPACE ON FIGHTING ABOUT WHOS GAY OR NOT.. THIS IS A PLACE ON TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW TO DANCE AND TALK ABOUT ALL THE PARTYS THEY CRASHED. "CAN WE ALL JUST GET ALONG.." WELL I'M A DJ AND I CAN SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE PEOPLES THAT DON'T KNOW HOW TO DANCE OOOOOOK.. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WHERE DID DANCING COME FROM IT DIDNT JUST FALL FROM THE SKY AND INTO MY LEGS AND IT JUST DANCE.... PEOPLE THE MOVES ARE MADE UP RAVE WAS MADE UP HIP-HOP WAS MADE UP FUNK, BREAK, AND ALL THAT GOOOOOOOOD STUUUUUFFF WAS MADE UP.. IF YOU COME UP WITH A MOVE THAT LOOKS HOTT WITH OR WITH OUT GLOW STICKS THEN GET ON THE DANCE FLOOR AND DO IT... HEY! WHO KNOWS YOU JUST MIGHT COME OUT WITH A NEW DANCE AND GIVE IT A NAME YOUR SELF... PEOPLE RAVE, JUMP, BREAK TIL YOU CAN'T NO MORE. ASINA RAVER KEEP YOUR GLOW STICKS UP AND THE SAME TO THE PEOPLE THAT DONT KNOW HOW TO RAVE...

FROM: DJ BLACK~DRAGON

-- Anonymous, December 11, 2001

man whas wit some of u peopl, u talk too fuckin much, "ooh im better" SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU WHINEY ASS MOTHER FUCKERS, you disrespect true rave culture, all you do is bitch about who's better, who gives a FUCK!!?? no one, so shut the fuck up and dance and quit bitchin about what's ravin and whats not and just fuckin do it.

-- Anonymous, December 12, 2001

THAT GUY REALLY LET OUT A LOT OF STEEEEEEEEEEEMMMMMMM.. I HOPE HIS GIRL IS GOING TO GIVE IT UP TO HIM NOW....... LOL.

(YO! ITS JUST A JOKE!) YOUR RITE.. JUST SHUT UP, GET UP AND DANCE.. "YOU SEE HOW E-Z THAT IS." I COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT OOOPS! TYPE IT ANY BETTER.. YOUR THE MAN!!!

DJ BLACK~DRAGON

-- Anonymous, December 12, 2001

MAN ALL YA PEOPLE ARE SOME FAKE ASS NIGAZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YA AINT TALKING ABOUT SHIT GO TO ROXY AND RAVE UP IN THAT BITCH TAKE YOU ABOUT 3 AND THEN YOU WILL BE ROLLING AND DO YOUR BITCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PEACE OUT

-- Anonymous, December 17, 2001

Yo ppl help me out too... i need to learn to rave!

-- Anonymous, December 18, 2001

YOU GUYZ ALL TALK BOUT MUSIC... SUGGEST SOME MUSIC FO ME 2 START A BEAT 2!?!? I CANT FIND GOOD MUSIC THAT'll LAST LONG AND BE ABLE 2 GET INTO.... ANY SUGGESTIONZ?! plz email meh! I NEED MUSIC!!!!

-- Anonymous, December 18, 2001

ALL YOU CATS ARE FUKIN AWESOME! this is why i got into this scene in the first place, u guyz r the only real ppl out there. spread the love and rave to ur own fukin beat!!!!

-- Anonymous, December 19, 2001

AYe WUsSUp FooHS... All I GOtTa Say ISH Dat rAvInG AIN'T hArd aNd Shiet, All You HaVe TO KnoW IsH Dat YOu HaVe TO LiSTEN TO THe MuSIC ANd REmaIn RelAx... If U TRY "XtC," DO It BecaUse YOu WaNt TO, Not FOr THe EnJoyMeNt Of OtHerS. I DUn'T RaVe NoMORe, I GO TO HaVe A GOoD TIMe. YeS... XtC CamE InTO MaH LiFe, BUt I DOn't DO It A LOT! What I Am TryIng TO Say IsH BeEH CarEFUl, CausE I T AffeCTS YOu In THe LoNg RuN aNd SHiEt. SO YeAh... TO Let You Know, There Is No RiGHt Or WRoNg RavINg, BeCause EveRYOne Has DiFfeRenT TyPes Of RavInG, And TruSt Me, YOu WIll TO... IF You WanT tO kNOw Mah OpinIon... PlEaSe Hit MeEh Up At MaRyJaNe42066@aol.com... DUnT HeSisTaTe AIiGHt PeOplE! RemEmbEr, YOu GUyS aRe All MaH PeopS, I DUNt HaTe, JuST COnGraDuLaTe... Hit It Up AIiGHt,

JoN AkA GoFFIe

p.S. LaCatEd In Ur LoKaL 408 Of EaSTsiDe San JosE!

-- Anonymous, December 19, 2001

STOP WITH ALL THE BIGGOTRY

-- Anonymous, December 21, 2001

shout outs to jackson's reply and contribution to this discusion on 12/10/01 the most positive thing I've read in the hour or more spent reading all the stupidity some people wrote here...Word! and to all those who wanna rave/break dance and need help, you have to start some where...so in the begining start by imitating or copying (for everybody has an idol or mentor in any hobbie or sport), once you get some basics like rythm, cordination, (timing), then progress to the flow and speed of your moves, finally you will be able to find or create your own style or moves, this goes for all fisical training; dancing , martial arts, skateboarding, etc. taking drugs is only a way to lose your inhibitions or shyness, and sometimes opens your mind to creativity, but not necesarily. if you don't feel the music, maybe your going to raves for the wrong reasons, you really have to like the music so you can want to go on the floor and let go. if it doesn't motivate you maybe your going to raves cause is the trendy thing everybody else is doing, and not cause the music drives you. as far as gimicktry (i.e. glowsticks, pois, gloves , staffs, lights ,etc) they are only an extension of the hand for more self expresion.there is a page I found in searchalot called "cool stuff"plenty of glowstick videos, also"epartyunlimited.com" has a video called "Glowsticking", and theres a site called "bustamove.com" nice dancemoves for clubbing,and finally search for "breakdance"and you will find lots of sites with videos on breaking, poping, electic boogie, etc...goodluck and PLUR from a 40 years young DJ and raver.

-- Anonymous, December 22, 2001

P.L.U.R to all you people out there. ANyways about the "rave dance" I assume you're talking about liquid. As many people said, YOU DONT HAVE TO BE FUCKED UP TO LEARN. I learned sober. I haven't been hitting the rave scene that long but when I liquid when I'm on E (never done LSD) i assume I'm better cuz I'm all wired and going really fast but I'm not sure. The key is to listen to the beat, don't just listen to it, feel it and move to it. Liquid is pretty easy and just takes practice. GLowsticks do help because you can see if your hands are following each other smoothly. But just pretend that all your fingers on one hand is attached to their brother finger on the other hand by strings. Your fingers should follow each other. Try doing a figure 8 and put some spins on your liquid. and YES LIQUID IS ADDICTING. I probably look like an idiot at school and everywhere I go, because I'm always doing it when I walk, sit, or whatever. Anyways good luck man, and remember to practice and don't copy people's moves. PLUR

-- Anonymous, December 22, 2001

Welp noone probably even reads the responses anymore seeing as this person asked this in 99 .. hopefully they've learned by now. ... but if not. .. Lemme let ya know something .. I would watch people at raves and they would tell me to get up and dance and I told them I didn't know how , A few days later, I put on some Dj Encore and Paul Oakenfold jams and tried stomping in my bedroom . hey and I think I looked pretty tight. I am still working on the liquid though, i don't think I have enough eye hand cordination but I can do some bad azz siet with photon lights!! Welp just get up .. put on a bad ass goa trance song, feel it and dance! theres no 'right' way to dance to trance, no matter what you do (unless you have no rhythm whatsoever) you'll look pretty tite! Welp P.L.U.R to all mah ravas!!! Houston TX JeNi

-- Anonymous, December 22, 2001

Go for the music. That is one thing you have to learn to love first. The music. After that if you wanna have a hit or whatever, go for it. The music is what will set you freee if you listen take your body and flow with the music, trust me. It will set you free. Like everyone said, make up your own moves. It is all about getting out there and showing people you are not afraid. Like some people say, jus take you hands and do a wave motion with them. Then start to move your arms apart. I can't explain it, you will learn, and you will love it. It is a great enviorment. So start off with the music. Learn to love the music, then go from there. You can do it!!

Peace out.....Chavi

-- Anonymous, December 23, 2001

You don't really need to take any drugs if you can get sort of a natural high from the trance... but you do get tired really fast if your body isn't zapped on all those chemicals. But to start glowstix with hands, put your hands together, make an 8, twist your hands a bit, separate them. With strings,,, well, everyone improvs their own moves... be creative :) just don't hit anyone Have fun

-- Anonymous, December 24, 2001

I agree that you don't need to take the chemicals, but you'd be surprised how long such a "trance buzz" can take you.. i've run off of one for 2 days (that was crazy).. but i continued to listen to trance.. it wears off if you stop listening for a while.. and if you keep dancing you get a buzz too - when you dance, your body pumps endorphins in your system (the natural happy drug) and you get happy and energized... so keep moving and let the music move you........ PLUR -Alex Ferguson

-- Anonymous, December 24, 2001

wtf are u people still posting to a message thats 2 fawking years old goddamn

-- Anonymous, December 27, 2001

First of all!

Get the basics. go to raves, and find the style your most interested in (popping, locking, flowing, breaking, etc). get up and try it. the whole reason these forms of dancing exist is for you to enjoy yurself. so just get out there and do it.

Here are some hints; don't copy one specific sytle of one person. try to make your pallette large and intertwine the moves you love. second of all. don't be scared, everyone starts from somewhere.

just remember; it's all about the motion.

-- Anonymous, December 28, 2001

yeah i couldn't dance for nothin'.. last night i went to D.J. Dan.. his beatz hit me.. i got off my ass and was totally takin' in by him.. i can't stop dancing.. my mom is freakin'.. i come in at 8:ooam, dancing.. catch a nap.. dance around the living room, liquid down the hall.. she's madd confussed i'm convinced... all it takes.. 3 rolls *ferrari*.. and D.J. Dan

-- Anonymous, December 29, 2001

omg, i cant believe ppls even wanna dance like i used to do,eheheh.its a trip but i tried all the following like video tapin,in front of mirrow,everything.now that i no how to dance im gonna tell all yal to take a short cut not like me , it took me 3 years to be where i am.first u gonnna let it all loose n dance alll out even if u r stupid. thats to get your fear of lookin stupid out.than i would recommend u to stick with a style because there is alottttt.if u stick with 1 u wont go crazy like me,n if u dont break dance it easier to learn 1 style only. than the rest is to ask some1 who dance rite to teach u a move or 2 than remember it. u have to learn more move to add to your combo. but the basic is the beat. for example u have to jump everytime the base hits. from there alot of practice. so there is a way to dance rite n it look trippy n the rest is wrong actin like a drunk.

-- Anonymous, December 29, 2001

sup peeps if you freal wan know how to dance email me and when i stated to dance it was the best i shoued my self and know i rock at partes

-- Anonymous, December 30, 2001

you get stoned!

-- Anonymous, January 01, 2002

its not about the drug aspect.. you just have to let go of your fears.. close your eyes, and feel the beats flow through your body.. dont worry about hwat others may be thinking about how u look just think about how good it sounds and feels as u do it..

TriKz

-- Anonymous, January 02, 2002

To feel the music, you have to pop the pill. The pill of choice would have to be **Green Triangles** or **Blue Skittles** ya'll need to try them cuz they are bomb when you go to the club. Peace out motha fucka!!

-- Anonymous, January 05, 2002

you just...dance! (drugs help too) (liquid isn't the only way to dance; am I oldskool or what?!?!)

-- Anonymous, January 05, 2002

i dont really have a responce but i would also like to learn how to reave the easyist way i alresy know how to do some but it just gets really confusing to me so if any one hase any ideas plz email me or if u live in calgary and know how to liquid or what ever plz email me PeaCHess666@hotmail.com or apatchi@hotmail.com thax u

with love PeaCHess

-- Anonymous, January 06, 2002

I know thats right JeNi!

Its been a long time since I posted that message and I've gotten some real dumb responses, most of them I don't even read them.

back in '99 there weren't that many places here in Dallas, TX to hang out and dance to the electronic dance vibe, but I'm glad that its not becaming more popular now, I'm also became pretty good dancing with and without glowsticks or whatever I still couldn't ever find any videos ehe eheh eh eh..

hey guys thanks for your responses. and pls let me know about any raves in Texas.

peace out, and enjoy whatever u do to the fullest.

Albert

-- Anonymous, January 06, 2002

"not" that was a typo in the previous message. I love electronica and the rave scene.

Albert

-- Anonymous, January 06, 2002

YO WAT UP PEEPZ I THINK RAVING IS THE BOMB U DONT REALY NEED TO BE THE BEST JUST GO WITH THE FLOW AND U WILL GET THERE,, I ALSO THINK THAT LIQUID IS THE BEST WAY OF EXPRESING YOUR SELF IN THE DANCE FLOO.. KNOW WAT IM SAYN.. REMEMBE YUST DO WHAT U GOTTA DO AND DONT WORRY ABOUT THE MOTHE FUCKES THAT MIGH LAFT AT U... YUST RIP IT....

-- Anonymous, January 08, 2002

yo!!!raven is the best if your just starten don't listen n e one just watch other ppl n do what they do n u will get it just take your time go to clubs like ilusions that's how i learned just go with the flow n u will get it peace.............

-- Anonymous, January 08, 2002

sup,yall, well ravin is really easy, just watch some people doing it, and if ur lucky, one of ur friends will teach ya the basics, never say u cant do it, its easy, and in bout a 2 months ull get it. i only been ravin for a year, and im ok so far, but if u want, just keep goin ight.

HOllA

-- Anonymous, January 08, 2002

um..raving is really easy..lol actually i dont no becuase i cant rave..well any wayz..if uwanna learn now to rave, watch cris he knowz how to rave good..well thatz all i gotta say bi bi [oh yeah and go to illusions u can find cris there ] lol luv ya cris~ <3

-- Anonymous, January 08, 2002

Hhi again...i for got that yahya is a good raver too and watch him if u wanna no how to rave...lol ok yahya? i luv u too yahya <3

-- Anonymous, January 08, 2002

listen up kiddies because me and hektic are the best rave dancers in the galaxy...we have been doing it since 1990.. in fact we probably created it... if you are a beginer here's what you do.....leave your pants at home all you need on is a pair of diapers... baby rattles in your hands and a pacifier in your mouth, stand in front of someone who looks like there on 6 hits of E (which will probably be just about everyone)and start shaking baby....trust me you'll be a big hit with the chicks...later ravers.

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2002

Well i just got into raving like a week ago and i must say to yourslef you can't dance but to everyone else you can..I know how addicting it is my friend and i were listening to techno at school and we were liquiding ...As i left the school i put my walkman on and started doing my dance walking home from school. NOW i am 18 and i am in 11th grade but to see the looks on peoples faces were amazing...SO don't worry what people think of you...

here are a few rave tips...take rubber bands and tie them to your fingures move your hands like a wave...or my speacialty ..i take my right hand or what ever hand you write with and make it go like a am doing a yo yo. It's kinda funny but cool if you can keep up with that..then take your left hand or what ever hand you write with and move it in a wave ..spin it all around and if you can do this try spinning over your head ..faster to the beat..The Heart Grab walk up to someone and go to there chest and pull out there heart make your hands throbbing motions then take your other hand and pretend you are rolling a ball in your hand spin it around and show them to there face...put it back it amazing...Now some people like to trip before raving ..i am straight edge and trust i go for the music and lights not the drugs.....

Peace Out Goodluck DJ CELX

-- Anonymous, January 11, 2002

Wow! umm really i just picked up on rave danceing so my advice to you would be to mimmic other ppl an go to breakdance.com they have alot of cool shit on how to break, tic an wave. that site is off the shiiznit....

