You think it's bad thinking about your siblings engaging in carnal relations? (Well, I'm the baby, so it happens.) What about your kids?? I have a grandkid coming in November, so I suppose I must acknowledge that 32-yr-old Monica and her spouse have, at least once. Then there's the son with the 5 kids. I donwanna think about it.

-- Anonymous, May 18, 2000

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Oy. I've got two nieces who've had babies. I don't see them very often so they're still little kids in my brain. My other niece is getting married, and sometimes I still get confused about her and think she's ten months old and learning to walk by pulling herself up on our coffee table.

I remember when Jeremy's younger sister posted on the forum here about what kind of birth control she used, and Jeremy said, I am never reading your forum again.

I have a pretty non-prudish family, so I actually know far more than I need to about all of my siblings' sex lives. In fact, I know about a great aunt and uncle who joined the mile high club. I will never look at an airplane bathroom in the same way ever again.

-- Anonymous, May 18, 2000

Um, this is deviating from the topic but the 'mile high club' thing just sounds incredibly unromantic, uncomfortable, and pointless. You're having sex in a BATHROOM! Ick.

-- Anonymous, May 18, 2000

There aren't too many people, if any at all, that I want to think about having sex. Especially since everyone seems to be having sex but me.

*heavy sigh*

-- Anonymous, May 18, 2000

Cheer up, Mr. Anderson. Maybe you'll be able to charter your own plane, one day.

-- Anonymous, May 18, 2000

Yeah, the idea of one's relatives having sex is really disgusting to me.

I used to know this woman who had a son she doted on and she told of being at the playground with a buddy and her daughter. She noticed that the kids were getting really sweaty and said to her friend "I hope [her son] isn't going to be one of those guys who drips sweat on you when you have sex!"

The idea that someone could have a thought like this about their own son totally blew my mind. Luckily, I don't see this woman any more...

-- Anonymous, May 18, 2000

Not only do I never think about my relatives having sex, but I have never once ever implied in the slightest way to my parents or any of my siblings that I have ever ever EVER had sex. Never ever. My husband points out that they must know I've had sex at least once in my life, due to the fact that I have a child, but I prefer not to think about that.

-- Anonymous, May 18, 2000

Y'know, I'm a pretty squeamish guy, but somehow this doesn't bother me. I haven't spent a lot of time trying to visualize, say, my parents, or anything, but as I've been reading this, it doesn't bother me that my younger cousin is living with her boyfriend, etc. Maybe it's because I have a generally good looking family, or maybe we've finally identified an area where I have a thick skin. Somehow it strikes me as less repulsive than imagining them, say, on the toilet . . . Now, the toilet thing just gave me a minor fantod.

-- Anonymous, May 18, 2000

Relatives or friends having sex - bluck! My friend is currently - as I type - giving birth and I *know* what has to happen for that to occur. EEEEWWWWWWW!!!! The thought of her kissing her husband gives me the hibejibes - maybe that's because I know him.

My sister walked in one time on my mom & step dad and came to me to ask if what she thought she saw them doing was what they were actually doing - and went into an explanation. Before I could stop her, she gave me this horrible mental image.

I don't like to think of my relatives having sex - yicky. I sure, however, they don't like to think of me having sex either. "Vestal Virgin Does Vegas" - Movie at 10.

-- Anonymous, May 18, 2000

This doesn't bother me much either. I don't want to imagine anything graphically, but more because it would be an invasion of privacy and just... well, wrong... than because I find it disgusting.

-- Anonymous, May 18, 2000

It doesn't bother me to think of my brother having sex, but what does bother me is that I have a mental image of my brother being 11 years old. When people ask me about Andrew, I picture this little blond kid. I have to remember that he's not 11 anymore. He's 22. He's living with his girlfriend, and they got engaged at Chrismas. He's not blond anymore, either. He's got long wavy brown hair with these two blond streaks coming from his widow's peak (I have the same streaks, but his hair is WAY nicer. Jerk). My brother's damn fine looking. THAT's what bugs me. My little brother's this hottie, and all I can think of is that he used to be this scrawny 11 year old that I fought with daily. Who told him he could grow up?

I still don't want to think about Mom and Dad doin' the nasty, though. It's just too much.

