I've just heard on the radio news that a second large ice berg has broken off the Ross Ice shelf right behind the large one of a week ago. I have no details or link as yet, but I'll chase it up and see what I can find out.

-- Malcolm Taylor (taylorm@es.co.nz), March 31, 2000

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Malcolm, never mind the small stuff. Just let us know when the pole goes--and which way it's heading! (G)

-- viewer (justp@ssing.by), March 31, 2000.

Malcolm,

Read a couple of weeks ago that an estimated 1000 square mile chunk of the Larsen shelf was ready to boogie. Any news on that report?

-- Carlos (riffraff@cybertime.net), March 31, 2000.

Also, saw a report from Alaska of many homes being damaged due to the perma frost thawing out.... Getting warm out there or what?

-- Rob (celtic64@inficad.com), March 31, 2000.

Here's a link to the report on the latest from the Ross ice shelf.

Carlos, I'll see what I can find on the Larsen berg.

-- Malcolm Taylor (taylorm@es.co.nz), March 31, 2000.

Folks:

To paraphrase a statement that I heard last year:

A significant rise in sea level would inundate Bill Gate's private island (don't really know if he has one)

Bill Gates will fix it :o).... I remember hearing that.

Best wishes,,,,

-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), March 31, 2000.

Thanks for that info Malcman, very interesting. The new iceberg (B-17) is in fact right in the area where you had thought the larger one (B-15) came off a week or so ago. B-15 broke off just west of Roosevelt Island, B-17 is just east of the Island, and it is about half as big.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), March 31, 2000.

Sorry Hawk, but you are still confused. Go back to my original post last week, and you will see that all along the co-ordinates and description I ave last week were for B15. I even said that the pressure ridge was visible near ROSS island. For some reason you have consistantly tried to say that I was describing the opposite end of the ice shelf.

I can only suspect its because your initial response was to my first thread (since deleted) where I had run two links together. I assume this because you did repost the wrong image at one stage, and claimed that I had reffered to visible cracks rather than pressure ridges.

Have a look at this site. It allows you to zoom in and see the ice in great detail. Now locate Ross Island (near McMurdo Sound) and a series of pressure ridges are quite visible. These are about 700 km away from Roosevelt Is where you keep wanting to look, and where the new berg B17 has broken free. Incidently, the new berg is just under a quarter of the size of B15.

And B15 in turn is around one third the size of taylorm@es.co.nz), March 31, 2000.

And B15 in turn is around one third the size of the big one sighted in 1956.

-- Malcolm Taylor (taylorm@es.co.nz), March 31, 2000.

Sheeesh, try to help the guy out and he gets defensive again! You seem to be having a bit of trouble with your sense of direction there Malcman, maybe it has something to do with living in New Zealand.

If you can't figure it out from these newest photos I give up, you're a lost cause. Or maybe you're just too big headed to admit that you were wrong (Sheesh, another Decker or Flint? Just what we need!)



BTW, you're previous thread was NOT deleted, it's still here, don't get paranoid, just try to be rational about this...

If you have any brains at all, you'll figure it out. :-)

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), April 01, 2000.

First link no good, try this one...

photos

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), April 01, 2000.

well hawk, I just went to the link you titled "If you have any brains at all...."

Try going there yourself, and read the very first reply. Then scroll down to OTFR's post. :-)

-- Malcolm Taylor (taylorm@es.co.nz), April 01, 2000.

Gaaaawd, you're dense!! My comment about being able to figure it out was in reference to the ICEBERGS you numbskull! Great so one thread was deleted, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?? All of the information from the thread is STILL THERE!! And it wasn't the "wrong" picture, I purposely chose that one since you had so much trouble figuring out how to read a scale on the first photo. That photo has a 300 km scale that you can't miss, yet you STILL don't seem to be able to figure it out! Unfreakingbelievable!!

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), April 01, 2000.

Easy Hawk. Malcolm's bonfides are are intact. As a cautious polly he's never been afraid to post bad news. Just easy Hawk.

-- Carlos (riffraff@cybertime.net), April 01, 2000.

A SWIFTLY TILTING PLANET

Global warming may have a new foe: the aerospace industry. According to recent calculations from NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, rapid melting of the Antarctic ice caps may skew the earth's rotation by a few thousandths of a degree -- not enough to cause earthquakes or other geophysical effects, but more than enough to scramble the world's network of communications satellites. Particularly hard-hit will be the Global Positioning Satellite system, which allows users to identify their locations to within a few meters; the orbital shift could cause these satellites to be off by as much as a third of a kilometer. More than a quarter of all communications satellites could be rendered useless, and virtually all will have to be reprogrammed. "This is a major problem for the satellite industry," said Raytheon spokesperson Marjorie Scrodhurst, "and it may be every bit as troublesome as the Y2K bug."

straight to the source: Washington Post, Julia Kristeva, 04.01.00 Tilt

-- (Hally@aol.com), April 01, 2000.

HH

I see you have been posting, but you still never answered my question, ie you accused of me of lying. Tell me when i have lied...if you can. Somehow i doubt it if you will....

ps, how's the viagra going?

-- Mr. Sane (hhh@home.com), April 01, 2000.

someone should haul these to provide water for the US during the continuing drought.

-- tt (cuddluppy@aol.com), April 01, 2000.

tt:

I thought of that during our droughts. The thought creates an interesting picture in the mind, does it not? Of course it's been raining all day here today, rained just a few days ago as well, and this MAY mean that Texas will be spared the droughts of the past few years.

-- Anita (notgiving@anymore.thingee), April 01, 2000.