Any breakers or ravers in the atl area juanna holla you know mah e- mail PEACE

-- Anonymous, January 12, 2002

Hey thanks i'll go to that site... Liquiding reduces Artritist and also stress.....Bew oe

-- Anonymous, January 12, 2002

well i wanna learn how to use the glow sticks while danceing

-- Anonymous, January 14, 2002

ok to use glow sticks while dancing uhave to get a medium sized one breakit and put it between ur middle finger and under ur ring finger then over ur pinkey trust me this realy works and it gives the coolest effect. have fun

-- Anonymous, January 17, 2002

HEY FRIENDS,

I THINK THAT ONE SHOULD JUST MOVE HOW THE BEAT TELLS THEM TOO. DON'T BE AFRAID OF WHAT OTHERS THINK THIS IS WHERE PLUR COMES IN TO PLAY (THE R- FOR RESPECT). i HAVE BEEN IN THE SCENCE FOR SOMETIME NOW AND HAVE SEEN THE THE GOOD AND THE BAD BUT WHAT IS TRULY IMPORTANT IS THAT YOU ENJOY YOURSELF AND FIND SOMETHING ABOUT YOURSELF OR AT LEAST TAKE SOMETHING AWAY THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE NEVER KNOW BEFORE. DANCING COME FROM THE HEART IT EXPRESSES YOUR PERSONALITY, IT IS A WAY FOR POEPLE TO OBSEVERE YOUR FEELING TOWARDS THE BEAT. WELL TAKE CARE ALL AND BE SAFE PLUR "SQUARE"

-- Anonymous, January 19, 2002

I used to wonder about the same thing, "how can I dance like all the rest of those people on the floor?" Well it's easy, YOU DON'T HAVE TO!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have been goin' to parties in NY,MA,CT,PA and one in CA for a year now, and I have yet to find a sngle person that dances like me, any real raver will tell you that there is no one way to dance to the music, you dance how the music makes you dance! Bombs help in the beginning I guess, but its all about the vibes you pick up from the music you hear. Peace Love Unity Respect isn't just a saying, it's a way of life. HAVE FUN, if you're not then you shouldn't go! Dance to the music the way the music makes your feet and body move!!!!!!! much love, Mike

-- Anonymous, January 20, 2002

You gotta feel the beat first, at least I do. I stand off to one side with my hands loosely at my side watchin' others. I'm tappin' my hands against the outside of my thighs with the beat until I feel in tune. Then I start tappin my feet an' swayin a bit, still with my hands goin. After 10 minuntes or so I feel I'm in tune wid 't music an my bod is movin by itself. Then I amplify my movements. Maybe summat I see gets incorporated, maybe it's a mixture. Whatever, by the time 20 mins has passed I'm freakin' out with the rest an the best of 'em. But don't feel self-conscious, peeps really aren't judgemental - if they are, their opinion is worthless, 'cos they aint got plur! This is Children of Kaos speakin', so it's true!!! www.chillout.to for more...

-- Anonymous, January 20, 2002

look...I don't know if this will help, but do some searches on the net for Liquid Pop Collective...I'm not sure what you may find, but they are well known. They DO have a video if you are that worried about it...but it's gonna cost ya! ;)

-- Anonymous, January 22, 2002

!!!!!!READ ME PLEASE!!! I see people dancing @ raves and one dance they do is called the "rave" i think, its when they stand in a circle and have a pretend ball and throw it 2 each other and do different things with it, i was wondering what this dance was actually called and what the song they do it to is called, thanks Jake

-- Anonymous, January 23, 2002

U people are dumb for doing ecstacy. u r fudge packin homo's, bitches .

-- Anonymous, January 25, 2002

hi all u bitches hos dont do exstacy and if u do u r a fudge packin homo

-- Anonymous, January 25, 2002

Rave dance?? as in the Liquid? if it is that then it is exactly what it sounds like. try to be as humanly liquid as possible and like the last 300+ people or so said, its all about the lights and the music. if your in to the big E then go for it but i am always clean and i have a great time without rolling. all i have to say is get glowsticks and maybe some shoelaces if you want to slap yourself silly with the damn glowstick strapped to the end of em, and just flow like there is no tomorrow. i promise that no one will say anything to you, but if they do they shouldn't be there because the rave is all about acceptance. peace

-ice wizzard-

-- Anonymous, January 27, 2002

okay umm for all u "RAVERS" hahahaha ur thoughts make me laugh! okay ive now been partying/raving for about 2 1/2 yrs now and to learn to dance.... there is no way. go out onto a dance floor when u hear a good beat and let ur emotions go into ur dancing! its simple. and as for your answers on e uhhh okay! i do it... i can admit i dont do 1/2 as often as i did before because i learnt but everyone learns from mistakes, u were asking about the ppl throwing around the fake ball. well thats also liquid. i see lots of ppl doing it single just bouncing air up and down. liquid is the hardest way of "rave" dancing. it combines ur flexibility creativity and patience together, mostly u see ppl wearing white gloves standing under black lights liquiding (white gloves underblack light give the effect of the persons hands being liquid). well im done, AND FOR U PPL WHO THINK U KNOW SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!! *done* p.s. anyone wanna argue over this just email me

-- Anonymous, January 31, 2002

okay i totally agree with xtc_sweetiE!!! raving isnt about following others, its about emotions and feelings put into movements. and liquiding... takes long hours of practice and lots of patience!!! ive been liquiding for about 1 yr now, took about 5 months to actually be able to look good. if anyone wants info or help on liquiding though just email me. although im not an american or been to an american rave, im sure its all the same... n e ways candians were topped #1 club/hiphop/break dancers... so u need help i got answers. KandI

-- Anonymous, January 31, 2002

yo I know it's best to feel you own beat to the music and all and watch other dancers at clubs or whatever, but does anyone still know of any websites that teach you or at least has some sort of videos??? let me know...lata

-- Anonymous, January 31, 2002

osama yo mamma...sowwiez just got bored (^_^)

-- Anonymous, January 31, 2002

alright, when i went to my first rave i was soooooo embarresed to dance, but once i dropped my pill i just felt the music become one w/ me and i just danced what i felt. and even if you dont roll, you can still dance, you just have to feel the music inside you. and trust me, no one will care what you look like because mostely everybody is rollin and they understand where your coming from...alright?? later...

-- Anonymous, February 03, 2002

ok fuck, i live in the shitiest place and there arent any raves so whats some site or video or some shit that i can watch people doin this shit. email me

-- Anonymous, February 06, 2002

Sound In Motion

I may not look cool in normal life. I don’t tend to like what is in style in Main Stream America. You look down on me as wasted youth. Even people my age don’t think I’m right. You know what though, There are millions of us. I know you have heard about the Friday and Saturday from dusk till dawn all night Dance Parties. Were the gathering rolls from room to room. Looking for that DJ to give them their high, their fix. Their addiction must be feed. But not just from the DJ. They are cannibals; they feed off each other through out the wave of the night. Looking for the little round pill to put them on autopilot. But it’s not just about the high. It’s the voyage you take and how you get from point A to point B. I can get fucked up at home this is different. These are my brothers and sisters, girlfriends and boyfriends, with one common goal. “To lose our selves in a sea of music and dance.” You may say I’m crazy, legally insane from all the drugs I have done. I’m not a textbook case though. I don’t do it to feel better about my self, make me happy, or look cool. That’s just a side affect. I do it to make my liquid, Art In Motion. My hands are so tight and precise they look loose. It’s harder than it looks. You think I’m dancing. Hell no. I’m practicing, looking and waiting for the right time in the night to battle. Were the music hits my soul just right and I see some one that is already there and they pull me in. They don’t know it. They don’t even see it coming. Till they end their session and I step in to lay down the law. Slow at first. I don’t want to give too much away right off the bat. Timing is every thing. The music has to be just right. You can tell by the look on my face that I mean business and I’m not playing around. I came to put you in your place and show you some thing that you have never seen before. My body is sound in motion like acid trip hallucinations were you see sounds and hear shapes. You stepped into my world were I pull off visor tricks so smooth you think I cheated. My box work is right angle anomalies. I go from the Houston hard step to the Brooklyn bounce with a Polo Raver nonchalant attitude. My train of thought is pure genius and I set the standards for the next guy who thinks he has what it takes. I don’t do this for my self though. I do it for the look on other people’s faces and to get the highest of complements that I can get from another dancer “Your Good!” I don’t think that though. I see really good dancers I think are better than me all the time, but every good dancer tells me the same thing.

-- Anonymous, February 07, 2002

Sound In Motion

I may not look cool in normal life. I don’t tend to like what is in style in Main Stream America. You look down on me as wasted youth. Even people my age don’t think I’m right. You know what though, There are millions of us. I know you have heard about the Friday and Saturday from dusk till dawn all night Dance Parties. Were the gathering rolls from room to room. Looking for that DJ to give them their high, their fix. Their addiction must be feed. But not just from the DJ. They are cannibals; they feed off each other through out the wave of the night. Looking for the little round pill to put them on autopilot. But it’s not just about the high. It’s the voyage you take and how you get from point A to point B. I can get fucked up at home this is different. These are my brothers and sisters, girlfriends and boyfriends, with one common goal. “To lose our selves in a sea of music and dance.” You may say I’m crazy, legally insane from all the drugs I have done. I’m not a textbook case though. I don’t do it to feel better about my self, make me happy, or look cool. That’s just a side affect. I do it to make my liquid, Art In Motion. My hands are so tight and precise they look loose. It’s harder than it looks. You think I’m dancing. Hell no. I’m practicing, looking and waiting for the right time in the night to battle. Were the music hits my soul just right and I see some one that is already there and they pull me in. They don’t know it. They don’t even see it coming. Till they end their session and I step in to lay down the law. Slow at first. I don’t want to give too much away right off the bat. Timing is every thing. The music has to be just right. You can tell by the look on my face that I mean business and I’m not playing around. I came to put you in your place and show you some thing that you have never seen before. My body is sound in motion like acid trip hallucinations were you see sounds and hear shapes. You stepped into my world were I pull off visor tricks so smooth you think I cheated. My box work is right angle anomalies. I go from the Houston hard step to the Brooklyn bounce with a Polo Raver nonchalant attitude. My train of thought is pure genius and I set the standards for the next guy who thinks he has what it takes. I don’t do this for my self though. I do it for the look on other people’s faces and to get the highest of complements that I can get from another dancer “Your Good!” I don’t think that though. I see really good dancers I think are better than me all the time, but every good dancer tells me the same thing.

if you are a true dancer please e-mail me jason

-- Anonymous, February 07, 2002

THE RAVES ABOVE HAVE SAID EVERYTHING ABSALUTLY TRU...FUCK WHAT OTHERS THINK... THERE JUST MAD CAUSE THEY CANT DO IT... LIQUID IS UR OWN STYLE..U GATTA RAVE HARD...U DONT NEED TO TAKE DRUGS...ITS ALL IN THE BEAT... SO BE URSELF AND RAVE UR ASS OFF !!!!

-- Anonymous, February 14, 2002

if u smack a glowstick on the ground wont if brake an stuff will come out of it how do u stop that from happening

-- Anonymous, February 16, 2002

HOW CAN YA'LL SIT THERE AND TELL THIS PERSON TO GO DO SOME X. IT AIN'T SAFE DON'T PUT YA LIFE IN JEPORADY LIKE THAT. LIVE IT UP AND MAKE YOUR LIFE SOMETHING. THEY SITTIN HERE TELLIN YOU TO NOT BE LIKE SOMEBODY ELSE WHILE ALSO TELLIN YOU TO GO TAKE X. DON'T BE LIEK ANYBODY ELSE BE YOUR OWN PERSON. DON'T TAKE X OR ANY OTHER DRUG. GET A ANTIDRUG, FIND A LIFE.

-- Anonymous, February 16, 2002

Hey, I read like 200 answers to this thread on Thurs night just for fun. I've been to a club once, and it was a ghetto one. I'm a real shy person, never danced in my life, so I just hung out in the corner (some friends had brought me). Well last night another friend invites me to go to a dance at UCSD. I figure "what the heck." I bought some glowstix for no apparant reason. I also had a Mountain Dew 'Amp' energy drink.

Keep in mind I've NEVER danced before and am TOTALLY shy. Well people start showin up. They're playin rap, which i don't even like, but after feelin like a loser cause i'm standin around doin nothing, and remembering how so many people said no one would care if i couldn't dance, I just started fakin in...like 10 min later I'm going all out doing random stuff and havin MASS FUN. Well it's 11 and they go back to playin some trance and house (I'm a trance type of guy) so I break my sticks and just start doing whatever I can...I've seen my friends do sticking/liquid but never tried, but I prolly am better than most beginners. By the time I left I'd had the most intense workout of my life, as well as the most fun. Even if i danced like crap and couldn't glowstick as well as the ravers, I still held my own, and conquered my demons. AND I WASN'T ON ANY DRUGS. (unless you're mormon, then i was guilty of doing caffeene). I was supposed to do E for the first time tomorrow, but decided I don't need that...I can have a shitload of fun without doing shit like that.

So to all the beginners (like me)- don't listen to that BS about needing drugs...I'm seriously the shyest person ever, but the music/caffeene/vibes got to me and I just went ape on the floor...and it was mad fun. I'm not dissin those who roll, just tellin those who don't that I really don't think it's neccessary.

Have fun, be safe, and dance yo' ass off :) Troike in SD

-- Anonymous, February 16, 2002

WUssUp Pe3Pz...i habnt posted here in a while....... atleast since sept. 11 attacks..... i hope yo0hz iz still partyin

-- Anonymous, February 17, 2002

ya k everyone is saying on here go do sum e u know and dance let the drug take over ur mind. ohhh k! smart one! stupid ppl. fuck the drugs. ive been done with them for 3 months and before i would only pop once a month. but i decided that its alot better sober. n e ways dont do e, ppl might say it will help but really and truthfully it doesnt help u dance it gives you energy. wow! go drink sum coffee or something. fuck e!

-- Anonymous, February 17, 2002

Damn....this board has been going for 3 years, it took me awhile to get the hang of it, but once u got it...u cant get rid of it. the whole scene is addictive, i dont think ill ever be able to stop. oh well huh? =P something about that music gets in your soul. plur buddies

-- Anonymous, February 20, 2002

Yes, I like long walks on the beach with my crippled gerbil speedy the cheesehead, which I bought in Greenbay, along with an epileptic goldfish who talks to me through telepathy & sign language. But, don't consider me an idiot, consider me as your spouse who you locked in the basement 5 months ago. DERELICT GOLDFISH!!! ate my cheese... well... i don't care about your car. I LIKE E!!! EEP EEP!!!

-- Anonymous, February 21, 2002

Well first of all hi not (High)to all the nice Peepz who Left theire gr8 wisdom on this page.It realy made me proud to be asosehated with ravers all over the world.Thanks u guy`s and girl`s!

I would realy like to chat to other ravers anyware.Please E-mail me youre details !!!

Keep on living ur live ;)

-- Anonymous, February 21, 2002

Yes, I like long walks on the beach with my crippled gerbil speedy the cheesehead, which I bought in Greenbay, along with an epileptic goldfish who talks to me through telepathy & sign language. But, don't consider me an idiot, consider me as your spouse who you locked in the basement 5 months ago. DERELICT GOLDFISH!!! ate my cheese... well... i don't care about your car. I LIKE E!!! EEP EEP!!!

-- Anonymous, February 21, 2002

oh ya! ummm okay thats jib talk not e-tarded talk. e-tard talk: can u feel the love, see the love, the colors of love, join hands in my circle of love, comeon ppl i know u want too. see the plur live the plur love the plur.

n e ways have fun for u stupid sketch cases!

-- Anonymous, February 22, 2002

TWO WORDZ ---> BE CREATIVE.... thats all it is to it....

-- Anonymous, February 23, 2002

its easy all u have 2 do is go to alot of under ground events veiw the art of dancing then get in ther and deveope your own styleyoul have it in no time

-- Anonymous, February 24, 2002

Why dont all you E-tards stop doin drugs and go get a job...We're all doomed, our quest is vain,

-- Anonymous, February 25, 2002

Why dont all you E-tards stop doin drugs and go get a job...We're all doomed, our quest is vain, can't you see? We need to make the world a better place for the goldfish!

