Can I get a new identity?

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Hello friends, Does anybody know of a way to actually go about acquiring a new identity, one that works with the lovely gov't computer systems and such. My current "data" is running into too much trouble and I am hoping for a way out. By the way, any other creative solutions are obviously welcome.

At the end of my rope, leroy j

-- Jonathan leroy Jenkins (leroyjenkins69@hotmail.com), June 27, 2001

Answers

When you find out, please let me know... as a matter of fact, if you've gotten anything yet, can you share it with me?

-- Rodney (redjr99@prodigy.net), July 25, 2001.


!ELTAEB SI LUAP

-- doorag (doorag@another.com), July 29, 2001.

You might want to check out a site under the MSN communities called "Removing Yourself from Society." There you will find people to answer your questions.

-- Ethan Holland (ethanholland@hotmail.com), August 21, 2001.

http://www.phonyid.com/faq.html

hello this is the place i got my new id then from this i took it to get a valid birth cert and an valid drivers licence

and price was right

-- new id (techie@yahoo.com), August 14, 2002.


just read that all of this was a scam on another site. They are even trying to close down this one you have listed above.

-- rashad carson (rashadicar@yahoo.com), September 23, 2002.


If anyone can help, I need info on same thing. THANKS

-- Charles (dale3chevy@aol.com), October 13, 2002.

I havent tried getting an ID online... i am fairly leery about it... however www.phonyid.com seems the most promising from what i have seen. if anyone else has info on that site, let us all know.

-- andrey pavlov (nybgrus@yahoo.com), October 16, 2002.

PhonyID.com ??? Yeah, sure, run by fakeidman...its BULLSHIT. they are all scams, Every last ID site online is a scam. If they DO deliver, its bullshit quality.

You Want a New Identity? a Novelty Drivers License that will actually Pass at a Bar, or a Club, or even a cop? Email me.

-- AnonyMan (ccsupplier@ziplip.com), November 22, 2002.


Funny, "AnonyMan" who posted above of me.

"PhonyID.com ??? Yeah, sure, run by fakeidman...its BULLSHIT....."

I recently ordered from them and have a feeling I was screwed.

So I did a a little research on the domain name and found this email address:

phonyid@ziplip.com

...and what do I find in your post as your email address?????

ccsupplier@ziplip.com

Coincidence? I surely hope not...

Because if it is? FBI, BBB, CIA will ALL be notified with your information, which I assure you, I have plenty of.

-- Pete (jamericaent@hotmail.com), December 01, 2002.


PHONEYID IS HUST THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PHONY!!!!! I (WE) SENT FOR GET THIS 9 OF THESE PUPPIES TO BE "AUTHENTIC" ARIZONA DRIVER LICENSE COMPLETE WITH ENCODED MAGNETIC STRIP AND HOLOGRAMS......... ALSO WITH R E M O V A B L E DISCLAIMER MEDIA (A PEEL-OFF STICKER) (to get by the law)........ WHAT WE GOT FOR OUR $900 FROM sWEDEN WAS A REMAIL FROM iLLINOIS WITH I.D. CARDS NOT DRIVER LICENSE. THEY WERE OF THE $3.95 QUALITY RANGE, WARPED, VERY LIGHT IN COLORING, NONE OF THE NUMERIC INFORMATION WAS COLLELATED OR GEARED TO BIRTHDATES AS WE DUMMIES KNOW IT IS. IMPRINTED AND UNMOVALBE WAS A HUGE DISCLAIMER THAT A BLIND MAN COULD READ IN THE DARK. THAT WAS THE BEST PRINTING ON THE ENTIRE $100 PIECE OF SHIT AND....... NOT EVEN CLOSE TO AZ ORIGINALS........ TOTAL 9 PIECE VALUE: $FUCKING ZERO CENTS........ a monkey can tell the diference PLEASE - IF ANYONE KNOWS OF SOMETHING REAL LOOKING IN A DRIVER LICENSE THAT WILL AT LEAST "BUY SOME TIME" IF STOPPED,,,,,,, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND i WILL PAY YOU FOR YOUR TIME.......... UNDERSTAND, I HAVE LITTLE $$$ LEFT I CANT AFFORD MORE RIP OFFS PLEASE HELP ME. ONE LAST COMMENT, IT MUST BE AS ORIGINAL AS POSSIBLE BUT IT WILL BE USED IF NEEDED ALMOST EXCULSIVELY IN THE COUNTRY OF M E X I C O E ME AT: swcjlam@hotmail.com thanX 06.Dec.02 PS If I come up on something GOOD..... I will post my name that I have something but I will NOT post the GOOD company.... Obviously

-- Johnathan Burkhart (swcjlam@hotmail.com), December 06, 2002.


Ok, PhonyID.com or not? Is it a scam, or isn't it? I'm tired of all this nonsense. If you know anyone, make them yourself, or have any info, please contact me.

-- now why would i want to do that? (euphoricmadness19@yahoo.com), December 18, 2002.

phonyid sent me a real id, i don't know what you guys are talking about unless you own some scam id sites or something

-- Jason (resdket@hotmail.com), December 19, 2002.

i got a id from them and it is a good one, did you people forget to send money when you ordered? nothing in life if free you know?

-- Karen (hottie1983@aol.xom), December 28, 2002.

www.idchicks.com is legit!

-- names dont matter (agampelgp@prodigy.net), January 08, 2003.

Everyone, Check out : www.expage.com/fakeidscams

-- Von Karjan (cgardels@earthlink.net), January 08, 2003.


Phony ID is propably the best established scam on the web. I don't know who runs it, but its well organized and managed.

What they deliver looks worse than anything homemade I have ever seen. Pure crap. I ordered, and what I got was the biggest piece of bullshit I have seen yet. They call it novelty and hide behind "we- don't-discuss-our-product-so-we-don't-get-in-trouble" bullshit. Actually they're right, by not discussing they can send you any kind of bullshit and you can't get them for fraud. (Remember, its legal to have novelties?)What they delivered to me looked like something made with an old HP Inkjet printer and then thermo-copied on a blank.

No Holo, no nothing that would have looked only remotely similar to the "original" which I ordered. No number no nothing.

