Is it a site for gamers or snivellers? Since a few days, a lot of records generate doubt on the board. For example , mr Tiihonnen (the John McEnroe of MARP) who wrote a novel on track&field to conclude that 10 persons couldn't make best scores than him because he was the best in arcade ; S; Remnes who suspected me on nibbler until Zwaxy disculpate me ; or Lagavulin's beautiful record on zzyzzyxx who has been commented with suspicion when there is nothing strange in his inp file.

So please stop complain and PLAY !!!!!

-- Phil Lamat (plamat@club-internet.fr), August 19, 1999

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Yes, I totally agree with Phil Lamat.

* My zzyzzyxx high score is clean. For those who noticed something strange in my inp at 570330, I suggest you to spend less time writing on board and more time analysing the game ; if you're not too stupid, you will understand what happened and how the game is working.

* Thank you Chris Parsley for suspecting me of cheating without watching the inp file ! Congratulations !

-- lagavulin (darre@club-internet.fr), August 19, 1999.

Ooh - I don't like the way this is going. Come on now - let's all play nicely! :o)

Chris.

-- Zwaxy (zwaxy@mail.com), August 19, 1999.

NOW WAIT A MINUTE - Tell me where exactly did I say "_____ (Place your name here) cheated at ZZYZZYXX" I said I had reservations, which any player should have at such a high score. I never ever said you cheated... Please have your story right, I don't like words put in my mouth, I usually shove too much in it already. ;-)

-- Chris Parsley (cparsley1@hotmail.com), August 19, 1999.

How about stop complaining about the complainers and listen to what they are saying and join in the discussion. I brought up the zzyzzyxx thing because i wanted to know if there was a technique for remaining in a bricked square, it is now confirmed that there is simply a chance that you remain in a bricked square for longer than usual at random points, as long as you are holding the joystick in the opposite direction you'd be forced to go in with the limited time period.

and as for track and field, i don't think anyone could not suspect something in those recordings. are you really going to say you didn't use an autofire in them? If you didn't all you have to say is what finger technique you used and tommi might even back down, and say "wow, that's a great idea, thanks phil."

And i don't think the last few days are any exception to scepticism (sp) as you can see from the illegal recordings thread dates.

-- Chad (churritz@cts.com), August 19, 1999.

In response to Phil`s comments. OK , I`m a relative " new-boy " to MAME , and I can`t speak for the other games mentioned. But as for Track+Field , I, like Tommi , feel myself to be an expert on this game ( don`t mean to sound big-headed , but those are the facts ). To imply that Tommi is jealous of a better player, is I think , somewhat naive.I consider myself a great player on this game, but realise that there are others better than me. The speeds that are involved / displayed beg suspiscion when you consider the actual controls available for the PC. The speeds also reflect the use of the Auto-fire option , which I have duplicated myself ( speed bar acceleration ...etc ). Now you may say that these players ( Phil ? ) have an excellent way to produce genuine speeds on whatever controls....but could Phil ( et al ) enlighten us as to what controls and by what method was used ? I can use the " 8-finger and 6-finger " method , no problem in an Arcade environment, but using a gamepad or joystick ( minus auto-fire of course ) simply cannot produce the speeds involved. I will of course stand corrected if evidence of a new method of obtaining speeds , using PC controls , is revealed.......but I doubt it. ( RLH not counting ) ALEX ( The Jimmy White of Future INPS )

P.S...That means honesty ( Jimmy is THE most honest Snooker player in the world ).

-- Alex Weir (alexweir@indigo.ie), August 19, 1999.

Kali, the 6 armed Goddess of death, can't match those speeds on a PC keyboard.

Aqua, who wishes to point out his T&F recording is labeled as using RLH inside the .zip & in the description

-- Aquatarkus (aquatarkus@digicron.com), August 19, 1999.

Thank you Phil,(the Steve Davis of T&F) I allways enjoyed watching McEn-roe because of his attacking game and great skills that he possesses. I really didnt say that nobody can top my gameplay or to brag with my records . My main point was to show that I have enough skill and knowledge of the game to see who is doing it fair and who is not. In fact it was an old topic, which had been buried without conclusions. I m not so much interested to have couple of leaderboard points. I thought that false scores are doing great harm to the game in general and to fair competition, that most of us surely would like to have.

I think this sums it up on my part, and not going to write more about this anymore, but once again(definitely last): As seen in my inquiry of TF time to vote, other marpers agree with me that cheats are not allowed and TF sco-res should be removed and begin with a fresh start. So backup your TF-inps now and most hopingly Zwaxy removes them in week or straightaway(its hes site). OK Chris? So nice weekend to every marper out there.

Ps. Steve Davis was called rumford robot

-- Tommi Tiihonen (Tiihoto@hotmail.com), August 20, 1999.