-- Anonymous, February 25, 2002

what the fuck man, in the uk, what the fuck are u going on about breakins hip hop culture which i givr much love to. But raves man there from the eighties man started of as illegal raves man, the dancing is handmovments man going with the beat, just dance naturally let the music take u. any way man your dance scene is shit im sorry i know u have some types of music but overall its better in then uk

-- Anonymous, February 28, 2002

What up everybody, i got a lot of questions and i need some answers for sure. i jst started liquiding in my dorm room and its really hard. I got the waving motion down but there is so much more to it its ridculous. I would like to know how to glide across the floor because wen you can do that and include that with your liquid it looks bad as fuck. Im really new to th sen and i just wanted to say what up and see what you guy had to say. peace

-- Anonymous, February 28, 2002

First of all, I wanna say that I had the best time of my life at together as one 2001. Here's a little something for all ya'lls who want to bust some moves on the dance foor. Start bobbing your head to the beat, move your shoulders from side to side, then star moving your arms as if you were throwing upper cuts. Now, start marching on your tip-toes, and slam your toes on the floor. Once you get the basics, just add a little flava and you will be dancing the night away! Peace and love to all you e-tarts out there :)

-- Anonymous, February 28, 2002

The best thing about bein a raver is that no one cares how you dance.... If you keep practicing your own style you'll get good at dancing. The key is finding the rythem and goin with it.. its all about feelin' the beat ad havin fun. People say im a really good dancer and when i started I was afraid to dance in front of anyone ( extacy def. helped) Anyone know of any good parties in florida comin up beides ultra?

-- Anonymous, March 01, 2002

hey man, i went to a party last year being afraid that people were gonna look at me and laugh. it turned out that there wasnt anything to be afraid of. i went to one last night (1st of march) and i saw this old guy dancing and havin fun, not caring wat others thought of wat he did. THATS WAT RAVING MEANS. GO HAVE FUN. IF THEY LAUGH, SCREWEM , U ARE U so go make somthing of urself!

later Jay *Submit to yo PAWA*

-- Anonymous, March 02, 2002

learning to rave takes alote of practice but eventually if ya work at it it will come naturally and like they say youll do the shit everywhere,hit some raves watch a couple people and go home and fuck it up, recently i started twirling and thats the craziest looking shit ya ever saw

-- Anonymous, March 04, 2002

it took me 3 years to perfect my style but it was worth it now i know evry trick in the book my shits of the hook i kick ass when i go raving

-- Anonymous, March 09, 2002

I AM AN IMPORTANT PERSON WHO IS WISE IN THE WAYS RAVE SCIENCE!!! I would say to you, stop doing E, because it is bad for you, and it will screw up your brain worse than it already is!!! Heed my warning or beware the aliens who will show up in your DREAMSSSSS!!!!! for i will not assisst you in vanquishing the foul creatures you have released upon the WORLD!!!!! -thank you for your time

-- Anonymous, March 13, 2002

It's all the way that you feel the music - Even if you feel like the most uncoordinated person in the world, you can still find moves that sort of "represent your character". This takes much practice!

-- Anonymous, March 15, 2002

hey do any of you guys have any cool rave liquid dancing videos or sites i can visit i just started raving i need some help and ive never see liquid dancing or a rave before...peace out

-- Anonymous, March 18, 2002

High, Start off by keeping your finger tips together. Move your arms and hands together in a circular motion(wave type motion~~ shape of an 8)~~~making sure your finger tips stay "connected" at all times. Personally, raving infront of the mirror didn't help me much at first, but after a couple days practice, try raving infront of a mirror in the dark w/ some glow sticks- to electonica, trance- dance...shit like that..the music is a must. It takes time to build a good momentum in tune with the music..take it at your own pace. Over time you'll build speed. I learned how to rave without taking any drugs, but I have to admit my confidence for raving came when I was rolling my balls off raving at SOUND FACTORY, NYC, and a circle formed around me, and this hot raver chick said I was the best raver she ever seen(One of the best nights of my life). This was before I knew much of anything of what raving was really all about. Drugs are certainly not a must. I've been raving for ~4 years and I can honestly say some of my best rave experiences were sober ones. Speaking from experience, "Don't E every weekend, it'll fuck your head up. Conserve the shit, once a month the most and you'll be able to rave forever. Any more than that and your gonna ruin your E highs for yourself. Trust me, I see it happen over and over again- to people I care about no less. Please, be smart." Peace-Love-Unity-Respect

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-- Anonymous, March 20, 2002

Hi, check out http://www.jugglingwithatwist.fsnet.co.uk/page59.html to see some videos of how to manipulate glowstick twisters these moves can be used with just glowsticks also a video of what they look with fire. watch what the arms and body are doing rather than the fire.

-- Anonymous, March 20, 2002

thanzk guys hey what des "E" actually do to u is liek steroids or sometin?? is it something that makes u fast oor never get tired ??

-- Anonymous, March 20, 2002

hey if you actually read this response in this very long list of answers Rolling is nice but only fun guys eat fungus natural is much better for learning. If you are going to liquid then forget glowsticks cause they really only help you learn in the begining. after that they take away from true liquid skills. just practice the only way to be improve is dedication. oh hey if you are looking for things to learn from watch martial arts movies . always worked for me

-- Anonymous, March 21, 2002

oh yeah one more thing F*CK house long live TRANCE

-- Anonymous, March 21, 2002

BE-BOP BE-BOP COLA, WELCOME CONSUMER!!! AND I WOULD SAY TO MYSELF, RAVING IS FOR LOSERS, AND E IS MONKEY POOH!!! WHY DO U RAVE??? WHY DO U KILL YOUR BRAIN WITH THE DRUGS!!! ITS NOT SMART!!! SAVE SOULS, DONT DO DRUGS!!!

-- Anonymous, March 21, 2002

i have a very serious question. my boyfriend is getting into drugs and i think hes gay. i guess my question is... can u file my tax return? i like sardines and happy sauce with a side of babies... thank you. give me some pliers.

-- Anonymous, March 25, 2002

I am actually dissappointed with many ppl who have responded to this original question. But hell, we all have our opinions, whether the kidz decide to be positive or not. KEEP THE RAVING ALIVE!!!! P.L.U.R everyone! ;)hehehehe****

-- Anonymous, March 26, 2002

hey, sorry i dont have an answer but i would really like to gte an answer to that questin too! i want to learn how to liquid cuz i think it is real kick ass and the guys i see that do it are too fucked up to help me:s) anyways if you could help me plz e-mail me at sweet_n_nastychick@hotmail.com. thanx alot;):P)

-- Anonymous, March 27, 2002

the way to do rave dancing is quite easy just get into the flow of the music use your feet move around alot youll get the hang of i

-- Anonymous, April 06, 2002

Since the question is so old, I figure the person who originally posted it has gotten much better by now. As for the new peeps just gettin' into it, if you really wanna know how to dance just practice. If it helps to look at videos, look at videos. If it helps to ask in forums, do so. Don't worry about the other people. People who can't dance can't do so because they worry too much about what other fuckers think. Just relax and let yourself go, and if you need drugs to help you out, go ahead, but just be responsible with it.

-- Anonymous, April 06, 2002

ALL RIGHT LISTEN UP U TRY HARD FAGZ, FIRST OFF U FAGS THAT DO XTC U FUCKING GAY ASS JUNKIES GET A FUCKING LIFE U STUPID DICK FACED MONKEYZ. sECOND OF ALL WHY IN THE FUCKING FUCK ARE U GOIGN TO RAVES THERE ALL FUCKING SHIT HOUSE AND OMG RAVING LOOKS SO GAY NEXT TIME UR AT A RAVE JUST SIT AND LOOK AT ALL THE FAGS THAT ARE RAVING AND U WILL START TO LAUGH THEN LOOK AT THE TRUE SICK CUNTS THE BREAKERS SE THESEGUYS ARE ONLY GOOD DANCERS.........MAN I HATE U FUCKING FAGGOTS TRY HARDS U ONLY LIKE 15 AND U THINK U ALL THAT GOING TO PARTIES DOING XTC AND SHIT FUCK U ALL

-- Anonymous, April 08, 2002

SHOUT OUT TO MY BROTHA JOHN. I HATE U FUCKING LITTLE FUCKS THAT ARE 13-16 THINKING U ALL GROWN UP AND SHIT I TELL U POOFTAS THAT RAVING LOOKS SHIT BREAKING LOOKS GOOD.. U ARE ALL TRY HARD NIGGAS. TAKING ECSTACY? HEY IF UR FUCKING RETARTED TAKE IT U LOW LIFE FAGS FUCKING DIRTY ASS BITCHES THAT USE GLOW STICKS... FUCK I USED A GLOWSTICK TO FINGER A GIRL AT A CLUB BUT IM OVER THAT SHIT FUCKING CLUBS ARE SHIT 2 THA MAX YAL. FUCK UNDERAGE SHIT IS THE SHITEST SHIT EVA FCKING 10 YR OLD BITCHES GO THERE THE ONLY REASON THAT I GO IS TO PICK UP HOTT BITCHES...AND TO THE FUCK HEAD THAT WROTE THE QUESTION.......UR A FUCKING POOFTA GOING TO THE INTERNET FOR ANSWER... THATS ALMOST AS SAD AS FINDING A BF OR GF OFF THE INTERNET FUCKING SAD ASS FUCKS ALL OF YAL CAN GET FUCKED

-- Anonymous, April 09, 2002

i just wana know how the hell you do some of the shit like breakdanceing and rave and all that you know so if any one can teach me im me or email me some moves

-- Anonymous, April 13, 2002

Whuts Crackin Peoples ??? aiight umm ive been to a few raves in the span of my 14 years of life and ive seen the phattest ass shit out there... i learned keeping my wrists together and just folloingone over the ther another oe is figure eights just make an eight and follow with your other hand, after that its all druggs musiq and plur yo. i dont have anymore to say so 213... MAD ASS PLUR -Opei

-- Anonymous, April 14, 2002

All of you are stupid. Go to this website It will show you how to rave. www.wetnutz.com. It features top dollar wit the gold flea collar and Pimp Mars, and Da Rolla. Tight shit.

-- Anonymous, April 17, 2002

Dont ignore us, all we want to know is why you people enjoy killing yourselves and gyrating like idiots. Why the drugs, why the boozes, and why stupid looking "dancing" if you can call it that. Please, please answer, thanks.

-- Anonymous, April 18, 2002

Well,you seem bored too.If you dont like raving,why the fuck would you come into a raving message board??Makes nosense but w/e.

Im just getting into the rave scene.Everyday I turn off the lights,get my 2 lil bro's Glowing Toothbrushes and just use those as glowsticks.I play a nice beat on my computer and stand in front of the mirror trying to make my own style of glowsticking.Im only 14 so I cant hit the clubs,but when Im old enough Ill be doing that and going especially to raves.I learned all by myself.I saw something on the news about rave and I said "hey thats raw as hell".So I went to some shop there a few days later and bought 2 $3.50 glowsticks.Lucky for me,they were playing some rave music in that shop.I stood outside,and opened the glowsticks.I just started making circles (Mostly Figure 8's) and i had a crowd of about 10 people looking at me.When the song was over,everyone began to applaud.I had never felt so awesome in my life before.Thats my story on how I got into rave.

Well, I have a question about glowsticks on strings.......Do you have to move them to the beat of the song??And also,how can i prevent myself from getting whipped everytime I spin the glowsticks and try to spin them another way??!!!!

Thanks A-Lot Future Raver ~..~ Leo

-- Anonymous, May 03, 2002

Ok first of all, you can't curse at an anti-raver. You must outsmart them. Anyway, I am just beginning to learn to rave. I know you can'd just buy an instuction manual for raving, but could someone give the basics of raveing. When you hold the glowsticks what is the basic thing you do. Talk to me on AIM. My s/n is "gcanthem07" and "oddstranger90". Thanx! PLUR!

-- Anonymous, May 03, 2002

Actually I find that doing E really can improve dancing for some people...I used to be rhythmically challenged, to say the least, but E does away with inhibitions and once you don't care what anyone else thinks you can definitely dance. Painful-looking dancing is a product of self-consciousness. E should be done in moderation, of course. It has a lot of unpleasant side effects, both long and short term; forgive me, but at the moment I think it's worth it. When I'm a futureless wreck with porridge for brains and curvature of the spine I'll probably change my opinion.

-- Anonymous, May 04, 2002

What about the people that are trying to learn to rave but can't get ahold of it b/c they're to fuck'n young to go to raves? And I don't have anything against E, but I don't think it's needed to rave, even though it can make someone rave better. Now let's get back to the topic.

-- Anonymous, May 04, 2002

Wat was the topic? ooh I been ravin fo 4 years now damn im a old mutha fuka must hab graduated lik 2 years ago. well u want 2 learn how 2 rave ill teach u first ob all u got 2 join a gang and become a real mutha fukin G lik me ooh scratch dat u dun want 2 b a gangsta but a raver u c wat drugz do 2 u 2 all the youngsta all there say no 2 drugs aite u get glowstix and u wipe them on ur ass fo good luck den u make a 8 and act lik a stupid mutha fuka after dat u move on 2 liquid den ur a pro but u got 2 b rollin and smoke dat mary jane

-- Anonymous, May 04, 2002

Now Mr. LOL, you might be able to help us... IF WE COULD FUCK'N UNDERSTAND YOU!!!

-- Anonymous, May 04, 2002

Well smart ones... thanks for answering my question... O wait, thats right YOU DIDNT!!! Now you said you had to outsmart a non-raver, but no one said any thing i would consider moderately intelligent... so thanks for nothing... you just keep on killing yourselves and gyrating like retards... goodluck!!! ;)

O by the way, goodluck outsmarting me when the E destroys what little brainpower you have left.

-- Anonymous, May 06, 2002

Hey bojangles.. You dont need drugs to rave.. Why do you just assume drugs are needed to rave.. Yeah a lot of people do em, but some dont... I dont... I can still go to those dances and have a good time without the drugs... How about you let people have fun how they want to have fun.. Personally, i think you're jus jelous because you CANT dance and you WANT to and ADMIRE everyone who can..

-- Anonymous, May 06, 2002

I don't really have an answer. I read most of the other people's answers and i was wondering if you ever got the answer or did you mix what everybody said and went dancin, because i need to learn too and i would like to know what u have to say.

-- Anonymous, May 06, 2002

You mother f-ing guys!!Just answer my question with a basic yes or no......

Do you need to go to the beat to do glowsticks on strings??All i feakin' need is a damn YES or a damn NO!!

You guys suck at helping people,I hate to say it!!!

DAMN IT PISSES ME OFF SO MUCH!!!!

-- Anonymous, May 06, 2002

Hey guys I'm not from North Carolina but just found this thread and think that some of the stuff and people on here are truly awesome! (and who let that hater on here?)

Short answer to the glowsticks on string question --yes. Keep to the quarter note (1,2,3,4) on the downswing and you'll catch the eighth notes on the up.

Was reading earlier stuff about liquid and dancing in general...one thing I've always tried to do when feeling the music is try to make my whole body (not just my arms) an extension of the wave that's flowing through the room. Let the music be the core and then let your whole body become one part of the whole room's body. Then when you look around you can see other people in sync with you but moving a little differently...that's a different part of the whole body.

And what people say about dancing your own vibe is so true. I danced classically for years and thought my style at raves was too "Broadway," but people that I respected as being phenomenal rave dancers would always come up to me and say, "You're awesome, you should get up on a platform somewhere..."

It's all about sharing, respecting, learning, loving, appreciating, and letting it all out!!!!

It is truly all about the music. No matter of what good shit you've ingested, if there's no good sound it doesn't matter. I've sometimes found that experiences on stuff can overwhelm the music and drown it out. I suppose it all depends on how self-conscious you are and how much help you need in pulling down barriers.

peace all -- they "don't have access that switch" "The heartbeat will never fade"

-- Anonymous, May 07, 2002

Trinity,Thank You Very much.But can you explain it a little better,because i dont understand what you mean by quarter note and stuff.I really appreciate you hel;ping me!!Thanks Alot

Leo

-- Anonymous, May 07, 2002

mr. bojangles is right, you are all a bunch of druggie retards who cant "dance", you gyrate like morons. I bet either of us can out dance you all. so keep on being idiots. IM OUT!!! w00t w00t!!!