They stage a whole series of so called review boards, mostly hosted prepaid and untraceable (so they think ;-) by Coza Host in South Africa. Every single post that praises phonyID on these boards is fake. By doing so, even if you were to contact authorities, they can say we don't discuss or promise anything about our product, and postings claiming they look real we can't control.

See how easy this is? They can go on happily ever after. How realistic do you think it is, that in these times after 9/11 you can sit somewhere on the world producing perfect fake ids and sell them to oh so many oh so happy customers?

About a week.

There is one simple fact, you can not order any form of reproduced ID over the web, that would pass off as "real" government issued ID anywhere but in LaLaLand.

And for the guy from phony, no I am not running a scam site trying to dwarf you with false accusations, you idiot.

Watch your mail, you never know what disgruntled people may pay you with ;-)

-- TP (tp@softhome.net), January 09, 2003.


P.S>

Their newest strategy is no longer to stage review boards, but sites that claim to be "anti-fakeid" trying to expose the sites that actually deliver.

Now you can read "warnings" about this site which is so "dangerous" because it really delivers to all these underage kids.

Don't fall for it...

For all who need proof:

Go to www.dslreports.com/ip Check phonyid.com

It'll name CeTech Inc. in Sweden

Now check fakeidman.org

While it names somebody in UK (Why would the US FakeIDMan live in UK?) you can see by the INTERNIC entry that the DNS for FakeIDMan is ANDOL.SE, meaning the site is run out of Sweden.

Need I explain more? If you don't get it now, then go ahead and order from them, have fun.

-- TP (tp@softhome.net), January 09, 2003.


my girlfriend was stupid enough to order from phonyid. she has been waiting over two months, and they have even stopped responding to her emails.

-- mike johnson (thaman@hotmail.com), January 24, 2003.

I think all the sites online are scams. Probably be easier to buy a PVC printer myself. Are those illegal to own too? Cuz I've checked the laws and most say selling IDs as 'novelty licenses' won't save your ass.

-- AC (adriancool@mail.com), February 07, 2003.

********************************************************************** *ALRIGHT, EVERYONE. LISTEN UP. THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH ABOUT PHONYID.COM! I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO ONLY BE SCAMMED OF $100 DOLLARS. I PLACED AN ORDER FOR A CALIFORNIA I.D. IT TOOK ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MONTHS TO FINALLY COME. MY HEART WAS FILLED WITH JOY.....UNTIL I OPENED THE ENVELOPE THAT IS. WHEN I SAW THE I.D. I WAS IN DISBELIEF. I COULDN'T BELIEVE WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT IT WAS. IT LOOKED NOTHING LIKE A CALIFORNIA I.D. AND HAD NO HOLOGRAMS WHATSOEVER. IT LOOKED NOTHING LIKE THEIR SAMPLES ON THEIR WEBSITE. IT HAS NO BACKGROUND COLOR.(CALIFORNIA’S IS SUPPOSED TO BE A LIGHT-BLUISH COLOR) IT HAS A PICTURE OF THE FUCKIN' GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE ON IT. YES AND DOES THE REAL CALIFORNIA I.D. HAVE A PICTURE OF THE FUCKIN' GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE ON IT YOU ASK?? NO, IT DOESN'T. ALSO, IT HAS NO NUMBERS ON IT REGARDING YOUR IDENTIFICATION. IN FACT, IT'S NOT EVEN A NOVELTY LICENSE. IT JUSTS SAYS "CALIFORNIA IDENTIFICATION" IN CURSIVE WRITING IN SOME BULLSHIT FONT. I'M LOOKING AT THIS PIECE OF TRASH RIGHT NOW AND I'M EXTREMELY DISGUSTED. NOW LET'S MOVE ON......THE BACK OF THE I.D. THERE IS A BIG PARAGRAPH ON HOW THE I.D. IS NOT GOVERNMENT ISSUED AND HOW IT IS A CUSTOM MADE NOVELTY I.D. IT IS PERMANANT AND IS NOT A STICKER THAT YOU CAN SIMPLY REMOVE. AND THE MAGNETIC STRIPE… HAHA. IT DOESN'T EVEN LOOK LIKE ONE. IT’S PURE GARBAGE. THE FOLLOWING PARAGRAPH WAS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH. THAT'S HOW CRAPPY THESE I.D.'S REALLY ARE. THINK ABOUT IT: WOULD I REALLY BE ABLE TO GO INTO THIS MUCH DETAIL ABOUT AN I.D. IF IT WEREN'T REALLY TRUE. WHEN PEOPLE SAY SOMETHING GOOD ABOUT PHONYID, THEY SAY IT IN LIKE ONE SENTENCE. FOR EXAMPLE, ABOVE "Jason" STATED, "phonyid sent me a real id, i don't know what you guys are talking about unless you own some scam id sites or something" IF YOU NOTICE, THERE IS NO DETAIL IN IT. AND ALSO NOBODY ON HERE IS ADVERTISING ANY I.D. SITES, THEY’RE JUST STATING HOW THEY WERE SCREWED OVER BY PHONYID.COM. I THINK THESE PEOPLE THAT PRAISE PHONYID.COM EITHER WORK FOR THE SITE OR ARE TRYING TO FUCK YOU GUYS OVER FOR YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY JUST BECAUSE THEY PROBABLY GOT SWINDLED FOR A HUNDRED SMACKERS. MY ONE PIECE OF ADVICE FOR ALL OF YOU: D O N O T O R D E R A N O V E L T Y I. D. O N L I N E ! ! ! PEACE OUT.

P.S.- FAKEIDMAN.ORG IS A SCAM REVIEW SITE. DON'T BE STUPID LIKE I WAS AND LISTEN TO HIS REVIEWS. *****************************************************************

-- sucker (dumbass@dumbass.com), February 11, 2003.


Ok here is what I get out if this , why is phony id listed in businessweek and is quoted by other people if it is a scam. I do not think businessweek can post things that are not legit, but then why again would they post a real web add. Any response would be great ..... and is fakeidman and phony are both a scam , thats one huge pullover hes got going .... why would he not be shut down ....any response????