-- Anonymous, May 18, 2000

Here's a nasty one: my boyfriend's mother once made some comment about the sexual style of her ex-husband, my boyfriend's father. And I realized that my bf was like his father in some ways. Ewwwwwwwwwwwww.

-- Anonymous, May 18, 2000

Regarding the "mile high club"- how on EARTH do you even fit two people- even two skinny people- into an airline bathroom these days? I can barely fit in there all by myself.

The only girl I met who'd joined the mile high club didn't even use the bathroom. She said she sat on her boyfriend's lap and they did it right there in front of everybody.

The things you hear in Berkeley.

-- Anonymous, May 18, 2000

I have to admit, the Mile High Club thing is bugging me -- I always assumed the club was mostly for people with access to private or chartered planes. I never use plane bathrooms, but it is going to be a matter of principle with me from now on. I also have trouble with the idea that a lot of my law school classmates participated in the game of trying to have sex in the library without getting caught.

It's an aesthetic offense, if that's the right word. Like taking a glass of a decent burgundy, pouring it into a paper cup and swilling it on a city bus amidst the diesel fumes.

-- Anonymous, May 18, 2000

I must be getting old, because the idea of sex in an airplane, in a toilet, in the bushes or at the movies does nothing for me, although I'm sure in my friskier days I'd have been all for it. Now, a large comfortable bed will suffice.

My sisters are fully functional baby machines, so I'm forced to accept their bedroom romps because the evidence is all around me whenever I go home. However, I do have huge difficulties picturing my older sister (her of the four daughters) getting down and dirty with her husband. So I'll stop trying.

And my parents? Don't even go there, you sickos!!

-- Anonymous, May 19, 2000

Well, thanks everyone. I was just about to have lunch, but now I've lost my appetite.

-- Anonymous, May 19, 2000

Well, I doubt anyone's getting it on in the library (my ex did that, oy), plane bathroom, or any other bad location for good sex so much as they are for shock value/see if they can get away with it/have something to answer during party games. I'm basically an in-bed person myself (plus don't go for the thrill of being caught- had that happen once, YUCK), but even I think that "hey, I'm in the prime of my life, why haven't I had sex in more creative places than a tent or on a trampoline?" (Answer being that my boyfriend was nearing 30 and no longer felt like getting laid in the woods even if it was his idea. He did want to go get laid under Burning Man at five a.m. last summer, but (a) we were too tired (b) TOO FRICKING COLD and (c) I'm sure everyone else at Burning Man had the same idea, and I'm not into an audience.

Hmmm. Now that I've gone COMPLETELY off the point of this topic...

-- Anonymous, May 19, 2000

About the Mile High Club...

You have to sit on the sink.

-- Anonymous, May 19, 2000

Oh, GOD!

I am NEVER using an airplane bathroom again.

-- Anonymous, May 19, 2000

A story from my partner's family:

Their parents were away and they had a big party. His sister and her boyfriend (now her husband) were going into one of the bedrooms. His younger brother was bothered by this. The future brother in law said, "Don't worry, kid, someday you'll do this with somebody's sister too."

When I first stayed at his parents' house, his mom showed us our room and said something about how we could "frolic" on the bed. I was really grossed out. I prefer parents to act like they have no idea what we might be doing, or to express open disapproval.

-- Anonymous, May 19, 2000

I am 30 years old and still have to make my mother talk to the hand when she brings up the subject of sex. I can't bear it. She's trying to be all cool and buddy-buddy by casually bringing up sex but it just grosses me right the hell out. I'm shuddering even now at the thought. She's divorced, and is certainly entitled to sex, but I prefer to live in my own little world where the thought just isn't allowed to form in my head.

As a kid I found the Polaroids of my parents. I will never be able to get the horrible vision out of my brain - the image is burned in forever. Dad is remarried, and my husband likes to make funny little comments about him "laying some pipe". Makes me wanna puke.

I have no siblings, but somehow I don't think it would bother me much knowing a brother or sister was getting some action. It's my elders, the people I was taught to respect, that I have to consider as anti-sexual humans.