-- Anonymous, May 08, 2002

Leo~

By quarter notes I mean the thunderous (boom, boom, boom, boom or dup, dup, dup, dup) in the bass that you can hear from outside the club or venue while you're walking toward it from blocks away. That's for most house/trance tracks...drum and bass and some breaks are often written in a different meter so what I explained wouldn't work with them.

Start twirling your strings around in a circle. Once you get going, imagine hitting 6 o'clock (or 9 o'clock or noon or 3 o'clock) on the circle you're creating at one of the (dup, dup, dup, dup) beats. divide your circle mentally into the four parts of the dup dup dup dup bass you're hearing...that way your spinning of the string will be in "time" with the music.

Does this make sense?

PS Why the "silent but violent" name? Not cool, not plur. sounds like an ebola virus or something awful.

-- Anonymous, May 08, 2002

Popping, locking, and bboying (breakdancing for you mainstream folks), have nothing to do with raving. Raving is a type of mentality, not a type of dance. You can dance however you want at a rave. Some people choose to dance without technique or style. That's fine. Raving is about tolerance. But you should not criticize people who want to dance with technique. Afterall, every activity can be done "better"-- better as in more aesthetically pleasing to more people.

In this regard, the most skillful forms of dancing that are often seen at raves are glowsticking, popping/locking (funk styles), and bboying (hip-hop style), and poi stringing.

some sites are: http://www.glowsticking.org http://www.shaddupanddance.com http://www.bboy.com

-- Anonymous, May 08, 2002

First of all, Mr. Bojangles, I do not take drugs. Second of all, I am an honor roll student and just won an award in math that only 1% of all the people in the country win, so I am not dumb, stupid, retarded, braindead, or anything like that. Third, I am just learn to rave, so unless you want me to tell you to spin the fire so it burns your ass of, I can't help you.

-- Anonymous, May 08, 2002

*learning

*off

-- Anonymous, May 08, 2002

i dunno what the hell i ve been dancin like. but yeah i went to a couple raves, since there aint shit around my towns. so some cool peeps should e-mail me and gimme some pointers.

-- Anonymous, May 09, 2002

Hey Tha really helps.Im also getting the hang of luquiding.I can do some awesome waves with my arms,I just need to learn how to integrate my feet into it.If any1 can help please do it,id really appreciate it.

P.S. Well I heard a wrestler using as a rant,and I kinda liked the sound of it.Thats why I picked SilentButViolent.If im not mistaken,it was Chris Benoit who quoted it!!

-- Anonymous, May 09, 2002

Hey like, im some chick that cant rave worth SHIT! I've tried to learn from a friend... But I just cant do it... I've tried feeling the music and everything... But it just doesnt turn out quite the way i really want it to. Im sort of a perfectionist n stuff. I will not pop pills or anything of the sort to rave. I dont do that stuff. Im just wonderin if theres any basics i can try, besides a figure 8 (which i fail miserably to do).~*Nyte nyte*~

-- Anonymous, May 10, 2002

yo~ yeah i m a beginner at liquid and i would like to know where i can get videos on the net for free? any one have any ideas where? plz post or mail me~ oh yeah .. i would also like to see sum photon light action!!

-- Anonymous, May 11, 2002

read the post i made. shaddupanddance.com has some liquid videos. glowsticking videos can be had at glowsticking.org.

there is no such thing as rave dancing. there are certain styles, but dancing is NOT called raving. the word raving is like the words partying or clubbing. you don't dance with a chick and say your dance is raving.

-- Anonymous, May 13, 2002

Ahhh, raving is so much once you get the hang of it. I saw some of the boys doin it and i watched like for 5 mins, i decided to go up and try it myself..im a natural! who needs to bust of E to have so much fun? It's all good, raving is an art. No one can rave like someone else theres always something new and different, KeeP on RaVIn! PeaCe EasY!

-- Anonymous, May 20, 2002

First, put on rave music that really sets you in a rave mind set. Next sit back in a comfortable chair. Then, stand up when you feel you want to and just let your body become a medium for the artists music. Your dance is your own interpretation of the music. Let your arms flow freely. You are in a very 3D reality. Use this to your advantage. Move up and down. Right to left. Back to front. The majority of all "liquid" moves are based around the circular motions and the figure 8 motion. Grab a glowstick. Just one. Now, draw a figure 8. Pick up the other glow stick. Draw the same figure 8 with the same hand. Follow with your other hand. It helped me to pretend the first glowstick was a train. The second one is the caboose. Make sure that your motions are exaggerated. Make the largest figure 8 even larger. After you can sustain a very large figure 8, then with your leading hand, instead of going back around once you have reached the top of your figure 8, bring it towards yourself, and under your following arm. Play with this motion until it becomes almost second nature. Listen to music that brings back the vibe for you. Again, allow your body to interpret the music. Feel free to write if you have any questions ~Sgt Pepper

-- Anonymous, May 20, 2002

Hey ravers! I have NEVER been to a rave , but this summer i would LOVE to go to one. I live in Arlington, Texas and i am willing to travel, so if you guys know of any raves going on in the state, please inform! I dunno if i will do E when i go because i get a "high" off of the music itself. i love it so much. It would be awesome to talk to someone who knows the rave scene well 16/f/tx Aim: XxBoWiEbAbE04xX Thanx!

-- Anonymous, May 25, 2002

whats PLUR??

-- Anonymous, May 27, 2002

PLUR is the universal rave motto. It stands for Peace, Love, Unity, and Respect, some times you will see an extra R at the end of it (PLURR) and that R stand for Responsibility. Learn it, Love it, and most importantly, LIVE IT!

Hey, ive been raving for 2 years now, I can say I do an alright job at rave dancing, really tho raving is how you feel inside. Just use how you feel and make it into a dance...let the beat move you. It will look cool anyway you do it, dancing is supposed to be unique, what fun would dancing be if everyone did the same kind of dance?

-- Anonymous, May 30, 2002

HEY TO ALL YOU PEOPLE OUT THERE! JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I HAVE NOT BEEN RAVING THAT LONG AND ITS THE BEST ENVIRONMENT EVER! I HAVE SO MUCH FUN ROLLIN OR NOT. DONT GET ME WRONG...ROLLING DOES INTENSIFY EVERYTHING BUT I CAN GO TO A RAVE COMPLETELY SOBER AND STILL HAVE FUN. I JUST NOW LEARNED TO DANCE WITH GLOWSTICKS AND ALL OF YOU ARE RIGHT...ITS VERY ADDICTIVE! I GUESS IT JUST COMES TO YOU WHEN YOU LET YOUR MIND GO AND FEEL IT LIKE ALL OF YOU HAVE SAID. IT TOOK LOTS OF PRACTICE BEFORE I WAS COMFORTABLE DOING IT BUT NOW THAT I HAVE THE BASICS I CAN THROW MY OWN STUFF INTO IT. CAN ANY OF YOU E-MAIL ME SOME BEATS TO DOWNLOAD? I REALLY LIKE TRANCE AND HOUSE. THANKS! PLUR! SASSY

-- Anonymous, May 30, 2002

Ok people, heres the answer to the question..its very simple...Feel the music and let your body flow to it..whatever u do is your personal style..ive been ravin for a long time and people always ask me how to do it...and i tell them to let the music take your body over...WARNING: not all music is for everyone, every individual has their own style that they can relate to different types of music. Good luck and b safe, dont get too fuked up in the process...

-- Anonymous, May 30, 2002

Hey, if u want videos then go to www.HouseOfRave.com they have some nice clips or people Raving with g-stick, Photons, Ravin's, G- stringing, Imprinting, and LiKquiD PoPing.. its an ok syt.. the peopLe in the vides arnt that good.. onlee this one guy in the likquid pop section " Eric " is pretty good.. but all the rest is pretty simple to do.. u can kinda learn the basic F8, and all that by watching some videos.. Alright Good Luck, and Instant Message me at "Lost Asian Guy" if u want to talk or whatever.. Aite LatZ yo

-- Anonymous, June 01, 2002

oh yea.. forgot.. theres not set, like You have to do certain moves one after the other.. u go with the music, do what u feel like, have fun.. feel the beats.. you do go like, ok F8 like 7 tyms, then do a Box.. then do Likquid acid for 20 seconds.... no no.. u do whatever u want.. try to " Flow " alrit, LatZ

-- Anonymous, June 01, 2002

dude, i've got your same problem, learning to rave isn't easy. but, just get the fuck out there with some glowsticks, two wig pills, and don't stop fuckin movin, feel it, just roll your eyes back and feel it, but you gotta wig nuts. nick

-- Anonymous, June 01, 2002

OK. Stop saying stuff like "feel the music". If the answer was that simple, this pole wouldn't be 3 years of argueing about gay people, how to rave, and anti-ravers. Sure you can feel the music, but when this pole started, he probably already knew that. I dought that he still comes to this pole, but for us that do come here, how about some basic moves?

PLUR

-- Anonymous, June 02, 2002

WeLL its pretty impossible to discribe using text, only real way u can teach is in person or web cam.. but web cam is gay.. anywaz.. i'll try to to Help.. Candy Hop.. Skippin in Place.... then side to side.. then forward side back side bla so on.. ramdom.. figure 8, swing both or ur arms in a mothing that if someone facing u it looks like the number eight " 8 " Likquid acid, lots of differnt ways.. basic is thouch the tip of ur right hand with ur left had so it seems like ur forming a basket.. then move ur arms so it looks like its likquid.. also include "bodywave" if u want the wave to look smooth.... others i duno how to discribe using text.. hahaha good Luck

-- Anonymous, June 03, 2002

I'm new to the rave scene and it's not helping me much living in Edmond, Oklahoma. There are no good raves here! I've been to one rave and it was in Dallas, I no just sit at home and pop in the Trance/House/etc. and create my own rave... without the DJ(Since I'm Dancing and it's hard to dance while mixing, lol) Me and my friends have gotten together a couple times and raved all night with stuff that we bring in, and we don't use drugs, I didn't take a single pill/roll/etc. when I was in dallas, and most people thought I've been raving for a long time. One question though, does anyone here know of any raves here in Oklahoma? Email me please:-)

-- Anonymous, June 04, 2002

Some of you should try alaska raves....bad boy bill was just up here and let me tell you there are some good dancers in anchorage alaska some ppl may think we suck..well some of us dooo, but anyways you have to be around all different kinds of dancers to find your style me i do everything but strings..i think they are hard..remember you do what you love so love dancing and have fun at it.....take care RAVE ON ALASKA

-- Anonymous, June 06, 2002

This Liquid dancing shit is tyte ass. I'm going to Kottonmouth Kings at Clutch in a few days. It's gonna be some drippen' shit. I need to learn some moves, got any pionters let me know.

-- Anonymous, June 06, 2002

Hi ravers im probally the newest person to this i just want to know if any one out there knows any sites i can go to to learn how to do the figure 8 and stuff like that the simple stuff ive seen it done in real fast movements but thats it please post ehre or email me if yo uknow any place that will teach me how to do it

-- Anonymous, June 07, 2002

hey im pretty new to the scene too, i went to 2 raves so far... i can hand wave and figure 8 and some other break stuff and some of my own... but i really wanna learn good liquid, like body waves, total arm waves... it seems like the joints in my arm cant flow like my hands... any tips?

-- Anonymous, June 09, 2002

hey in pretty new to the scene too... ive bin to 2 raves, i can hand wave, fig8 and some break stuff mixed w/ my own... buti wanna lern good liquid, like leg/arm waves, and total body waves... any tips?

-- Anonymous, June 09, 2002

heres a tuff site i found!!!! http://www.herbalton.com/dance/glowstick.shtml THIS IS THE BEST RAVING I'VE EVER SEEN!!!! I MEAN...I'M GOOD BUT THESE GUYS KICK ASS!!! i gotta work on the flips and stuff but i can do everythin' else! i've been raving since i was 12yrs old, wen my bro came home one night and taught me! am 15 now and can wait to go to my first REAL rave! maybe this video will help some of u! - - LATER!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, June 09, 2002

ya know dat all ya gotta do is to observe ppl dance then follow them

-- Anonymous, June 11, 2002

Live in So Fla and it seems that the scene just isnt the same anymore. Love to hear whats going on - went awya to college and now that i am back i am soooo outta the loop! Love the connection, the vibe, the whole f-ing thing! Miss it!

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2002

i currently live in west texas and we have a very pitiful scene down here. it's basically like 8 person raves and its fun and all, but gets redundant after a while. well, anyways, i'm moving to western connecticut and i'm looking for folks in connecticut/new york scene to show me around.

-- Anonymous, June 14, 2002

I've read a few things people have been saying on here. Liquid raver is right... you don't need to be on any type of drug to rave. I have never done a drug just to feel music. Like a few of you have said, I sit there for a minute or two listen to the music and jump up and do my thing.. Nothing big. To be honest I dance every friday and saturday night, and truly just because some people take other peoples moves dosen't mean anything to me. Honestly I have watched a few people raven and I came up with a few things.... just do whatcha gotta do and be who ya wanna be.... just dance! whats up my nogga

-- Anonymous, June 20, 2002

I have been raving all over the world for over 14 years now. So although I might not be the best dancer in the world you should hear me when I say: Love dancing with passion! Don't concern yourself of what others say. Just dance, dance and dance some more. Not because you want to become better dancer but because the beauty of your body moving through space as if one with the music, is too much to refuse! I am 28 now and I still dance as if I am 5! Did you notice how 5 year olds can't help but dance when introduced to the beat? That is because dancing is in our blood. Unfortunatelly, somehow, as the time goes by, we learn to feel embarassed, destracted by life stressors and other less important things in life and we stop dancing! No, don't let that happen and dance your life away. There is no better drug in life! Love, Peace and Beauty of Dance! Kile

-- Anonymous, June 23, 2002

i just hit the rave scene. i cant dance worth shit. i have no rhythm but put two gold dolphins in me and back the fuck up. the few people that say drugs dont help are the ones who are scared of them. once the dolphins kick in, i'll chill out by the stage, close my eyes, relax and ignore everything around me and become one with the music. start slow just gettin in sync with the music. it all flows after. let loose and just feel. FEEL the music. let it take over and roll with the music. being sober there are too many other thoughts in the way to allow you to fully let loose and become one with the music. you have not the ability to concentrate on the music sober as you can while you are rolling and all it takes is massive and complete concentration and the beat and everything else comes naturally.

-- Anonymous, June 24, 2002

im in the uk, and the best dance accessories i have are the rav'n ribbon dance lights... fucking amazing and look superb. get them for about $25 each... MUCH better than glosticks!

-- Anonymous, June 25, 2002

Screw the glowsticks dance to the music feel the e then feel the beat and it will all come together. I hope you've gained some dance knowledge on this page... the orginal post of this message was in 1999... hope you've learned some moves!!!! either way if you have or haven't i hope you enjoyed the scene!

If you are interested in underground music visit www.spinvinylnow.com for all the hot underground favorites

-- Anonymous, June 25, 2002

hey there basicly is no wrong way to rave but im 14 what do i know and god damn all that shit about the "E" f@#k that u dont need drugs to rave. and hey ASSHOLE 4RM THE UK U GOT RIPPED OFF ME RAV,N RIBBON PHOTON LIGHT COST ME 13.00$ HA HA HA WHAT A DUMB ASS U ARE

SINCERLY THE PIMP ASS RAVER MASTER "X"

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2002

oh my fucking god. y'all are a bunch of fucking tweekers! some of these poor sould want to lean, not n e thing bad. it's no big fucking deal! just throw um a site, and shut the fuck up. goddamn. i learned on a fucking car trip. i wouldn't them alone till i got it, now i'm the only one still goin' to parties. just shut the fuck up. calm ur fuckin' tweeker asses down, slow down on all the fuckin tabs, and shrooms, and cid and just mellow out. -duce-

-- Anonymous, June 29, 2002

look to all the people that just get out on the dance floor, i give you mad props. Im a mad dancer. Thats all i do all day and all night.i break and i do likquid but guess this, i use glow sticks too. so people stop talking mad shit about people that use glow sticks. your probably just jealous that you cant do it and if not your just a bitch for talking shit dancing is the way you free your soul. your emotions make your body flow it just comes to you its a something that comes naturally to you you just gotta find it

PLUR

-- Anonymous, June 30, 2002

Well, usually the best dancers are the less egotistical ones (yes, referrig to above). In any case, when your at a party, just chill and watch some people, slowly try and immiatate *portions* of their style. If your at home and listening to some music, break out and try some stuff to polish it up. And remember, its not about who's a 'better' dancer, its just about style. Everyone has their own. Its pretty dark anyways so don't worry too much. My style has evolved over the years and will continue to as I dance.