-- todd (www.mo@yahho.com), February 12, 2003.

why would anyone order a FAKE i.d. off of a website in the first place. #1. did you ever stop to think that the person making the fake i.d. probley also has the ability to use your credit card number that you submitt to them. #2. You are spending how much money for something that CLEARLY says NOVELTY ID !?!? do you understand the meaning of novelty? you aren't going to fuck somebody with aids with a novelty rubber are you? #3. Why would you spend that kind of money on a product that you don't see first? common ppl. get some street smarts and get of the computer. For a $100 you could make your own you just need the know how. use you computer for research instead of getting caught up in a scam. oh and by the way, you never really know who is sitting on the other end of your computer line, they may not just be scam artist out to get you, your gov. got their eyes open for easy targets too and that's what you guys are being.

-- nunya (djfield2001@yahoo.com), February 15, 2003.

todd, heres my guess at your questions. question number 1: why is phony id listed in businessweek and is quoted by other people if it is a scam? answer: phonyid.com isn't a scam, they actually deliver a product. where they get you at is the QUALITY of the product. it's pure crap and the guy who got ripped off above put it in a brilliant explination of their product. question number 2: why would he not be shut down (fakeidman)? because he clearly states at the bottom of the web page that he doesn't encourage the purchase of a novelty i.d. so in other words, he has nothing to do with how you get ripped off or scammed. i agree with nunry (towel head). you can get a better i.d. yourself if you just learn a few things. it would be cheaper anyway. and in response to nunry's question, "why would anyone buy a novelty i.d.?" it's because some people are desperate and they end up searching online for a fake i.d.

-- john doe (anonymous@a.com), February 19, 2003.

Yes, phony.id.com is just that - phony! The guy who posted the message that his California id looked fake is absolutely right. The card is clearly marked, "Identification", with an entire paragraph permanently imprinted on the back stating that this is a "privately issued identification card" and "not issued by any government organization." As for the holograms they promise, mine doesn't have any. I don't know about the sites that claim that these id's are good, and I can't comment on any other sites, but for a lot less than $100, you can make your own. I'm not encouraging anyone to do so, mind you, because the legal consequences may be severe if a "homemade" id is used improperly. But having ordered from phonyid.com, I can tell you that a very poor quality NOVELTY is exactly what you'll get.

-- yeah, right! (brc_1100@hotmail.com), February 19, 2003.

Pretty sure I got fucked too, I've been waiting 6 weeks, and not a damn thing, not even an e-mail. The part that really burns my ass is that I originally looked at buying from them about 9 months ago, then decided I would give it some time to make sure. So about 2 months ago I looked again, and still couldn't find any (or hardly any) bullshit about them. No, I find the facts and it's too dam late!

-- Dumb Bass (JDonkey123@CharterMI.net), February 22, 2003.

go to perfectids.com or cl-sellers.com/kevlar these are the most reputable ids in the biz

-- a (adds@aol.com), March 04, 2003.

Shit!! Findo out this post one month to late, damn i just ordered from phony. :(

-- JOjojo (Califpaintballer@someplace.com), March 05, 2003.

to the one who said to go to perfectids.com and the other place: THAT'S BULLSHIT! you can't trust anyone who deals fake id's over the web. its as simple as that. and did you see the price at perfectid.com? they charge fuckin' $300!!! and it's probably a piece of shit just like phonyid.com's !!!!

-- nothin' (none@none.com), March 06, 2003.

If you think perfectids.com and cl-sellers.com/kevlar are fake your nuts, if you goto perfectids.com now there is a newsreport on the NY id, however i have personally talked to the maker of the NY id on a diff webboard, and due to high demand to him, he isn't currentally taking orders (spring break rush) however, the other id's are open, perfectids.com is a compelation of nov id makers, each maker specifies the price for their product (which is why prices range) which goes to prove that a site that offers 50 states, if a scam, as it is almost imposible to offer all of them, due to the differeces in productions per state.. be the holo's, color's, different types of lams (matte, glossy, pvc) plus the different ways each state's ups barcodes are encoded, most are just 2d and 1d, but they each contain different information..

to get all of this together for just one state, takes a person months of perep and research, now given how often id's change.. that would be way to much for one person or even a group of 10-20 people to do.

however kevlar/perfectids are legit sites, i ordered and recived from both of them, i currentally have a order pending for a few friends from kevlar, and he's been nothing but great to me, look at the screen shots on those sites, and compair to fakeidman's, the difference is oustounding, they have detail, fakeid has barbook.

-- Why do u need this? (evil_santa@babiestastegood.com), March 07, 2003.


I have to say phony id is at fuckn' Joke i order an id like over a month ago and haven't gotten anything at all. I have email them and shit they stopped email me. My money order has clear the bank and i don't know what to do Fuck I just wanted the id, IF anyone knows what to do next please email me asap whatever you do don't order from them!!!!

-- dumbass (mizznativepride@yahoo.com), March 10, 2003.

to those of you who keep saying that perfectids.com and the other kevlar site are legit.... they may be, but theres no way in hell i'm going to spend three hundred of my hard earned dollars on a novelty i.d. novelty ids are always different from valid ids in some way or another. every novelty i.d. online has some kind of catch to it. and to the person who said that newsweek wrote an article about perfectids.com, WHO CARES!!?? that doesnt mean that they look good. articles have been done on phonyids crappy ass ids and look how they turned out.

-- joe schmoe (shackeroonie@yahoo.com), March 11, 2003.

I just ordered an Id from perfectids.com. Then I heard that they stopped making NY ids, which was the state I ordered from. Does anyone know anything about this?

-- John Browning (cgardels@earthlink.net), March 12, 2003.

fuck all you mother fuckers i fucked your mum cock suckers

-- joel foster (sexbomb@hotmail.com), March 14, 2003.

we all know youre lying. with a name like joel foster, its obvious that you suck dick on a daily basis you little pansy-ass rainbow brite mother fucker.

-- haha (haha@yahoo.com), March 14, 2003.

You guys talk alot of shit. I want real answers. Not some bullshit i can talk more shit than you can mumbo jumbo. The guys who are here for just shit talking need to get a life. BLAH BLAH BLAH

-- Wilma Flintstone (jackmioff@porndaddy.com), March 20, 2003.

After reading everyone's input on phonyid, I guess I just got scammed. I wish I wouldv'e found this site before I ordered from those no good assholes. I am so furious right now. I just wanted an ID so I can go out with my friends. I'm turning 21 in 6 months but all my friends turned 21 so it's hard to go out on a Saturday night with me. Everyone wants to go out and drink. If one of my friends looked like me I would use thier ID, but unfortunately they don't. Please let me know if anyone has any answers to obtaining a GOOD REAL ID. I don't want to get scammed again.