As for the mile-high club...yeah, I agree that I will never use an airplane bathroom now either. And I would be too embarassed to try to join the club myself, because there are people who sit by the bathroom. They would see me and Charlie go in together, and totally know what we were up to. I would die of embarassment. I think the girl who said she sat in her boyfriend's lap and did it in front of the other passengers was full of shit. There is no way everyone on the plane would let them get away with that, they would have been arrested when they landed. Wouldn't they? I mean, you can't screw in public on the ground, so I would imagine the same rules should apply in the air. I would be severely pissed off if someone tried to get it on in front of me on a plane. Flying is bad enough as it is!

-- Anonymous, May 19, 2000

I read a story a while back about bad behavior on airplanes that talked about a couple having sex in a seat. It was an overnight flight, the cabin was dark(ish), and many people were asleep. I believe someone complained and the cabin crew put a stop to it. And, yes, they *were* arrested upon landing.

Just when you think you've heard it all....

-- Anonymous, May 19, 2000

There's a sex-on-the-airplane incident mentioned here:

http://www.salon.com/travel/diary/hest/1999/04/13/passenger/index.html

And there are more in the archives, located here:

http://www.salon.com/archives/1999/travel_hest.html

People sure do like to act like idiots on airplanes...

-- Anonymous, May 19, 2000

I couldn't care less if people have sex on airplanes I'm on, either in the bathroom or near me, as long as I don't have to know about it. And by that I mean more than seeing them both go into the bathroom together.

My complaint about that would be that people are waiting to get in there to pee, so don't hog the facilities, but aside from that I just don't care.

-- Anonymous, May 19, 2000

re: the mile high club

Dex and I took a late night flight out of sacramento to las vegas flying southwest. There was a total of 6 passengers on the plane. Dex and I were in the front area completely alone. Like we would ever pass up an opportunity like that. :P~~

-- Anonymous, May 19, 2000

Well, when it comes to relatives having sex, all I think of is Mum and Dad. I just really can't imagine them ever doing it. I try and fail, not because the idea is so horrible but just because it really is unimaginable. They don't strike me as the sort of people who would ever have sex. And yet I'm the literally living proof that they must have done so at least once (unless I was adopted, of course, in which case all such speculation is meaningless)

-- Anonymous, May 20, 2000

My mother thinks I'm a prude. ( This from the woman that tought me you can't say shoot, darn, or gosh because they actually mean worse things. ) She pointed out to me that she must have done it at least twice. I replied that it was my firm belief that you CAN get it from a toilet seat!

-- Anonymous, May 20, 2000

At my eighth grade field trip, the kids fit ten people in the bus' bathroom. I was laughing hysterically, but when I saw the occupied light go on, I cringed at the fact that I had no idea what they were doing in there. And one boy was in his boxers only!

A close guy-friend of mine was caught masterbating by his mom. I was trying my best not to think of the fact of him masturbating (ick, I never want to know), but I couldn't help pitying his mother! The poor woman... Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. It kept reminding me of _American Pie_ though. And the fact that I play the flute and will go to band camp this year... If you haven't seen that movie, don't ask.

And about the parents thing? Can you say YUCK!!!!! My dad once said to me, "This dinner was almost as good as sex." I pretended not to hear him, but I wish I hadn't.

-- Anonymous, May 20, 2000

When my dad was recovering from his first heart attack, one night he started putting the moves on my mom ... she stopped him to ask "Have you talked to your doctor about sex?" Ever the master of deadpan, my dad replied, "No, but he isn't really the type I go for." My mom told me that story some time after it happened. Squeamish? I thought it was damn funny. :)

-- Anonymous, May 21, 2000

A friend once said to me that there are two classes of people in the world about whose sex lives you really did not need full information: your parents and your children.

Of course, when your kid goes to college and comes home with a girlfriend (with whom he is sharing an apartment), do you let them share his bedroom? Answer... yes, we did. (When I was helping my eldest move into his freshman dorm room I presented him with a package of Trojans. He said "Thanks, Dad, but they give them out at the campus health office y'know."

As far as mile high club membership... yes, people do use the bathrooms for that purpose... but also remember that planes were not always as crammed full as they usually are now so if the plane is not crowded and you make judicious use of a blanket... No, I have never joined that club although in my younger days I gained enough experience in erotic use of ground transport that I am sure that there were no major technical difficulties preventing such activities... but now that there is about an inch of space between rows in economy class it may be more difficult... there's not enough room for one person, let alone two!

Jim

-- Anonymous, May 21, 2000