-- Anonymous, July 02, 2002

YOU CANT LEARN HOW TO RAVE BY READING WHAT OTHER PEOPLE PUT DOWn! GO TO A RAVE AND WACH PEOPLE!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, July 04, 2002

EveryOne here is right, there is no such thing as learning how to dance. Just one day your out there all into the music and the next thing you know your dancing.Before you know it youre doin it in your spare time at work and next thing you know its you who people are tryin to learn from. just find whatever it is that makes you want to dance, for me its the smile you get from the girl whos watching me.

-- Anonymous, July 06, 2002

A person can teach u how to dance, yes but that sucks.Go to clubs watch other peaple,check out their moves, fell the music and incorperate what u see into your own style.thats how i learned B M F

-- Anonymous, July 07, 2002

i am a gay rave dancer and i first learned by going to rave strip clubs, and since i live in San Fransisco there are a lot. SO i say that you go to gay bars to learn becuase they have the most rythym and then when u have the moves down u can move onto the straight clubs.

-- Anonymous, July 09, 2002

i went to a rave once and wanted to learn my friend already knew how and i just asked him but he couldnt teach me so once i went to a rave and just asked someone who know how to rave to teach me he did he didn t think i was being a dork or a newb he thought i was pretty cool adn after that first rave he tought me some easiter moves and now im goin ot hte raves and being asked to teach other people that r like 4or 5 yrs older than me so its pretty cool just ask someone to teach u and go home get some glow sticks and practice in the bathroom until u get good too and email me my raving buddies

-- Anonymous, July 09, 2002

Hey all who read this, i am tryin to learn how to do liquid! I have tried, and i have people who have tried to teach me, but i just cant get it down! If any of you have any suggestions email me at my email! Thanx

-- Anonymous, July 11, 2002

set your self in front of a mirror and practice with music you'll get it eventually

-- Anonymous, July 12, 2002

practice, practice, practice if you dont do that, you wont get any better

-- Anonymous, July 13, 2002

Okay......I am about to give the answer that none of you have been able to provide. For those who are interested in an instructional dance video, go to www.lpclabs.com and order one.

-- Anonymous, July 15, 2002

I have been DJing at raves for about three years now and have been going to them for as long as i can remember. All i can say about dancing is feel the music and flow with your body. If your trying to pop, twitch your joints and everything else in your body. If your looking to do liquid, try doing it slow at first but still to the music. Pratice to a song with good snare or a hard bass "THUMP, THUMP" That will help you get a beat. Move everything too, not just your arms, use head, legs, feet, fingers, etc... Work on that and keep dancing and partying safely. "Do what you love and love what you do!" Peace

-- Anonymous, July 18, 2002

YO JUST GET UP AND FUCK EVERY ONE ELSE IF UR ROLLEN BALLS ITLL CLICK TRICK ONE STAY LOOSE IF U TENSE UP THEN IT WILL LOOK STIFF AND DONT FORGET ABOUT UR FEET AT RAVES ASK OTHERS THELL HELP KEEP RAVEN AND KEEP PEACE

-- Anonymous, July 22, 2002

Hi everyone, well heres a question, do many people go by themselves to raves? I want to go to raves and learn to dance but I have no one to go with. I have been going to nightclubs by myself, i feel like a longer by myself but is that odd at raves?

-- Anonymous, July 22, 2002

well thee is many answer to your question. in any rave that i have been to or danced i never thought that i was better dancer than the people who stand around or watched me becase every time i go i see other doing really great with gulo light thing. and yes there is a videos that u can watch many people like me taped and put it in computer files if u have kaza or murf jsut put th key word and download it. and other thing some people uses xtc and they dont even know what they do and that is what makes them better dancer i guess....

-- Anonymous, July 23, 2002

im not an extacy nazi So just do what ever fells right if it fells better on e then do it I have been partying for about 5 years and trust me in time it is so much more of a true felling to dance when your not clouding your brain on drugs but dont just listen to me do what fells rigt to your self forget what every one says or thinks.. A message to all party kids out there be safe in what ever you stumbel on too i have seen to many kids go down we dont need no more!!!! PEACE AND HAVE FUN!!!!!

-- Anonymous, July 26, 2002

Well......Lets start w/I'VE NEVER BEEN TO A RAVE!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, August 03, 2002

Well......Lets start w/I'VE NEVER BEEN TO A RAVE!!!!!!!! But A LOT of my friends had experienced a few....So, I kinda started to catch on in my own living room...I LOVE to DANCE..There's the keyword...oh and I'm an exotic entertainer so feeling music comes quick to me...On the stage at work I'm always bustin' out rave dancin'/liquid/WHATEVER you want to call it....I've heard so man comments from, 'WOW, I've never seen that shit in a "Tittie bar", Or 'Why do you do that on stage, It's not sexy.' I like doing it, and I'll continue to...It's comforting...relieves stress for sure....That's sober, now out of your mind It's incredible! You're on top of the world,BUT...............................................I'm over the X and the trip........... ONE OF MY

-- Anonymous, August 03, 2002

Well......Lets start w/I'VE NEVER BEEN TO A RAVE!!!!!!!! But A LOT of my friends had experienced a few....So, I kinda started to catch on in my own living room...I LOVE to DANCE..There's the keyword...oh and I'm an exotic entertainer so feeling music comes quick to me...On the stage at work I'm always bustin' out rave dancin'/liquid/WHATEVER you want to call it....I've heard so many comments from, 'WOW, I've never seen that shit in a "Tittie bar", Or 'Why do you do that on stage, It's not sexy.' I like doing it, and I'll continue to...It's comforting...relieves stress, for sure....That's sober, now out of your mind It's incredible! You're on top of the world,BUT...............................................I'm over the X and the trip........... ONE OF MY best friends was MURDERED on the 20th of last month.......HE WAS The one who encouraged me to become LIQUID and gave me all of the toys you'd never dream of to make every experience SPECIAL....O.K. that's enough of my SAD story, just remember to "Feel the Beat"....Relax...be yourself,,and FLOW! By the way I was more inventive with my moves when I drunk istead of RoOlLiN' I just had the energy floatin'with the X..........Please be smart with the DRUGS...We are the next generation, Love yourself, and Love everyone else you can.....Life's too short to hate, Hate consumes you too!!!SAY your prayers to whoever you believe in..:-)

-- Anonymous, August 03, 2002

I learned to dance by watching my friends and doing what i saw...it was not always easy but i tryed and got better and better ....listen to the music...find ur soul and dance till the break of day !!!! P.L.U.R. to every one ou there!!! Love yall ,Lun@

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2002

Listen to the beat Feel the beat Dance with the beat, let the music flow.

-- Anonymous, August 19, 2002

So you wanna learn to fag dance, well you can start by bending over and letting me fuck you up the ass. Then you can shove a glow stick up your loose ass then dance around like a fuckin fairy. Why dont you get a life and learn how to 2 step bitch

-- Anonymous, August 20, 2002

Hey I forgot you have to let the music flow, like out your loose ass, but seriously you must have a small dick

-- Anonymous, August 20, 2002

yo man like every one else said you cant learn how to liquid dance by reading shit. the way i stumbled onto this site is im trying to download liquid dancing vids. i cant fucking find them though. so i just go to raves like every weekend and try to learn new moves but the only problem is that im in montreal and no one here has heard of liquid dancing it seems and i was teaching everyone instead of learning shit. kinda wierd. if anyone in montreal reads this and liquid dances email me please cuz i want to learn more shit and im shure you do too.

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2002

there are a couple of basic liquid moves at houseofraves.com under video ...... also there are alot of other great rave gear ....... get the rav'n party light ..... ribbon style ... its awsome for liquid

-- Anonymous, August 24, 2002

Here is the whole story. There is three types of House Battling. There is the "rebel" style which consists mostly of Hard House and Happy Harcore. There is Ravin' were all you do is whatever you want. And the main onew for me is the Advanced House BAttling which consists of Progressive House, This is made up of Advanced Dance moves, U will need Bboy and Hip Hop experienced to get this high.

-- Anonymous, August 25, 2002

well kid all of those answers are right...roll, have fun an just dance and go with a flow..but remember shit like this is addictive even if u re not rooling..like me im sucking on a pacifier right now and im not rolling...just dance and be yourself and have lots of fun rooling or not.

rave tweeker

-- Anonymous, August 27, 2002

all you have to do is feel the music. feel the beat and start moving your body any way it please, who really gives a fuck about how you dance???? it is all fun isnt it? just enjoy the music ;P

-- Anonymous, September 13, 2002

sup yall.... i havent been to a club in a whilez.... whats tight nowadays... liquid? i heard footwork.... tell me whats up

-- Anonymous, September 13, 2002

Here is a link to an instructional video for twirling and shit like that...also they sell products as well http://www.neonhusky.com/Text/poiT.html#ArtOfPoi http://www.neonhusky.com/Text/poiT.html

-- Anonymous, September 16, 2002

I aint tryin to start this "gay" war but i find it funny that all u hard ravers out tere say "dont bring the negative vibe","Peace Love Unity Respect (PLUR)" and all this other poitive shite up in here...which i agree wit dont get me wrong. but then u cum and talk shit about all the homos in this world...didnt mean homos in a bad way...so wats up with that. im not gay but i think it is hilarios when u say shit like that. either u guyz poped in an "X" pill when writing the positive shit and came to ur senses after to write the negative shit, or u guyz are hypcrytz. thnk B4 u talk...or write in this case.

P.S. i aint sayin u guyz are bad. u ravers just have ur morals mixed up. PLUR aiight then ima be out. laterz

-- Anonymous, September 22, 2002

hey, well the guy who wrote this message THREE years ago prolly knows how to dance by now. i wonder where he is now and if he ever learned how to dance. well peace out bye

-- Anonymous, October 05, 2002

yes probubly, well i dont really understand rave. rave is so underestimated. everyone says if you rave you are homosexual? and gothis? someone email me because im not sure what to believe anymore ive been lied to so much.

-- Anonymous, October 14, 2002

i just fell upon this site.

one comment. - reading most of the suggestions from all the post listed here. - all of you so called "ravers" are flakes. **flakes!- that need drugs to THINK they're dancing well? to think they look cool doing it?, that think everyone else will think they look good doing it??? when i see people all fucked up..laying on the floors,jumping around all stupid looking ...and just being annoying.. i just want to spit on them all.. omg just thinking about you people make me sick ehhh.. i can't stress this enough.. whatever though.. idiots. if u want to see a REAL house dancer ....maybe you should come watch me sometime.. i would take every-one of you flakes out...

-- Anonymous, October 17, 2002

Hey, i agree that gay people r very disturbing and disgusting but u shouldn`t critisize people that aren`t the same as u. If he is gay, let him be gay. He doesn`t have anything to do with yall. Does he......... ummmmm no!

-- Anonymous, October 17, 2002

Man, I'm from Anchorage, AK... and there's some poser-ass raver wannabes who never even been to a rave... they get all their "candies" and their visors and then they get there and fucking walk around pretendin to be fucked up and ask everyone else "how do you do that!?"... listen... stand by some speakers for 10, 15 minutes... pretend you never heard of drugs... and let the beat be your drug man... dancing is just moving your body to what you feel... let the beat kick your ass and it'll come to you...

liquid 4ever <3 manda

-- Anonymous, October 22, 2002

If you want to dance Hip Hop, follow the beep. If you wanna know how to RAVE DANCING. I suggest some money; enough to get you a "pill", a bottle of water and two glow stiks with the same color. The "pill" is the best teacher when it comes to raving. Like they always say "Don't try to control the music, let the music controls you" Once you take the pill the music controls you... Bam when you wake up, the moves are inside you. Don't believe me? Dare to try it. I tell you the first "pill" is the best feeling you ever get, but only the first "pill" so you'll never get that experience again so enjoy it as much as possible.

-- Anonymous, October 30, 2002

WELL I'V BEEN IN THE SEEN FOR 9 YRS IV SEEN JUST ABOUT EVERY STYLE YOU COULD THINK OF I PEARSONLY CAN LIQUID POP @ LOCK AND WELL PRETTY MUCH GO FU$$IN OFF THE HOOK THE BEST ADVICE I CAN GIVE IS FELL THE MUZIK LET IT FLOW THRU YOU LIKE RUNNING WATER MOVE WITH THE BEAT AND JUST HAVE FUN IT DOESENT MATTER WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE IF UR HAVIN FUN IF YOU CAN LEARN FROM WATCHING OTHER PEOPLE THEN DO IT THATS HOW I LEARND THE BASIC MOVES AFTER THAT IT WAS ALL ON AND ALWAYS REMEMBER I81B4U PEACE BE SAFE AND HAVE FUN P.S. DONT GET DEAD

-- Anonymous, November 03, 2002

to rave u think of a ave going throughout your bods that u create with your hands arms and knees. Guide the hand up one arm to your face and turn your face to the side. Try rolling your hands back then your arms then shrug shoulders and then bend knees to look like a wave went through entire body.

-- Anonymous, November 07, 2002

ive been dancing for about 2 months and i belive it is all in your mind if u think u cant do it before i started i was a little tubby guy now im fit and chicks are asking me out everywhere. go for it

-- Anonymous, November 08, 2002

I agree with "amy (funkegrooves@aol.com)"

You so called "ravers" are disgusting. Rave started as a collective of musically enlightened people in small, dirty wearhouses in the early 1990's (maybe earlier) I stared going in 1994. There were no prerequisites. It was a place were all the kids that didn't fit in and had a comon interest in the underground culture could go. As it progressed it broke off into sub-genres: house, DnB, Breaks, Techno. As history has shown an underground culture doesn not take divison well - or mainstream attention well...and pretty soon everyone and their mother was going to raves for the sole purpose of buying E, rolling and dancing without having any respect for the dedication and work that DJ, dancers and music enthusiasts had.

Rave is not smonthing you can pick up by buying a pair of UFOs, grabbing some glow sticks, popping an E and going at it. GET A CLUE!

And have some respect. For all you Gay bashers - you are so IGNORANT! Back in the day Gay people made the scene. Many of my raver friends were gay and they were the most fun to be around and some of THE BEST DANCERS! Better than any idiot with a fucking glow stick.

BTW - glow sticks went out in about 1995. WE all made fun of them after that.

Oh and people are laughing at all of you on other boards.

-- Anonymous, November 13, 2002

BAHAHAH you people make me think theres some some conspiracy against "real raves"... that you're all a bunch of government-hired- puppets set loose on the internet to make the scene i love so much look bad.

People like you, who think dancing and fun are dependant upon drugs; insta-ravers like you, who care only abut pissing off your parents and getting "fucked up" and losing touch with responsibility. You don't even seem to CARE to learn about the history, respecting the roots, acting responsibly in the name of the music and the scene that you say you love so much.

You wanna rave it out all night? Drop the pretense. Drop the glow sticks. Drop the visors. Drop the CHILDISH act. Educate yourselves.

And yes, people all over the internet are laughing at YOU!

I suggest this site: http://www.hyperreal.org/

Go do your homework, unless you like chewing on your own foot.

-- Anonymous, November 14, 2002

Eyup USA

Rave ?

No "popin, breakin or otherwise" Sorry.

Sorry folks, rave started in Manchester / Leeds in the UK in the mid 80's, when we space cadets were into disco biscuits while y'all were, err, still young. Darn.