-- Sang Putida (Azawrath31@cox.net), March 22, 2003.

Um, yes, I being the stupid person that I am over excitedly ordered from phonyid.com and its been two months and i haven't even gotten the piece of shit that is apparently on its way to my mail box. Hot damn that sux ass... to bad i found this a little too late after being suspicious. Any suggestions for the future on how to get/make something legit???

-- E-double (illuvatar84@yahoo.com), March 24, 2003.

10 bucks gets you a REAL ID at the DMV and 45 a driver's license, but I guess that's a bit TOO legit.

If your friends would rather go drinking somewhere else than just chill with you in a neutral spot and drink...they aren't your friends.

-- Nikki (gloomgeisha@yahoo.com), March 25, 2003.


WE WILL MAIL YOU A FREE SAMPLE

We receive emails each day from customers who have sent money to other ids sites only to have the site keep their money and send nothing or to send them a piece of paper that is of very low quality which has been laminated. We keep hearing the same question from these potential customers, "I have been burned once, how can I know that phonyid.com is going to send me a high quality custom designed id?" We have even heard reports of other id sites going to extreme measures posting lies about our ids and our company in order to convince customers to order from them. It is our policy not to comment on other sites as we feel it is unprofessional, but it seems other sites feel they only way they can compete with us is to spread lies over the internet about us to discredit our amazing products. We are confident that our ids are the best out there and are willing to send an id printed by us to you at no charge. We challenge any other id site out there to do the same. We have nothing to hide and are confident that once you see our amazing ids that we will receive your order and orders from several of your friends.

If you ever hear another site saying something negative about us, ask them to put their ids where their mouths are and send you a free sample. You will hear nothing but lame excuses and reasons why they can't do it. The truth is, if they were as confident of their custom designed ids as we are, they would have no problem with it.

If you are debating about whether or not to order from us, request a free sample and than you will be able to hold in your hand one of our high quality cards and make the decision based on that. Other sites offer you grainy images on their site of ids they claim they can make. We don't show images of our ids on our site, we go a step further, we send you an id at no cost to you. The truth is most of the id sites out there do not even own id equipment and if they send anything it is something they printed on an inkjet printer and laminated.

Once you receive a free sample from us, you will see that we do own the equipment we say we own and that our custom designed templates are second to none. The sample you receive will feature a celebrity in the picture area. The name will say phonyid.com simply to prove to you the id was actually printed by us.

There is no catch. We charge no hidden fee for our free sample. All we ask is that you mail us an envelope with your name and address on it, you do NOT need to put a stamp on it. We will even pay the postage to mail the sample to you. Just write your name and address on an envelope and mail it to the address below and you will receive one of our high quality ids to hold in your hand and see what you get before you pay anything.

Please mail your self addressed envelope to:

CeTech Inc. Frejgatan 13 114 79 Stockholm Sweden

-- Phony-ID (webmaster@phony-id.com), March 25, 2003.


TO EVERYONE WHO JUST READ THE ABOVE MESSAGE : FORGET IT!!! THEY ARE LYING!!!!!!!!!! I ORDERED AN ID FROM THEM AND I GOT A PIECE OF SHIT!!!! I SWEAR ON ALL ETERNITY OF MY FATE AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT THEY ARE JUST SCAMMING BASTARDS. THEY ARE CLEVER AS HELL, BUT THEY SEND SHIT !!!!. THINK OF IT THIS WAY : THEY ARE OFFERING A FREE SAMPLE. WHAT THE HELL!! A FREE SAMPLE OF WHAT?? THEY ARE NOT A COOKY FACTORY! TRUST ME!! HOW COME THEY DONT TAKE CREDIT CARDS!! PEOPLE, TRUST ME. I SWEAR ON MY MOTHERS LIFE THAT THEY WILL NOT GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WANT!! THEY WILL SEND YOU A PIECE OF SHIT THAT SAYS IT IS NOVELTY ON THE BACK. PLEASE JUST TRUST ME AND DON'T GIVE THEM THE PLEASURE. TRUST ME

-- Andrew Hirsch (mathmajor17@aol.com), March 27, 2003.

TO EVERY PERSON DEBATING ON GETTING AN I.D. AT PHONYID.COM, HERE IS PROOF THAT THERE I.D.S ARE PURE CRAP. I RECENTLY VISITED THEIR SITE AND CLICKED ON THEIR SAMPLES SECTION. AFTER LOOKING AT THE PICTURES FOR ALL FIFTY STATES I WENT TO THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE TO READ THE DISCLAIMER. IT STATED THE FOLLOWING:---------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "These samples are for informational purpose only and DO NOT REFLECT THE CURRENT DESIGN THAT HAS BEEN CUSTOM CREATED BY OUR STAFF. THE SAMPLES SHOWN DO NOT REFLECT THE CARD WE ARE OFFERING AT THIS TIME. Graphics on our web site are representational meaning they are NOT a picture of the item you will receive but rather display the high quality our printers. These samples are just to show the the types of ids our equipment is capable of producing. Our templates were custom designed by us..........."-------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------- WOW, SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE ID THEY WILL SEND YOU FOR THE HUNDRED DOLLARS YOU SPEND WILL LOOK NOTHING LIKE A REAL DRIVERS LICENSE, NO MATTER WHAT STATE YOU ORDER FROM. SO TO ALL YOU THINKING ABOUT ORDERING AN I.D. FROM PHONYID.COM OR ANY NOVELTY I.D. SITE FOR THAT MATTER, JUST DON'T BECAUSE IT'S A GUARANTEED DISAPPOINTMENT.

-- The Truth (thetruth@thetruth.com), March 28, 2003.

goddamn this pisses me off, i ordered frm phony and they recieved my order on jan. 29 but they keep responding to my email which i find as odd, but i am expecting nothing at this point. I am retarded. Anyways does anyone know where I can get a good fake id in california email me please it would be greatly appreciated

-- Robby Steels (gods_gift_to_earth@hotmail.com), March 31, 2003.

