As pole position and his clones are splitted in 4 courses , I think tpgolf should be splitted in 2 courses ; I know it's an interested proposal but it also sounds logical to me

-- phil (plamat@club-internet.fr), October 16, 2000

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Don't know Phil, but to sidestep a little off subject, wouldn't it finally be time to split Paperboy to 3 games: ES, MR and HW. At the moment the scores are combined 3 credit ones(how about that then "QT")........ One game takes too long time for anyone to get interested in this veery amusing classic title.

In my opinion difficulty is too easy, but it doesn't matter if it's same for everyone. What comes to compatibility with TG scores is no prob, since it seems that there's only one score in TG-database, which is total bulls(easy street 1 000 000), and...were at MARP now... Donut? Gameboy9?

-- Paperboy (tiihoto@hotmail.com), October 17, 2000.

Paperboy is actually one of the games that was discussed in the great TG debate earlier this year. Basically, what was decided was that it was up to the top players on a game whether they wanted to change settings to more difficult or TG for their game of expertise, as several players protested about any possible de-marthonization at MARP. If players want paperboy to be split into three courses instead of grand slam style, then that's up to them. As for multiple credits, it's only because multiple games are being played--something that (agreed, Tommi) doesn't really fit in at MARP.

In short, I'd be more than happy to make this change, but I'm sick of being flamed for stepping on people's toes. As for pc_10, I would like to thank all MARPers for being patient while the dips are identified for the system. As I stated earlier, if the dips do not resolve the problem then we will proceed to vote.

As for tpgolf, there's some debate as to where this falls in the splitting debate (issue was first raised with NeoTurfMasters). Whereas Pole Position 2, Cameltry, and Pipe Dream all seem fairly intuitive as to splitting, I'm not sure that the golf games fit the mold. I'm not sure that the split is warranted, but I won't say that it isn't either. However, there is some debate already as to whether split games with no scoreboard for the split level should be removed (this would count ones like magdrop3-cme and cameltry-be, among others) and golf games might be considered to fall under the same category.

Feel free to comment, and please try to be objective.

Q.T.Quazar, MARP Rules Coordinator

-- Q.T.Quazar (qan@home.com), October 17, 2000.

Pole Position 2 has different tracks. Top Player's Golf has different courses. I'm not sure what isn't intuitive about splitting. I'll vote yes (as being #3 on it right now -- I do plan to practice again sometime, though).

-- Jason Dyer (jdyer41@aol.com), October 18, 2000.

I asked Donut and Angry about Paperboy. Donut and I agree that it should be splitted. Didn't get any reply from Angry--well hes last submitted inp is dated 19th April 99...

So that should cover top players views, other three scores are mildly put a bit on the small side.

We can leave difficulty as it is now (10 000 extra, easy).

It should be safe to split it now...

Thanks

-- Paperboy (tiihoto@hotmail.com), October 18, 2000.

I agree . Paperboy into 3 sections. I was good at this game in arcades, but can`t for the life of me , figure out a way to play this using current controls. ( any tips Tommi ? )

Oh , the same goes for tpgolf , i.e split

p.s if Paperboy is split into 3 , well then you`re gonna have to ban use of the 'Grandstand Trick '( i.e passing the line thru the gap ). We all know what happens on Easy Street,but on Hard Street , when you go through the gap, when the next 'extra' course comes onto the screen ,simply go extreme left and crash into the kerb. Usually gives you @60-65k each time. I don`t know anything for Middle Street.

Oh, and there's also the ' Lawnmower Trick ' which would also need to be banned.

-- AL (alexweir@indigo.ie), October 18, 2000.

Alex,

I think I used older mame versions for recording, can't remember if it was cause of speed or because joystick worked better with 34final.

I used gravis analog pro joystick, which doesn't work for me now...have to get new souncard drivers for win98.

I did have a special trick though, often before a game I configured my joystick inside mame(tab settings at mame). I also found that if I rolled my joystick round slowly several times before a game, control seemed to work better!!!...Might have been my imagination though. Sometimes controls were good, sometimes not?

Your hotrod doesn't work at PprB? Maybe Gravis anlg pr. has 16 directions instead of 8, or something like that?

I used dosmame with arcadeathome frontend, win95.

GB9,QT,

I'm in a limbo or? as nothing I suggest seems to be done? At least with a schedule...

yeps, Tommi

P.S. Lawnmover trick? Have heard that before, but same head all year long...

-- TJT (tiihoto@hotmail.com), October 24, 2000.

OK, it's now split into the two courses (-TOP & -SNK)...

-- Pat (laffaye@ibm.net), November 08, 2000.