Im 42 now, and the first summer of love in Ibiza was erm '86 I think - cant remember cos I was off my nappa. There are good dancers, and there are great dancers, but a handful of people in the northern clubs of UK would make your jawz drop. Im a bit passed it now, unless Im on one, and I salute you U.S. ravers who truely understand :o)

-- Anonymous, November 19, 2002

teeheehee...glowsticks...AAHahahahaha :) hehe

anywayz, just wondering if Albert Baron (original poster)has realised all he needed to do was get out there and dance! it has been 2 years! (and seen what he's created with this thread haha)

...too many glowsticks make homer go something something...

-- Anonymous, November 28, 2002

Honestly, i was fasinated with seeing people lock and pop and rave liquid dancing, even just swing dancing. I starting going to my local teen night and started to observe many people and watch there styles then i went home cranked up the stereo and practiced different techniques and then started to throw in my own little things here and there. In addition you can download liquid pop videos off of KaZaA, but this is really hard becuase the lighting is horrible and they a really pro, so i dont suggest you d/l those unless you really know what your doing. You need to have the beat and good timing with the beat in your head, arms, legs, feet. You also have to practice sliding and gliding. Once i got those all down I pretty much got it and then went out and started wearing addidas for some reason? -Later

-- Anonymous, December 02, 2002

To learn how to "rave dance" is not hard at all. Honestly, from personal experience, you really cant learn how to dance by someone teaching you. Dancing is all about personal styles, which is what makes it look so good. If you have someone teach you, all that is being accomplished is the copying of a style from one person to another. To dance is to feel the music, and no one besides you can teach you what you feel. When I first started I just closed my eyes and let the music flow through me. I remember I asked one of my buddies one time if my liguid was any good. But when i said it he looked at me funny and said with these exact word "Dude it doesnt matter whatr other people think about your dancing its all about what you feel inside that matters. If the way your dancing now is what you feel, then your the shit. If its not what you feel, then you suck. But just so you know, i think your better then me and you should teach me some stuff you do!" It was pretty funny, but it made sence. I hope my advice comes in handy to you beginner ravers.........Oh and by the way , rolling helps beginners alot because xtc makes you forget about your surroundings and you dont care what other people thinmk sop there is no way to get embarraced. Peace out and dont forget about the most important thing......PLURR

-- Anonymous, December 24, 2002

let your body set the flow, the simplest thing you can do is let it all hang out. i sucked at first, but who doesn't. the absolute WORST thing u can do is remain stiff. Im still no good at liquid but i can freak alright and the worst look is stayin stiff.

-- Anonymous, January 20, 2003

hey alll raveing isnt just a dance its like why they call it trance it hypnotyzes u and lets u be free it dosent matter if u do it ur own special way or mimic the other ppls rve skills its all about how ulike to do it look im thirteen and i just started to rave and even though u may not be asian u can stil do it look im not azn eathr but i am nat.american and bi got i love it ad were im at there are somany ppl like the wole school dose rave atour dances in cluding th blacks hispanic there are alot of azn at my school and were im from but u just need to gibe it a try as ike says just do it pezaz outty

-- Anonymous, January 20, 2003

PEOPLE DON"T NEED FUCKINN XTC! DRUGS WILL RUIN YOUR LIFE WHETHER YOU ARE "RESPONSIBLE" OR NOT! IF YOU'RE ENBARASSED, GET OVER IT!

DRUGS RUIN LIVES DEATH OVERDOSE IS IT WORTH IT JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE A LITTLE SELF-CONSCIOUS?

-- Anonymous, January 25, 2003

Jake, Rob, and the others are right. Dance can't really be taught, it is all about personal expression. Yes, we can learn how to do certain movements, but unless these movements are what we are feeling when we are dancing, we are not being genuine, our movements will look stilted and cheesy and we will look stupid. If you want to learn how to dance, you have to start with yourself. Dance is all about how your body expresses itself as you surrender to the music. If you don't feel confident as a dancer, forget about comparing yourself to others or how you look, and remember that dance is your own personal expression as you allow your body to respond to the music. After about an hour or so of surrendering to the music, you will find your confidence and power. A lot of people are stiff on the floor or don't bother to dance because of what I've just said - they have the wrong idea about dance. Sometimes though people really are stiff cause they go through life holding unnatural body tensions and postures, their muscles and joints are tight or locked and their feelings are blocked. Maybe they weren't held enough in their life, or were deprived of touch, or were put down for expressing their emotions. Who knows. But the great thing about dance is that it can heal you, so even if you are stiff at first, your body will eventually free itself as you allow the music to play through you. Dance can take you on an inner journey in which you can access more levels of yourself, including the multidimensional aspects of you where you are tripping and in your full power. Yes, dance can evoke visionary and plurry experience without you ever taking drugs. Rave dance is a fusion of many styles, but it does have a direct link back to the ancient ecstatic dance of shamanic cultures through its link to trance. Dance can be much more than a form of entertainment. So where do you begin? Start by reconnecting with your body. Take your consciousness back into your body and shift your attention from thinking to sensation. Feel your body through your awareness of its sensations. Feel the sensation of weight, breath, and movement as you stand on the dance floor. Feel the sensation of touch, taste, smell, sight, and sound. Become aware of your joints and start to move them, keeping them relaxed and open. Feel how your hands connect to your heart through your wrists, arms, elbows, shoulders, and chest. Feel how your feet are connected to your pelvis and spine through your legs, knees, and hip sockets. Only when you start to get back into your body can you get the most out of dance. Honour your body for the amazing thing it is. Scan your body with your inner senses. Notice if there are areas of physical tightness or discomfort. Breathe into these places and send the rhythms there to fill them and liberate your body. As you listen to the music, hear it with your whole body, not just your ears. As it plays through your body, surrender to the music and allow your body to merge and intuitively move with the beat and ryhthms. There are no wrong steps! If you allow it, your body will move to the music in the right way for you and take you on a journey of power,healing, and ecstacy. By free-associating with the music and your movements, you will be tripping in no time. PLUR!

-- Anonymous, February 02, 2003

I think everyone has given all the possible responses to your question so I'm just gonna tell ya'll a story. I started dancing liquid and all that glowstick stuff like 2 years ago, I sucked at it, but got the basic shit down quick. Then I move to Germany, and I go to this underground club in Frankfurt called the U60311. Which is not only a Tight ass club, it's more like a whole other world. (Check out the Website). You can literally hear the the music coming out of the ground. When u first arrive everything is all chill, and The shit don't start until midnight or so. My first time there I go in there with glowstix and I was the ONLY ONE with them. I walk around and the people in there are fuckin dancing something I knew nothing about. I was like, "WHAT THE FUCK IS GOIN ON HERE?" The style of dance in Germany is completely different than the US. One is not better than the other, they're just different. I got very attached to the German scene, and I began to incorporate their moves with some old school shit. Everytime I listen to certain songs I close my eyes, and I can feel, smell, and taste that shit and it fuckin' gets me all sad and happy at the same time, Germany changed my life in a good way. I highly suggest U visit the place, for real. If you're into the XTC, K, Speed, etc... u might want to check this place out. The Average price for XTC is 10 dollars, u could get it for 5, or possibly free, sometimes the DJ will throw out hand fulls of rolls, depending on who was spinnin'. I'd purchase 100 rolls for $550 or 300 rolls for $875. Everyone knew the place was like "drugs-r'-us", so we would have lines of meth and k cut up on the tables n' shit and we'd burn spliffs; We would each eat around 5-9 pills each weekend, depending on strength and type. It is very hard to find good 'cid there though. Amsterdam was not very far so me had excellent 'shrooms and 'dro. Me and my homegirl would hit up U60 every Friday (techno/schranz night). Sometimes Saturday (House Night). This was EVERY WEEKEND!! I guess the word 'rave' can't be thrown around there, since the all night shit is so common over there. Everytime we left the clubs over there, it would be about 8-9am, the sun all in our faces, and we were NEVER encountered by the Polizei(Police), ever. I heard some of the best djs - Sven Vath, DJ Rush, Chris Liebing, Johannes Heil...- at that club. I haven't been to a rave, and I haven't done drugs since I've been here in the states... ...the music, the people, and all my EXPERIENCES, whether sober or fucked up, is MY DRUG. It runs through my system everyday. Germany got me people, it has really got into my head and my heart. I have dreams about this shit... Now I'm all sad. :( but happy too :) Can u tell I used to smoke tweak? I didn't warn u that I am the worst Storyteller ever, and there is never a point or I'll go off into my own world or even forget what I'm talkin about!! All my friends are aware of this trait of mine, see, they just know that I won't make any point to my fuckin story so they never listen. I just needed someone to listen to let all this shit out!...So if u are still reading my reply right now, u are either one patient motherfucker, or u were actually interested in my story. I'm surprised I'm still writing this shit. Ok I better stop before I start goin off on the history of the hambuger or some retarded shit like that... I'm retarded, too; I'm sure u figured that out, but it's ok. Peace out, k8

-- Anonymous, February 03, 2003

hey was it just me or was half of that story about drugs?

-- Anonymous, February 11, 2003

sorry, no disrespect, but that question made me feel real uneasy. the whole idea of the rave community is to share love and respect. u must understand that u can not learn to become a good dance, although u will develop your own style in time. dance how u like and we will love u for it. come as u are and we will prasie u for it. dance like a fool and we will commend u for it!!

Plur as always, Nooski, White Russian

-- Anonymous, February 26, 2003

hi everyone, the rave scene aint bout drugs and shit. yall asses are crazy. but to learn how to rave, you just gotta go out there and do ur thang, feel da music, and let it flow. no one can teach you how ta dance cuz dancing is just feeing the musica n moving to it. stop thinking and juz feel. *~PeAce LuV uNiTy ReSpEcT~*

-- Anonymous, March 02, 2003

1st time i went to a rave i was so self consious about dancing to hard house. but then i got into it and just went 4 it! fit men danced with me they said i was a good dancer. i was so shocked! but all u need are ur mates and ur glow sticks and ull have a good time! x1 luvx

-- Anonymous, March 10, 2003

best way to become real good at raving.... baha how fuk lame.

signed Jaded Sydney Raver

-- Anonymous, March 14, 2003

the best way to become real good at raving is the wear a pink shirt, cross your legs and pluck your eyebrows.

spammed by GNACS

-- Anonymous, March 14, 2003

*speechless cos my gut hurts from laughing so fukn hard*

this entire page better be the biggest g-up ever or i'm afraid for the human race at the moment :D please help me become a better raver?

-- Anonymous, March 14, 2003

i cant believe ppl over in usa have to ask how to dance 'properly' this is the biggest gee-up!

i cant believe it hahhahahaha

-- Anonymous, March 14, 2003

you farkin shitcunts

-- Anonymous, March 14, 2003

the REAL trick to going mental is FUCKLOADS of pills and acid

BOOYAKASHA!!!

fuckin shitcunts

-- Anonymous, March 14, 2003

heheheh, FLAME THIS SHITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just like to tell alla you dum shitcunts that this thread is well ghey, love from australia... - Wayno :P

oh yeah, werd to JimJams and TENG, they kno where it's at.

-- Anonymous, March 15, 2003

In the main 'dance' capital Down Under here in Australia.... We call it the suffle!!! It's all in the feet...! You just have to listen to the music and know when the breaks are coming!! Start with just a couple of moves then watch others and add them to your style.... When it comes to dancing though... normally you either have it or you don't!!! Best thing about the rave scene, no one gives a shit how you look and if they do care, it's them that are out of place because they don't belong!! xxxx

-- Anonymous, March 19, 2003

Back in the 80's I was breakdancing (I am 35 yrs old now)...since I was 21 I have been going to our local Los Angeles clubs to club dance (boring) until a good friend took me to vegas, rolled, and handed me some glow sticks. I have not returned to the regular clubs at all. Since I already knew how to breakdance (pop, crazy legs, and pop-lock) I just started doing it. I became very good at it and now, a year later, rollers stand in line for a liguid light show, vapor, and massage. My non-dancing girl friend joins in and even does a light show now. She really wants to learn to liguid.

Anyway....I here all of you that want to learn how to liquid. My rave friends constantly ask me to teach them and HONESTLY I want to learn some of the moves I see in the clubs today also. The fact is there is a market for a "how to" video or at least a video showing what is out there.

Someone please put a video together and share it with the rest of. As everyone has said before, you have to feel it....but it does help to see and study others. Then it is all about practice. Your own style will just come!!!

Good luck to all

-- Anonymous, March 22, 2003

IF ANYBODY KNOWS SOME PHATASS BLOW UP TRICKS EMAIL ME THANX

-- Anonymous, April 03, 2003

If listening to the the music and moving to an extremely simple 4/4 beat is too complicated for you, you should probably start wearing a bicycle helment 24 hours a day.

And try not to breed.

-- Anonymous, April 07, 2003

"And try not to breed"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I mean... ahem... drugs are bad, bad, bad things. For your sake, and ours, and the entire RAVE (notice the RAVE, not DRUG) scene, don't do them. You will be the downfall of the comunity, and you are keeping thousands of people away from the scene. Becuase of you, the entire community is known as a place for drugs like X. You are bringing in loads and loads of druggies, but keeping away people who might be insterested in the scene. Many parents do their research on the net, and even more WATCH THE NEWS. Drugs are bad. Now, some DARE subliminal messages for you:

DAB ERA SGURD! DAB ERA SCURD! DAB ERA SCURD!

-- Anonymous, April 21, 2003

dude where is the rave scene in Los angeles for ppl under 18

thanx

-- Anonymous, May 05, 2003

Hey peps.Raveing is something that comes within your mind and soul.It is'nt something u learn.I always meditate before going to raves,so then my mind is more open to what the dj is trying to make me feel through the music.The first rave i went to i was all scared to do anything then i met a few raver peps and they showed me how they were just getting into the beat letting the glowsticks do what they felt.A true Raver knows it comes from the soul of the music.If ya need any tips though just e-mail me.PEACE!

-- Anonymous, May 14, 2003

Any ravers from the UK here?

-- Anonymous, May 17, 2003

hi.... iam ucha from jakarta INdonesia, i've been raving since tear 2000 and its not about the dance its about who you are! the more you get rave, the more you'l understand

-- Anonymous, May 27, 2003

I dunno, I just get out there and move to the music. I like to have my glow sticks with me, so I don't care about you people that don't like them. I don't take X or any of the drugs because I don't wanna get up on that shite. You just gotta remember..Raving=FUN...you just enjoy it, you move how you want. You can sit back and watch people, try to imitate them, but you're moving to their feel of the music and not your own. Let the music and the beat take you and enjoy it. You have to be really crazy if the music CAN'T move you. I guess my main advice is glow sticks and moving your hands with them. It looks f***in' awesome in the dark!! Twirling them around each other, make it kinda like like a rollercoaster or somethin'...it works! I'm not real good with the feet movement thing, though, I just move the body. I have the problem of hitting regular hip hop clubs with friends (techno and raving isn't a big thing here in Southwest Missouri), I have the tendency to get drunk with them and THEN my body moves in ways it shouldn't. I think that's one of the reasons people are up on some of this shite, so they move to the music better. All I know is that I'm in pain the next day. But, it's still fun. But, yeah, like I said, it's all just fun. Just get out there and f***in' enjoy it!

-- Anonymous, May 31, 2003

This is amazing. This guys question has been being answered for like four years. That is fucking awsome. I started raving way the fuck back in October 1993 in Toronto Canada, and I still go to parties once in a while. I'm into breaks so I don't do the liquid so much but I incorperate it into my style. Thats what it's all about, finding your style. Shit I go to hip hop clubs, and rock clubs, and it don't matter how old I get I'm always gonna dance like a mutha fuckin RAVER, cause that's my style. I am fucking stoked that you guys are still so into this shit, it's like making me feel all nostalgic. Fuckin right party on girls and boys.

-- Anonymous, May 31, 2003

Yo Yo Yo. I seen how cool it is that yall are helpin this cat out. And as mr. dude above said...It's been four fuckin years so I bet yall really helped him out. Anyway I was hopin yall could help me out to. Like I don't get a chance to go to that many raves, so people if you could send me stuff or something it would really help. Thanks

-- Anonymous, June 03, 2003

Your all gay.

-- Anonymous, June 05, 2003

Sorry I meant 'you're all gay'

-- Anonymous, June 05, 2003

i cant see straight from laughing so hard!!! you guys are fucking faggots!!!! you just go to a rave get REALLY fucked by taking like 7 pills and 2 tabs of acid and just do whatever comes to mind. its all about the drugs! the more fucked you get the better dancer you are!!