I HAVE BEEN CONTEMPLATING ON GETTING SOME I.D. FROM PHONY I.D.COM HOWEVER SINCE SEEING ALL THE TROUBLES AND THE SCAMS THAT THE WEBSITES ARE PRODUCING RATHER THAN THE REQUESTED ITEMS BY THE CONSUMER I"M OF A MIND THAT IMIGHT AS WELL BE SATISFIED WITH WHO I AM, WHAT I'M LACKING,AND IF THE NEED REALLY ARISES FOR A NEW IDENTITY I WILL GO TO THE COURTS AND GET A LEGAL NAME CHANGE WITH AN ATTORNEY WHO CAN ALSO GET YOU A NEW SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER UNDER THE NEW SOCIAL SECURITY LAW.

-- anthony jackson (anthoneezway@excite.com), April 01, 2003.

This is what happened to me... I've been stupid enough to order from phonyid and I didn't received a thing yet.My order was send on 1st Feb 2003 and nothing so far. What is really "funny" , when I try to post my negative experience on Fakeidman.org message board guess what ? no way they will post anything bad about phonyid...If you guys are not believe me you can try for yourself...What is really curios on all the message board at Fakeidman.org are no negative reviews except one and that's kind of controversial...some guy has his name misspelled and he was going to shut the site down... What I'm getting is that due to human error people make mistake and people get pisst off but you will not see those reviews on Fakeidman.org ...and you just have to ask yourself If is is too good to be truth you know the rest... I've been scamed of $175.00 becouse I was stupid enough to send extra for rush shipping etc...My advice is don't make the same mistake and stay the hell out of phonyid and fakeidman.org

-- OD (OOOO69@hotmail.com), April 03, 2003.

Who said anything about our ids being copies of regular ids? We admit that are cards do not reflect the current ID cards offered in the United states.

We also want to remind you that you can request a free sample from us by going to the message above.

-- Phony id (webmaster@phony-id.com), April 03, 2003.


The best place to get fake id is from the triads in vancouver what they do is they get birthcerts from people who have moved to usa and wont be coming back so you become them here in canada or vise versa if you usa citizen!

for more info email me

-- which one you want (dilbert3@hotmail.com), April 03, 2003.


thanks for all of you for posting (not to you phonyid.com) because i was just about to send my order. i had my passport photos all taken and even had the cash order, with rush, all ready and sealed in an envelope to send off, but thanks to you folks and a little looking on the net, phonyid here is a 140 dollars you wont get! Shame on you guys for scaming people like this. Very deceptive. But i guess buyer beware. thanks again.

-- dude thanks (rsato8@hotmail.com), April 04, 2003.

well im the guy that sent his order the 27th of jan. and my MO cleared on feb. 13. well i emailed them letting them know how i felt and so on, and even telling them to admit was a scam. He then emailed me that if i dont get it in 2 weeks they would reship at no cost to me. so we will see. ill keep you updated

-- Robby Steels (gods_gift_to_earth@hotmail.com), April 09, 2003.

Okay, we all know PhonyID is phony; however, I would like to know if anyone knows anything about youfinishit.com. They seem highly proffessional and legit--and the legal notice they have you sign ACTUALLY refers to the California code that deals with using fake ids- -but I'm not sure.

The reason they seem so convincing is that they state the law right in front of you--it is purely illegal to sell IDs that look exactly like state driver's licenses. In fact, they don't even sell driver's licenses or fake driver's licenses, because they say that's illegal. (Which it is, if you look it up; the law does not allow you to reproduce anything that resembles a government-issued id).

They DO, however, sell organ donor cards, custom made so that they DON'T resemble government-issued documents. This is very convincing. Also, they require you to sign a legal notice stating that you won't misuse their product; something that would keep the government off their back.

Furthermore, their cards are not $100, only about $60, which is what you can get a fake on the street for.

Of course, they could be just really good scammers. Does anyone know? Cuz I'm thinking of ordering from them, but I'm gonna wait.

-- Joe Skeptic (uroborusring@yahoo.com), April 10, 2003.


to joe skeptic: i recently visited www.youfinishit.com and checked out their products. they probably aren't scammers but whats the point of ordering from them when they look nothing like government i.d.'s? theres no point to ordering from any site online.

-- what (iforgotit@mail.com), April 10, 2003.

HEY FAKEIDMAN! I THINK WHAT YOUR DOING IS PRETTY FUCKED UP, I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SEND MY ORDER IN TODAY BUT IM GLAD I READ ALL THIS. ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT MAKE THIS WORLD SUCH A FUCKED UP PLACE, ALWAYS TRYIN TO GET SOMETHIN FOR NOTHIN, YOU'LL GET YOURS X10 MOTHER FUCKER.

-- JOHN (JM@AOL.COM), April 14, 2003.

after getting my chalked id taken away at a bar, i was determined to get a fake id. i figured that i would look on the internet since it has basically everything. after some digging, i thought i would order off of photoidcards.com. To be honest,i was pretty naive in thinking that any site i came to would deliver. Then I came across fakeidman.com, and i thought it was a godsend because it listed scam sites. photoidcads.com was listed as one of them, and i was like thank god i found this site. i continued to look on the message boards on fakeidman and was taken in by the infamous "swedes" who produce supposedly exact replicas. i was still a little weary, so i tried to look for some bad reviews of fakeidman, and i couldn't really find any, though it was prolly cause i wasn't looking hard enough. i was really fooled by this scam MADD site that is run by fakeidman that said that phonyids.com is one of the most dangerous fake id sites because of their quality. i thought this was a perfectly non-biased account, and that fakeidman was too legit to quit. set in my money, via fedex, and anxiously awaited for that great id. after fucking two months the piece of shit came in. looks nothing like a fucking NY id, nothing. an eight year old child would know that it's fake, i'm not even kidding. i went back on the internet, did a lot of searching about how not to get scammed. first of all, as previously stated, if an id company claims to produce ids for all 50 states, its scam. no one would have the resources to do so. the most important however, the number one thing, is if the company takes a credit card. if it takes credit cards through an online credit merchant, 99% of the time you'll get the goods. if not, you can just charge back your account. i found perfectids.com. ordered a NY id from them, and it's fucking awesome. it's honestly 93% perfect. the photo of myself is a little too clear so it looks funny. but no one has rejected since. i just use it to buy alcohol, and to get into bars, so it serves its purpose well. however, he claims that the id will scan, it does not. i can't say for sure about all of them, but mine doesn't. i was disappointed because they said it would, but it still works in every other way. it even has holograms. i know it's fucking pricey, but if you want a legit fake id, quit your fucking whining unless your gonna make it yourself. the id's are so pricey because the guy at perfectids.com only makes one or two ids himself, and the others he gets from other vendors, so he's charging a fee like a middle man. it's a shame that perfect isn't selling the NY ones, cause i can tell you it's the way to go.

-- dedication (nhbgrappler18@aol.com), April 16, 2003.

I cant say anything about the quality of perfectids.com, but one must have to be either pretty damn stupid or careless with their money to pay 300 bucks for an I.D. online. Wouldn't you want to see the product first before you pay 300 bucks? Trust me everyone, just DON'T BUY A "NOVELTY I.D." ONLINE. How do we know this guy wasn't recruited by perfectids.com to write positive reviews? how do we know perfectids.com isn't just another scam like phonyid.com? we don't and we shouldn't take the chance with our hard earned money, especially 300 dollars. And I wanted to mention one more thing, it is against the law in all 50 states to produce exact replicas of government issued I.D.'s. even if you place a "novelty i.d." sticker on it. So in other words, any I.D. you order online will never work for what you want to use it for.

-- word (udaho@hotmail.com), April 16, 2003.

Hey guys chill out. Do not trust anyone!!!!!! Learn how to do it yourself. Learn the law too. Be smart. Nobody can do the IDs. DO NOT BUY ANYTHING ON INTERNET IT IS NOT E-BAY. BEWARE OF SCAM!!! BETTER ASK THEM TO PRINT DOLLARS!!!

-- John Himmel (jangim@yahoo.com), April 17, 2003.

I was wondering if anybodyt had any information on 21overnight.com? Phonyid.com is obviously a fake. That whole disclaimer thing on their sample page is hilarious. Buy if anyone has any information on this other site please emial me and let me know or post. I might check back regularly. Also if its true no internet site is worht a damn. does anyone have any decent information on how to make a really good one yourself? Please email me. Thank you

-- Brodie (Mallrat37@nc.rr.com), April 20, 2003.

hey, you want to know about 21overnight.com?? heres the deal. i went to their site just now and went to their "terms of purchase" page. while skimming through it, i noticed the same shit that was on phonyid.com. and i quote, "CUSTOMER UNDERSTANDS ALL PRODUCTS OFFERED ON THIS SITE ARE NOT DUPLICATED GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS AND ARE CUSTOM MADE NOVELTY ITEMS." so basically, you're going to be disappointed with what you order from them because it doesn't look anything similar to a real state license. How many times do we have to emphasize that novelty i.d.s online are crap?! Check out amazon.com and search for "fake id". they have plenty of cool books which take you carefully through the development of your very own "novelty" i.d.

-- Joe (dratsab@mail.com), April 20, 2003.

I think it's pretty clear that anything you buy online will probably be crap.

But what about the stuff sold on the streets? I live about 10 minutes from Manhattan, so I'm assuming if there's anyone still selling a quality product, then I should be able to find them. Is there someplace that I can find a real good fake I.D.? How much would a real good one cost?

-- Mike (nbaknick20@aol.com), April 21, 2003.


About the 21overnight.com. I went to dslreports.com that someone posted above and checked out 21overnight.com. That site has the same registrar, Tucows, Inc., as another fake id site Fastids.com. I don't know anything about them, but the correlation makes me suspicious that someone's running a scam on two sites. I wouldn't send my money if I were you. That's all I got.

-- Cravin Morehead (CravinMohead@aol.com), April 23, 2003.

I just recently got scammed by phonyid.com- I found you guys to late. But I was wondering if anyone has any information about the Kevlar site that is mentioned above. Has anyone else ordered from them?

Thanks for the help, Nathan

-- Nathan A (allnateallnight@msn.com), April 24, 2003.


I just sent in my order to phonyid.com TODAY before I visited this site!!! The one thing that got me was that they send out a free sample. Has anyone reveived their free sample? I would like to know how it looks...

-- Brian (lavaicecube@hotmail.com), April 24, 2003.

Odds are they only have that sample thing to convince people that they are the real deal, and do nto expect many people to request a sample before they pay. Alright the hell with all thsi fake id on the internet stuff. Who knows the best way to alter a single number on an id. Really thats all you need. if you can learn this properly youd ont have to worry about geting an entirely new one. SO does anyone know of a method for altering digits?

-- joshua (Mallrat37@nc.rr.com), April 24, 2003.

Yes, I do. It's actually very easy to do with a NYS drivers licence. All you need is a few colored pencils and it looks real. My friend did it for his cousion. The trick is known in NY and I think that if it's scanned, it will show that you're not 21. Just remember to also change the first 2 digets at the bottom right hand side of an NYS licence to your year of birth. Be very carefull when using colored pencils because it's extremely hard to erase!!!!!

-- Brian (lavaicecube@hotmail.com), April 25, 2003.

PEOPLE ON THIS SITE ARE TALKING A LOT OF TRASH ABOUT OUR PRODUCTS, WHY NOT SEE WHAT WE PRODUCE FOR FREE AND DO NOT LISTEN TO THESE POST. GET OUR PRODUCT IN YOUR HANDS FOR FREE AND THAN YOU JUDGE WHETHER OR NOT TO ORDER! FREE SAMPLES FOR ALL!!!

http://www.phonyid.com

We receive emails each day from customers who have sent money to other ids sites only to have the site keep their money and send nothing or to send them a piece of paper that is of very low quality which has been laminated. We keep hearing the same question from these potential customers, "I have been burned once, how can I know that phonyid.com is going to send me a high quality custom designed id?" We have even heard reports of other id sites going to extreme measures posting lies about our ids and our company in order to convince customers to order from them. It is our policy not to comment on other sites as we feel it is unprofessional, but it seems other sites feel they only way they can compete with us is to spread lies over the internet about us to discredit our amazing products. We are confident that our ids are the best out there and are willing to send an id printed by us to you at no charge. We challenge any other id site out there to do the same. We have nothing to hide and are confident that once you see our amazing ids that we will receive your order and orders from several of your friends.

If you ever hear another site saying something negative about us, ask them to put their ids where their mouths are and send you a free sample. You will hear nothing but lame excuses and reasons why they can't do it. The truth is, if they were as confident of their custom designed ids as we are, they would have no problem with it.