FUCKING FAG SHITCUNTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, June 10, 2003

For a while now i have wanted to learn to rave. I use to go to clubs and pop pills ect and dance (rave), but now that i dont do drugs anymore I feel like imma get out there and make an ass of myself. when i was rollin it came naturally but i dont want to fuk with dat shit ne more. is there a vid or somethin i can watch so i can get the hang of it again?

-- Anonymous, August 03, 2003

oh please can i be cool and go to a rave too? xtc is fully sick eh?

-- Anonymous, August 31, 2003

hello is not a answer but any1 tell were and whereat are the cool rave events at im and L.A that's south bay area about 10min from the lax anyways were are the best envets and October email me plzs' G8119@aol.com thank you,,

-- Anonymous, October 02, 2003

i love raving...i actually onlee tried it lyk 3 days ago! im only 13 so i dont take ne of that pills shit but i just got out there during a rave contest even tho ive never tried it b4 and just went with it...it was AWESOME!! i didnt kno wut i was doing but it looked cool neway. it doesnt mater wut u do exactly cuz u can usually onlee see the glo stix and not ur hands and the glo stix look cool no matter wut.

-- Anonymous, October 03, 2003

I've been Ravin since i was 13 Fool! It all started out from my bro. i watched him get his rave on and i was like hey this shit is tite. I started dancin and im like kick ass at it now. I saw a few DJ's Live in Dallas. Dj Irene, Oakfold and a few more. Ive been to hella tite Rave Parties and shit. But the main thing is just to feel the music. if u dont know wut ur dancin to GET OFF THE FUCKIN SCENE. You dont need to be trippin' on E either. just gotta stick ur head in the wave and roll with the beat. - peace

-- Anonymous, October 18, 2003

wow im kinda amazed that a post has gone on for this long but anyways i was hoping if any1 could help me with booty dance(i had homecoming last night and even though i got 11 girls i really didnt kno wat i was doing) any1 kno anythin thatd help?

-- Anonymous, October 26, 2003

i guess watching videos does help...but, the most part is just creativity...liquiding is something you teach yourself, you have to be determined to do it, you can't watch someone and learn it right off the bat..it isn't some illusion, it's an actual talent...breaking is mainly based on practice, get some friend to teach you, it helps...raving is just 'go with the flow you feel', get the beat of the music, take glow sticks, and move the way you feel like... i started liquiding since i was 7, my sister's 12 years older than i am so it helped...i didn't know i was really liquiding until i was 11 and i only practiced when i was bored...people think it's so amazing that i do this now, i'm 12, and somehow, they're surprised that a girl does this...since i've never been at raves or anything...just some stuff that helped me out for raving: pick up the basic moves from friends (figure 8), practice a little (but don't get too attached to it), use some creativity for moves, watch some videos... you can't exactly judge yourself in raving/liquiding/popping so don't...get better by improving yourself, watch yourself in the mirror and see if it looks right or not...video taping yourself helps too...but most of all, go to a dance/club/rave and just show off...the people's reactions give you the grade, if you get a crowd of people just staring at you, amazed..well you're doing pretty good...you might even have people personally asking you to rave for them... PLUR and good luck

-- Anonymous, November 06, 2003

This is a pretty normal question that msot people ask when they think that people wil laugh at them because of how they dance. When you get up to dance, whether it's at a rave or a club jsut dance oyur own style, don't try to do what everyone else is doing. Poeple don't (at least they shouldn't) judge how you dance, if so fuckem!!! I dress how i want and i da=nce how i want and if i try to do what everyone else does then im not really original!!! so do your own thing and have fun because raves are all about dacing your ass off to phat beats!!! so don't worry about how to dance, do your own thing!!!

-- Anonymous, November 12, 2003

i just happen to surf by. im from columbia sc, been dancin now for 21 yrs. lookin at some of the dates. i dont know whos still around, and whos still wanting to know what?! but you can email me, with any quiestions or screen names to chat. im sure i can help with info parties maybe even people in your area. nut just albert. anybody

-- Anonymous, November 19, 2003

fuck all the bull shit just get out there and fuckin dance the way ur boddy and mind tell u 2 fuck every thing eles! 666 666 666 666satan loves you666

-- Anonymous, December 30, 2003

The only reason I'm posting this is because it seems that there are a bunch of posts which concern raves, rave history, and the general bashing of so called false-ravers, while there is litte actuall information regarding the SIMPLE BASIC WAYS to move your body so that you can BEGIN to form your own style. How is a person supposed to know how to just move to the music by feeling it, when they've never done it before!

Now I'm not saying I'm a master, and I'm not hating on anyone, but I dance because of the feeling of pure exstatic joy I get while doing it. I've never been to a rave, and around here that's not uncommon. I saw someone doing a simple wave with their hands and got interested. I looked online just to find some moves, but I couldn't get anything but glowstick info. So I'll try to explain some basic things below.

********BASIC INFO: *A big part of liquid is having one hand lead, while the other follows. *Don't even try to learn unless you are willing to practice a lot. *Smooth not rigid *Do it for fun, not just to look phat

********HAND WAVE: Basically this is when you have both hands facing each other, and they create a wave. Probably the best way to learn this is to learn a hand at a time. If you've ever seen a snake or an eel move, you've seen the motion you want your hand to make. Your fingers make a HUGE part of the illusion! Whichever hand you lead with (I lead with left) when the wave goes up you curl your fingers like you're holding a cup, then to go down you straighten your fingers slowly then bend then as far back as they go. All the while you move your hand in a wave motion. Once you have one hand down, all you have to do is follow the finger tips with the other hand, and eventually you'll smooth things out.

********FIGURE EIGHT: Not quite the same as with glow sticks. Find out how to do it glowstick style somewhere else where they have a movie or something (easy to find), it's too hard to understand with just words. Once you have it down, to do it liquid style, it's sorta like the wave but you incorporate the wave motion of your hands into the figure eight.

********LEG WAVE: A fairly simple move. The easiest way I can explain the motion is that it's like thrusting while having sex. It's all in the hips. You have to stand on your toes and trust, letting your knees bend out, then bend back smoothly. Think of belly dancers. After you've got the legs down the whole body wave is simply just adding your upper torso into the wave action by sorta shrugging your shoulders and lifting your chest.

********Drugs: Before you start hating let me just say that drugs dont make you a good dancer, but they do help to let you understand how to move in ways that you never even thought of. I've never done ex, but I've taken shrooms and when I dance on shrooms, it's an unworldly experience. If you have something to say about drugs not helping you liquid dance, then you're an idiot. Not only do you feel the music, but your body just knows where it's going and the flow is ultimate. But the best thing is the orgasmic, goose-bump inducing climax of a song while completely given to the music,.... it is 100 times better, than the most joyous feeling I've ever had. Unfortunately drugs can't make you the best dancer ever just by munching some. To be good you have to practice a lot, and give yourself to the music.

-- Anonymous, January 02, 2004

Like most of the people have said, there is no worng way to dance at a Rave. I never danced at all before attending parties and it was a big eye opener for me that such an accpeting community existed. It's really unique in the fact that you do have an ability to express yourself through dance anyway which you feel like you should.

-- Anonymous, January 05, 2004

Drugs don't help you dance better, they fsck with your mind and make you think you're dancing better. Even if they did, what's the point? If you take drugs, you very easily be screwed over for life. Go ahead, think I'm lying. You're problem, not mine.

-- Anonymous, January 13, 2004

Donna whimpered and moaned like she was in heaven. She gave a little yelp as she felt a finger enter her anus - then another. Soon their were three fingers stretching her brown hole open. A little gas escaped as Donna farted. Another finger pressed against her clit and began to circle it - bringing her to new heights of pleasure. Mr. Harris placed his other hand firmly against her mouth and pressed his filthy fingers against her lips. Sensing what he wanted, Donna opened her mouth and began sucking tenderly on his fingers. The smell of her fart filled the room with a whorish odor and the men just chuckled and laughed, they were certainly going to have fun with her. One of the pimps stepped up behind her and pressed his cock against her ass.

"Bend over Donna.....that's a good girl...spread your hiney for me......oh isn't she adorable Ed?" "She sure is....I'll bet she'll make a nice prostitute for us." replied Mr. Harris. The pimp slid his cock into her anus slowly. Her ass had already been stretched from his three fingers and was receiving the invasion without any resistance. The men held her firmly as she stooped forward with her ass in the air. Now her head was level with Mr. Harris's cock. Slowly he removed his fingers - they were lubricated with Donna's saliva. Then he pressed his cock against her dirty lips. "Open your mouth Donna.....that's a good girl....say ahh!" commanded Mr. Harris as he shoved his fat smelly cock into her waiting mouth. Donna felt full of penis meat. Her ass was being stretched to the limit with the pimp's cock and her mouth was loaded with Mr. Harris's smelly tool. The other pimp continued to jam his fingers into her cunt and wiggle them around - coating them with slutty goo. Mr. Harris grabbed her ears and thrust her head violently onto his massive prick. The stupid whore lapped and slurped away at his penis - savoring all of his filthy juices. Her mouth almost instantly became coated with his hot sticky sperm. It sprayed violently all over the inside of her mouth. Donna felt another load gush all over the inside of her dirty brown poo poo hole. Her head was spinning under the intoxication of the injection and she barely felt the other pimp shove his fist into her gaping cunt. Slowly he wormed his fist all around her slut womb coating it with pussy goop. After he saw Mr. Harris pull out, he withdrew his fist from her vagina and held it up to her nose. "Lick it sweetheart.....that's all you're good for from now on.....doing as you are told!" said the masculine pimp. Donna opened her mouth - letting a pile of sperm ooze out onto her lips and chin. Tentatively she darted her sweet little tongue out and lapped gently at the gooey fist like a cute little animal. Donna felt more sperm leak out of her dirty bottom and onto the oak floor. She looked so adorable lapping away like a little pig with the whorish collar around her neck. She was now a slave to heroin - as well as Mr. Harris's evil sex ring. The next few days passed by quickly for Donna. She was kept highly drugged while she was trained to be compliant, submissive, and deeply appreciative to the men within the sex ring. She kept her collar on at all times and was trained to be very proud of it. Her vagina was shaved so that it looked like a little girl's pee pee hole and she was treated like a queen by Mr. Harris.

-- Anonymous, January 20, 2004

WoW! You are just a whole lot of messed up arent you buddy ... poor guy .. I'd say it's a safe bet to say your life didnt turn out the way you wanted it to .. ha ha .. Peace - Love - Rave

-- Anonymous, February 15, 2004

Thats it you little fucks this board is shutting down because i have found myself a beutiful man im going to run away with i love taking it up the ass big black rubber dildos mmmm my fav

-- Anonymous, February 17, 2004

I'm only 13 years old and I can rave bad ass all I do isyou put your fingers together and then just do the worm with your hands and in about a week are less than one spread them about one inch apart and then do it and when you get good at it maybe you can do it with one hand and then the other hand ha ha ha oright!

-- Anonymous, February 17, 2004

anyone know how to do that crazy toe touch dance? kinda looks like walking inplace but then your on your toes and doin kicks and spinning around? yeah id like to learn that. i see that all up here in the north east but i never saw it in sothern california...

-- Anonymous, February 25, 2004

Ok, heres the go..you shouldnt care what people think. you go to raves to have fun and do what you wana do. once your off ya fkn guts, u'll have no problems. just jump around and move your arms in the air like wave motions and soon enough you'll fit right in. no one will probably realise if your new to the rave scene or if your a shit dancer..they'll all be fkn rollin..any troubles..give as a yell..keep it reallz..PLUR! peace out

-- Anonymous, March 04, 2004

hey listen guys. i really need to to know how to dance. i try to feel the music, but i just go crazy and i look like a fag. lol is there any sites out there that have like pics or something that show u how its done?

-- Anonymous, March 09, 2004

hey guys! i read some of the commnets! well im still frustrated! im new and hav tried! newbie pritty much here! mabe someone could email me wit tips or steps or somthing video w/e

thanks

-- Anonymous, March 14, 2004

there is no proper way to raving it,s all about being yourself and who you are, no1 givs a fuk about any1's dancing cause they're all off they're frickin gutz! close your eyes visualize the music till you single out that one beat for your and let your body flow w/ that beat in any direction you want it, If it makes you feel any better i'm see people using an imaginery pushing lawn mower at raves, and people pretending to be tea pots pouring tea! X_pression...

-- Anonymous, March 30, 2004

Just go and have fun. You can't learn to dance from looking at pictures. Videos might help a bit...but then you are just copying someone else. Just go...relax...and do what feels natural.

Just remember...try not to bounce into/hit people...it'll piss them off.

Oh, and if you wanna sit down...the middle of the dancefloor is not the place. =P

-- Anonymous, March 31, 2004

Yeah my friend raves all the time. Its so cool. He's goth and loves raves. He's thirteen. It shocks me. My other friend can rave too.

The other night I was watching this movie with Samuel L Jackson it takes place in a rave (one scene) and all of a sudden I fell in love with this music and i'm not goth or occult it was so weird.

Now I'm like desperate to learn, I know I make my own style but can someone give me some tips and e-mail them to me? Thanx

-- Anonymous, April 03, 2004

So after about 5 years or so of posts to this thread did the dude who asked this question get his/her/it's answer?!?!?!

-- Anonymous, April 25, 2004

yeah, i just wanna know what happened to the hopeless kid who started this thread. i mean, i dont think he needs anymore advice. four years comments. now where is he.

-- Anonymous, April 29, 2004

This was hillarious when I saw it. why are people still posting an answer to this guy's question?????

-- Anonymous, April 30, 2004

This thread makes me so happy. How cool that people have been talking about feeling the joy of raving for 4 years +. I stumbled across this site after googling ["how to" rave dance] because I'm a newbie on the scene and, like him, want to figure out how to do all this cool shit. I can dance okay mainstream, but the liquid moves and the glowsticks are just neat. Surely someone's made a video by now! Just to get us newbies started... Peace out. Hey, if you're in Detroit, check out "detroitclubscene.com"

-- Anonymous, May 04, 2004

that is funny, because I have reached this page the same way, although I have been dancing for 3 years and been in the scene for 2, I am trying to learn how to pop, I can do liquid very well, and there are videos on line that teach you how to do some liquid and shit.

http://www.spraci.com/directory/usa/resources/

go to that web site, they have some good links.

also try: www.liquiding.com

-- Anonymous, May 06, 2004

I am hoping I am speaking to my son Christopher Robin. Chris I was surfing the net and ran across this ad. I hope this is you come by and see your old man once in a while. Hope you are doing ok. Scott comes home on the 1st of June.

Dad 5/7/04

-- Anonymous, May 08, 2004

i actually have a question sorry didnt know where to go to ask it...i am really into learning how to do that foot work where you kick up your feet and spins and stuff and everytime i practice it, it doesnt look right and is just the same stuff over and over again, i cant get my legs to do all different stuff and spins and stuff i know im not supposed to worry about how it looks or whatever but really you cant help that feeling, does ne1 have ne kind of tips for me to get me started??

-- Anonymous, May 21, 2004

who the fuck has been using my screen name to offer free tapes? fuckin homos...

-- Anonymous, May 23, 2004

Ne OnE HeRe fRoM LoWeR Ny EmAiL mE iM lOOkiNg FoR SoMe RaVeRs 2 gO W/

-- Anonymous, May 26, 2004

so..wait...you just feel the music and dance to what you feel...and you wont be laughed out of the house? cool... am i understanding this right? gd

-- Anonymous, June 07, 2004

times have changed in 5 years...

-- Anonymous, June 09, 2004

can sum 1 just give me a site that i can watch ppl raving

-- Anonymous, June 16, 2004

DO WHATEVER THE FLYIN FUCK YAH WANT. TRIPPIN, OR NOT.