If you are debating about whether or not to order from us, request a free sample and than you will be able to hold in your hand one of our high quality cards and make the decision based on that. Other sites offer you grainy images on their site of ids they claim they can make. We don't show images of our ids on our site, we go a step further, we send you an id at no cost to you. The truth is most of the id sites out there do not even own id equipment and if they send anything it is something they printed on an inkjet printer and laminated.

Once you receive a free sample from us, you will see that we do own the equipment we say we own and that our custom designed templates are second to none. The sample you receive will feature a celebrity in the picture area. The name will say phonyid.com simply to prove to you the id was actually printed by us.

There is no catch. We charge no hidden fee for our free sample. All we ask is that you mail us an envelope with your name and address on it, you do NOT need to put a stamp on it. We will even pay the postage to mail the sample to you. Just write your name and address on an envelope and mail it to the address below and you will receive one of our high quality ids to hold in your hand and see what you get before you pay anything.

Please mail your self addressed envelope to:

CeTech Inc. Frejgatan 13 114 79 Stockholm Sweden

-- Phonyid.Com (sales@phonyid.com), April 27, 2003.


To the person who posted above from Phonid, you're going to have to explain why it is worth anyone's time to even request a sample product from you when it clearyl states on your website that the id ther pserson will receive which they have paid for will not look anythign like a real US id? And here is a comment from this thread that can be read above: "Who said anything about our ids being copies of regular ids? We admit that are cards do not reflect the current ID cards offered in the United states." Any explaining that? No I dont think so. You guys obviously suck at what you do and cant make a real US state id if you wanted one. Why dont you prove to the people on this thread you can do what you claim and send us each a FREE REALISTIC state id with our pics and info on it? Then maybe we'd give your site some credit.... lets see what kind of a response we get to that.

-- josh (Mallrat37@nc.rr.com), April 27, 2003.

Another thing about phonyid is that they are located in sweeden. I thought that fakeidman was located in a prison in Ohio. If anyone knows anything else about this, post it. I was thinking that they might have a fowarding service or something.

-- Brian (lavaicecube@hotmail.com), April 28, 2003.

Would someone please send phony ID a fucking VIRUS!!!!!!!!!

-- I would get in trouble if I put this (sjros@hotmail.com), May 11, 2003.

i ordered from fuckin phonyid like a fool. it took 3 months and i got my piece of shit id. it looked nothing like a real cali id, it had 2 paragraphs written on the back saying it was fake and met all us laws. DO NOT ORDER FROM PHONY unless you want a $100 piece of shit. if anyone makes ids and can provide a scanned copy email me. i just want to get drunk, you know?

-- j b (justinbrown@wisc.edu), May 13, 2003.

I'm sending out a request for a sample from phonyid.com today. I figure I have nothing to lose, except a buck or two for the postage. I've heard it can take a month or two to get your sample, but I figure I'll do it myself and find out for sure what their products look like.

When I get my sample, I'll post a review of it on this board.

-- Ron (jumbleweed@hotmail.com), May 14, 2003.


Ok, so I order from 21overnight.com coz a friend told me baout it, the site states that they r located in Nicaragua in Central America, but when u send in the payment tru Western Union u gotta send it to Estonia. I sent in my order on 5/8 and they say it takes bout a week to ge the ID. I ahvent got n e thing so im guessing i got scammed!!!!!

-- (~~~~~< (pequenita2envy@aol.com), May 17, 2003.

Is shadow crew.com still around? I am trying to gain access to that message board-- anyone know?

PS PHONY ID IS a scam my friend ordered from them and got a shoddy crappy id- just to agree with everyone else.

-- Susan (FauxFauxbrizio@hotmail.com), May 18, 2003.


I dont know what happened to shadowcrew.com, but it's closed though. Props to mike for finding out who fakeidman is.

-- woid (nuttin@aol.com), May 20, 2003.

Good fucken thing I found this sight. I was actually thinking of sending out 100 bucks this week because i am THAT desperate for an id, but i've just come to the conclusion that i'm retarded for thinking an online sight would solve my problems. Anyone know anyone IN PERSON who can make good ID's in Los Angeles?

-- J (juliet_gee@hotmail.com), May 20, 2003.

hey...i need a fake id BAD!!! I don't have my original birthcertificate and cant get identification without it so if any one can hook it up i will pay up to $150 for a north carolina id(not drivers license) just identification card. i would love it. e-mail if your serious. by the way, phonyid and anyother website is worth what? SHITTTT!!! they know it but we're the assholes buying their product. thanx for you guys, i pulled back just in time. but if anyone can help me i'd really appreciate it!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- cyndi harris (mexiqueen@earthlink.net), May 20, 2003.

Anyone know of where I could get a NY state (or neighboring state) fake id that's good enough for bars and clubs? Maybe something scannable ? Let me know. Thanks

-- Susan (FauxFauxbrizio@hotmail.com), May 22, 2003.

IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR ID'S , GO TO FASTIDS.COM , FORGET

PHONYID.COM , THEY DO NOT DELIVER !

-- ed (ebiggest46@hotmail.com), May 26, 2003.


no website, and i mean NO FRIGGIN' WEBSITE delivers replicas of the government issued state I.D.s. It's against the law, so if any site did it then they would be shut down immediately. So whether its Phonyid.com or fastid.com, you're going to be disappointed no matter what.

-- Your Full Name (meningitis@aol.com), May 26, 2003.

Attention:

DO NOT order from Fast ids-- it's listed as one of Fakeidman's scam sites. DO NOT order from them OR phony id. Anyone know if Shadowcrew is back yet?

-- SUSAN (FauxFauxbrizio@hotmail.com), May 26, 2003.


Fake id man is real..i ordered from him a month ago and recieved an id...i use it all the time... people on this site are advertising their own companies..i read every post...thank fakeidman...

-- Maria (randomcomet@aol.com), May 26, 2003.

Sure he is......uh-huh. and what about us who complain and DONT advertise a site selling fake ids? you scumbag. FAKEIDMAN AND ALL NOVELTY ID SITES ARE A SCAM!!!!! and no, shadowcrew isnt back yet but hopefully it is soon.

-- laksjdf (oaldsfj@alsdjf.com), May 27, 2003.