-- Anonymous, June 22, 2004

When it comes to rave dancing and liquid whatever you want to call it sometimes you just have to let your body move in the beat of the music. I honestly think that the music you listen to is the key to the dancing style that you like. I listen to Trance and Rave stuff like that. By liquid dancing I have learned that women are turned on by the fact that a guy can move his body like that. ;) Happy raving. A good cd to look for in dance music is Happy2BHardcore dance music. Also if you are looking for some form of lights spencers gifts co. if you have one near by to where you live they normally have something of that sort. I just got some whole hand lights that are bitch'n. And if someone tells you that going to raves is just a way to get high tell them to go to hell because ravers are different from drug addicts

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2004

i've been to about 2 raves if n e one could email me some foot movements just to get me started id apretiate it peace,love, unity and don't stop ravin

-- Anonymous, July 08, 2004

Where are the raves in NC? I've been out of the scene for a few years and tryin' to find out where to go or who to know?

-- Anonymous, July 14, 2004

raving is old..and dont ask me for free tapes because i didnt post my email there

-- Anonymous, July 15, 2004

Pop bickies for 7 months and you'll have style.

-- Anonymous, July 27, 2004

I'm an old raver that goes to raves for the music and the vibe, not the drugs. Don't get me wrong, go out and experience the scene. It's nothing like you ever known. A world wide community you can tap into every night, no matter were you live. It's all around you. The only difference is I'm 30 now and still love to attend raves. I'm not taking E any more and I still have just as much fun. Always keep in mind that drugs will age you quicker and put you out of the scene. If you love the scene that much, try and experience it SOBER. I love the music and the people. I would'nt do anything anymore that would take that away from me. I love life to much to put it in jeprody. Peace out to all. joe

-- Anonymous, August 03, 2004

Yo fuck this weak mad shit yo....Kazaa Lite's got tha new Asian Wunder shits yo..rappin over hard House -n- shit.....fuck it dawg, if you still don't know how to dance, then i say fuck it. you started this shit back in like, what, 1999?!! This weak-ass website is nothing on threads muthafucka.....Cop that Asian Wunder shit, you stoopid ass chinks!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, August 30, 2004

i rolled for the first time the other day and i was tripping hard...i had seen ppl rave before and i had tried but i could never seem to do it rite...well after 2 christmas trees and a superman i was doing better than just about everyone in there...theres really nothing to it...most of the ppl around u are rolling to so all u have to do is turn off the lights and get some glow sticks and start doing what feels good...if ur really rolling that hard then ull kno what to do....just roll ur arms and fingers around...like ur holding a bubble...i even need to explain it...let the x do all the work...besides if u cant rave and nobody around u thinks ur good then fuck it...watch an x-box with some techno....lol..later

-- Anonymous, September 06, 2004

I really want to learn how to Liquid dance but I can't really seem dance where everything just flows together. LoL. I'd really like to do Glowsticking aswell. I think if you know how to liquid, you can glowstick really cool too. I've seen some, how to do Figure 8 clips, but I haven't been all that successful...Does anyone know any sites that provide clips or explantions on how to do basic glowsticking...or liquiding?? Yeah and I have tried "glowstringing" or Poi...but I got whacked in the head too many times. LoL -Thanks in advanced! Squishy Star

-- Anonymous, September 06, 2004

**Sighs** Wow bunches of replies..Let the music grab you and take you in you'll see that you dont wanna sit down and watch..you wanna be the star of the show...Dont worry bout judgement...just let your spirit be lifted away by the music...good luck

-- Anonymous, September 07, 2004

I just want to know how many people on here have overdosed, sold their body for drugs, or remain locked up due to mental deterioration since the first posting. :)

-- Anonymous, September 14, 2004

Look....first off....just like everyone else said,dont copy anyone for anything...because thats just not liquid dancing if its not ur ideas and creativity...and u gotta move to the beat and go with the flow..let the music take control of your body and let ur arms move to the beat...its as simple as that...and you'll probably be rollin nuts anyways so you'll know what i mean...but only worry about u on the dance floor...everyone else is havin fun just like u!Just keep it real!lata...and keep poppin them X!

-- Anonymous, September 15, 2004

just look at other people and let the music take control its like a wave going through ure body and just brake ure glowsticks and rave if u look at other people style u can put them together and have ure own style

-- Anonymous, October 13, 2004

When i go to a club i always worryed about what ppl think of how a dance, so i stop dancing this made the club seen boring, Don't worry about how you look just freak out on the music then let you body do the rest And if you still worry about how you look , just look around and you will c ppl making asses of thenself how thay dance ( there is allway sume1 worce then you, Well thats if you DANCE BEFUCK He he he Cheers PPL ( With LOVE from Teddy )take lots of E that helps.

-- Anonymous, October 16, 2004

damn im freakin 15 n i barly started to dance to techno n rebling music, it aint that hard its just how u move ur body n have funn, take a lil x or a shroom or 2 then plap! there ya go ur raveing like a mutha-fuka, i grew up mostly c-walkin n breakin its bout tha same shit n its fun as hell too raving iz goin back to stomping so now pplz practice them stomps or stay orignal n keep ur tie foot work. *peace pplz* ohh all ya'll gurlz out there holla at me

-- Anonymous, October 19, 2004

U DNT NEED ANY DRUGZ, ALL U NEED IS TO FEEL THE MUSIC AND NOT BE AFRAID OF PPL WATCHING U. GRAB A COUPLE OF GLOWSTICKS AND INTERVINE UR HANDS TOGETHER TO MAKE SMALL GLOW BALLS.THEN START PLAYIN WITH THE BALL BY PASSING IT OVER AND UNDER UR ARMS. MOVE UR FEET ASWELL TO FEEL THE MOVES. I AM 15 AND I CAN RAVE BETTA DAN MOST PPL. JST WATCH GD RAVERS "HAND DANCE" AND WATCH THEIR TECHNIQUE WITH THIER HANDZ. GET USED TO 1 TECHNIQUED AND MODIFY IT BY ADDING A BIT ON SUCH AS A DJ SCRATCHING OR A CLOCK ARM OR A BIT OF SLOW-MO. IF U WANT ANYMORE TIPZ E-MAIL ME

-- Anonymous, October 22, 2004

Damn this has been going since 1999 :-X

-- Anonymous, November 02, 2004

I started partying back in Febuary of this year (2004) ... Although i've been dancing for about a year. When I first started to party I went for the drugs : That's all I thought the Vancouver scene was about. Although since that time drugs don't really fufill that excitment anymore. E is a dumb drug. If everyone would just learn to go for the dancing and the music excluding the drugs we would all have a much cleaner rave scene nowadays.

In response to the "I wanna learn how to rave dance ..." question. Only certain things can be taught. Much has to be learned on your own : : : Popping, tutting, locking, liquid, waving, gliding, animation, strobing, botting, ticking and 2-step ETC all just takes practice. Some are much harder then other's. But all of them can be learned with enough practice :)

-- Anonymous, November 02, 2004

YO raving/dancing doesn't require drugs or anything else... once you get over that no one is really watching you and get in a "zone" that's when the good styles come out... no one's eyes are gonna drift to bad dancers only the ones pulling off fat moves... for cool dance styles this is the BEST site I found yet... incorporating some of this into raving is a great way to go.......

<<<<<<<<< http://www.style2ouf.com/FR/videos/ >>>>>>>>>>>>

-- Anonymous, November 07, 2004

eat xtc, move your feet, and flap your hands around. that's all rave dancing is. nothing hard about it. anyone can do it. it looks pretty cool only if your rolling other than that it's really gay.

-- Anonymous, November 12, 2004

you'll just feel the beat take control and then move with it. take it at your own pace and do what you feel is comfortable. its all about having a good time.

-- Anonymous, November 19, 2004

ok, 4 years later and this thread still hasn't made any progress. first of all to that gook who was "flowin" over hard house, 4/4 can suck a fat nut. to tha StarKidz (house/trance fags) fuck your 4/4. To all you happy hardcore loving fruits, get your fucking cuddle puddle out of our dance floor bwoy, or yous about to get the mampi boot to your dome, feel me? Breakers, keep poppin it out, propper mashin it up, and to the junglist and headbangaz alike, remember, fuck tollerance, kick the cuddle puddle and fuck all those who aren't elite enough for the dub. BooM click BooM Rudebwoy. Big up the mampi swift, the ic3, the dillinja, the lemon D, big up the rudebwoy TwoFace. big up all the jungle crew inside the place, respect, inside to all the crews, you know who you be, not wastin time with that four to the floor beat.

Mash it up propa,

MC DEV

-- Anonymous, November 27, 2004

sickle bwoy, that be my real email, give me some hate or some love.

pace.

-- Anonymous, November 27, 2004

i can tbelieve this fucken thread is still around dam...i havnt gone to any raves yet but i will soon.

-- Anonymous, December 11, 2004

I was just searching for the same answer to the original question from 4 years ago...it seems I just have to close my eyes and let the beat take it course...so what if I make an ass out of myself...ATL raves are the bomb but I know it can't compare to NYC raves... I'll take whatever I can get at this point...peace

-- Anonymous, December 12, 2004

I have 3 simple tips 1) get a pair of glowsticks 2) get on the floor 3) Drop a cap

do those things in any order, give it a party or two and you'll be pro. No one can tell you what's 'good' dancing. Everyone has their own style. That's so important in the scene. Your dancing is who you are. Don't try to learn or copy who you are. Just feel it -- the beat, the music, the bass, the ENERGY

~KAT

-- Anonymous, December 20, 2004

Another thing info wise. Dance! wether you use glowstick or not it's up to you. when I started dancing for the very first time this is the first thing I noticed (thanx e) I have a slight bounce in my step, not jumping, but moving up and down on my toes. This bounce went to the beat of the music in the room. Once that makes sence start adding your arms into it. It's 3 different parts wrists elbows and shoulders. After that comes the body movement. Leaning you torso in every direction to go with you feat arms and the beat of the music. Most importantly -- relax. Trust me, people are too fucked up and into their own thing to watch. This is just how I got it, I don't think you need to MEMORIZE the moves to be a good glowsticker. You also do NOT need vidios. Just glance around at others dance... don't copy, just try to get the hang of the basics. There's nothing better then seeing something new and fresh in the scene. If everyone just keeps doing the figure 8 that's not ganna be much fun is it?

~KAT

-- Anonymous, December 20, 2004

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-- Anonymous, December 22, 2004

YOU CANT LEARN HOW TO DANCE FROM WORDS!!!!!

Go to a club and dance. Shut your eyes and just dance.

I have a feeling we do things in oz a lot different to you seppos. Might have to make a trip over so i can dance circles around your arses.

-- Anonymous, January 05, 2005

I agree with most of the above, sort out some sweet eez well in advance to avoid cat medicen, as for ravin gear. for the typical rave look get huge baggy combats some cumfy sneakers a smiley top or any phsychodelick stuff (tie die if your good) and a dear stalker hat. as for dancin. only the hypacrits haters and thgose who have dropped funny pills will judge u, get some glows and nock out some shapes, once u can glow wave and bop away learn the crazy leggs breeakbeat rave and rave walk if things turn happy hardcore, peace love unity and respect dont neck to many and always eat well before going out on a blinder.

-- Anonymous, January 07, 2005

dude screw the friggin' xtc, "going with the beat," and "u jux needsta feel da muzik." oh for the love of god. sometimes, it's not that simple. naturally, you probably are never going to read this little piece of feedback, but the point is if you are a deprived child and don't have many nearby raves.. lets just say you live in.. oh.. tennessee.. and there isn't much access to these stuffies around there, forget imitating people and go on a site. for instace, glowsticking.com, rave videos.. anything you can get your hands on. or ask someone who knows, man. get some cds, get some neon shit in your doo, rub glitter all over yourself, learn some basics and your set to go you little shnoogum. oh yes. ddr helps.

-- Anonymous, January 14, 2005

Hey guys, this is a bit off topic but I saw a post on ecstasy and figured I'd post.

Me & my man want to try some exctasy but we've no idea where to go or what to do, and we're afraid to buy from a stranger because we don't want to be ripped off or given something that isn't the real deal (or worse yet, get caught by a cop in disguise). Does anyone knows any specific place where we can go? A club, maybe? We live in NYC. We've been to clubs and stuff and tried to see if we can hook up with ravers but we don't really know much about how to do it, or where. We're in our early 30s so we aren't connected to the campuses and the YOUNG young crowd, LOL. But we love trying new things. We've been together 10 years (anniversary next month) so we want to do something wild and special and YES we've researched it well and know what it's about.

Anyway, can someone help please? Thanks in advance! ~ Jade (j-a-d-e@verizon.net)

-- Anonymous, January 17, 2005

look X is honestly no big deal. i honestly couldn't tell you if even one of the pills i have took in the past was extacy. even if your best friend can get you some theres guarentee they will be MDMA.

ask yourself...is it really worth all the damage they do to you, or even possibly is it worth dying over.

if you must take some i'd advise doing half a pill first to make sure you dont react badly to it

-- Anonymous, January 18, 2005

can sum 1 give me advice as a beginer i mite b goin 2 this cool rave party and i need sum good tips 4 a begginer

-- Anonymous, January 24, 2005

http://www.glowstickswinging.com/poi_lessons.php

A very good link for glowstick tricks and moves. Remember! Practice makes perfect!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, January 25, 2005

hahah, i've never even danced before in my life. i did E for the first time this weekend, all i can say is the E will teach you :) it taught me. and you wont care what you look like if you get a good dose. within 45 minutes of taking it, i was with my gf on a stage in this rave club, with my eyes closed just moving and bobbing. everyones eyes were rolled so far back in they're heads they couldn't even see me anyway hahh. just dont stand there doing the same thing over and over. if you think you'll look stupid doing something else. you'll look alot stupider just bouncing like ja rule. let the music inside your head. relax. drink plenty of water. and DANCE DANCE DANCE Hahah. it's all that matters anyway. you don't learn it. you just get it or you don't. and i think E's the only way to get it :P gl :)

-- Anonymous, February 02, 2005

youre all pieces of shit that should die a painful death you worthless fucks

-- Anonymous, February 07, 2005

It is definately all about feeling the music, just close your eyes and go.. but if you want to see a maseter at work.. www.detoursvideo.com/Elsewhere.htm (the Kollaboration vids are the best). Enjoy!

-- Anonymous, February 08, 2005

I did E for the first time 2/1/8/05 and it was amazing. The dancing came to me normally I just went with whatever flowed through my body the speed the harshness the quietness. It fucking rocked, I cannot wait to roll again.

-- Anonymous, February 20, 2005

i like taking xtc it helps me dance but its up to you on how you dance,try glowsticks and fun things like that if people dont like how you dance they probally suck cause they're paying attention to you and not themselfs.Screw them

heres a blow pop Kandi_Raver

-- Anonymous, February 21, 2005

dj rankin in the mix mother fucker

-- Anonymous, February 23, 2005

bin mixin ravin and livin a plurifide since my last entry, in all honesty my preivious suggestions of imitating others at all is a right load of bollocks,invent yourself invent your style of ravin and remember never to give a damn about onlookers and their sometimes square fashist comments. as for DJ rankin HE SUCKS DONKEY SHAFT search for some Slipmat or Hixxy if you are hardcore or if your idea of zoning out is a bit more chilled out go for some original stuff such as kicks like a mule or djpc insomniac. PLUR

-- Anonymous, February 28, 2005

Wow I think its INSANE that this post from like 5 years ago is still being replied to! wow... Anyway, Yea i found this just like quite a few peolpe on here did - new to the rave/club scene and i googled "rave dancing" or something (i cant even remember what i googled and it was 6 minutes ago...im so shot). Anyway, ya i've been obsessed with techno, trance, tribal, everything (music is my life) for so long and I never could seem to get the dancing down. Havent tried much...but im gonna.

-- Anonymous, February 28, 2005

Want a hot tip, well here it is, ive been to 1 rave, couldnt dance till i had my first bikkie, a green mitsibishi, and ithe others are right, you'll know wat to do, busta move and dont give a fuck wat other people think, if they give you a hard time, give the cunts a touch up, and the big box little box dance move is da bomb Peace out mutha fuckers

-- Anonymous, March 01, 2005

The thing about raves is the type of music, you got techno that is more a glowstick and liquid moves(a lil bit of practice with the glowsticks). In trance you just have to losen up and feel the music (a roll helps....lol) everyone around you will be feeling so good who cares what ur doing. peace out

-- Anonymous, March 02, 2005