First of all Maria, if that is your real name, you don't order IDs directly from Fakeidman. So right off the bat we already know you're full of it. Secondly, Fakeidman's site has controlled posts so you can't put anything bad about ripoff sites such as phonyid.com or fastids.com. So you're either a really bad liar or just incredibly stupid.

-- Alf (aoao234@hotmail.com), May 27, 2003.

Hey I got half a dozen e-mails from FAKEIDMAN (or someone working for him) their e-mail address was Babcock844@aol.com and they told me to order from Phonyid.com or Fastids.com HAH. DO NOT ORDER from them someone needs to GET that guy back. Biggest scams on the net. Pfft! Just passing news along.

-- Susan (FauxFauxbrizio@hotmail.com), May 30, 2003.

I ordered from 21overnight.com about two weeks ago. From what I saw it's the best on the net. HOWEVER, they said that they would contact me when they picked up the money. Nope! I'm guessing that they took my money and aren't planning on sending anything. Don't be scammed like i probably was. Just find someone that you can meet in person (a friend's friend or something) and do it with them. Think about the fact that you're sending a considerable amount of money to a website that deals with illegal operations. How legitamate could they be? It's like trying to buy drugs off the internet. What are the odds of any country letting this stuff happen? Don't fall into the trap, find someone you can trust (probably someone you meet IN PERSON). I'll post a retraction if 21overnight ever sends me an id. Which I'm still hoping they will. E-mail me if you know anything. Thanks.

-- Eric R Sanders (big_yeti@hotmail.com), May 30, 2003.

Does anyone know where I can get an ID on the street? I am in CT, but can go to NYC or Boston.

*Don't Trust Online Companies*

-- Caitlin (chaoticdreams33@hotmail.com), May 30, 2003.


No idea. NYC in terms of the village to buy from the stores that sell novelty ids is shit..so don't bother. If you find out about a legit vendor though, let me know too. Thanks

-- Susan (FauxFauxbrizio@hotmail.com), May 30, 2003.

Stay away from 21overnight.com! I ordered from these people over a month and a half ago and I still haven't recieved anything yet. I've E-mailed them several times and they have not responded to any of them. Don't waste your money, it's a rip off.

-- Jimmy (Vaffanculo57@aol.com), May 31, 2003.

I ordered from 21overnight.com more than 3 weeks ago and have received nothing...I guess I have learned a valuable lesson just like so many others...Are there any templates out there to make your own???

-- Chris O'Brien (reborn24000@yahoo.com), May 31, 2003.

So what, are Shadowcrew AND carderplanet both not working now? Where is everyone at? E-mail me.

-- Susan (FauxFauxbrizio@hotmail.com), June 02, 2003.

For anyone thinking about 21overningt.com - Its a scam. It is just a replacement for the old getintheclub.com becuase that site was getting a bad reputation because it did not deliver. They are both run by the same shitface down in Costa Rica.

-- Marcus Depui (vfeltsman@hotmail.com), June 03, 2003.

If anyone has info on how to get an ID authentic looking enough to fool bouncers, let me know! I'm in the Boston area, but can travel to NYC if have to. Please, not more than $100. Thanks!!

-- Need ID (techscalper@yahoo.com), June 03, 2003.

Does anyone know where to download templates?

-- Chris O'brien (Reborn242000@yahoo.com), June 04, 2003.

Yeah, 21overnight is a freakin scam. I sent the money tru western union on 5/7 & didnt receive n e thing. If these ppl r in Nicaragua why do u have to send the money to freakin Estonia????? I was so desperate at the time that I didnt think about it. Luckly I found someone local who hooked me up. Internet sits are all scam!!!!!

-- Azucena (pequenita2envy@aol.com), June 06, 2003.

Could someone e-mail about where to get a good ID in NYC or Boston? Also, I read that one of the ID people for shadow crew was located in CT(Glock911, I thnk); if anyone knows how to contact him, could you tell me?

Thanks

-- Ryan (limpbizkit2200@aol.com), June 06, 2003.


OOh if you find out let me know too Ryan. Thanks in advance

-- Susan (FauxFauxbrizio@hotmail.com), June 07, 2003.

I was skeptical about anything done in Europe because of overseas shipping, and not using paypal for payment. Somebody above said that Youfinishit was probably crap. NOT TRUE. Yes, they don't look anything like real drivers licences, they key to this is to make sure that you pick one that does look real to you. I picked Virginia. I sent them a digital photo of me via e-mail, sent them a scanned copy of my signature, and sent them $49.00 via paypal. Just to make sure, because I've seen horror stories on here, I payed the extra $4.00 for the insurance through paypal. I soon found out that it was unnecessary. I got my card back in 6 days ladies and gentleman. I used it last night. Worked like a charm. Also, anybody who has seen the underground reviews for phony id's needs to know that the sight is run by the company for 21overnight. You will get an ID through 21overnight and phonyid, but you will also wait for about two months. Let's see, two months and $100-$150, or six days and $50.00? you decide.

-- Nate (aznsnsation@hotmail.com), June 07, 2003.

To Nate who posted above me:

How do u know 21overnight does deliver?? I sent my request on 5/7 & didnt receive shit!! seems to me like a lot of ppl on this board agreed. So how u know they do send out IDS??

-- Azucena (pequenita2envy@aol.com), June 07, 2003.


I think Nate is full of it or a set up. Why would u even WANT an id that doesn't look anything like a REAL license? Lame. Is anyone selling real DLS (other people's perhaps?) I have a blonde one for Massachusetts for a 5'6'' 24 year old female- I'd be willing to trade. E-mail me.

-- Susan (FauxFauxbrizio@hotmail.com), June 08, 2003.

Hey, just found this board, if anybody is really serious about being a sales-rep for MA, drop an email. I won't say much more than that right now, I don't want a ton of junk email. Anybody who has read shadowcrew might have heard my name.

-- goatguy (goatguy@ziplip.com), June 08, 2003.

try this address too

-- goatguy (goatguy@mailvault.com), June 08, 2003.

To Susan, it's not that you want an ID that doesn't look like a drivers license, it's that you pick one that looks authentic, but you are confident it will fool people in your state. I live in Florida, so I picked a Virginia ID because it was one of the ones that looked authentic. To the guy who responded about 21overnight. You said you sent your order 5/7, and I said that it would probably show up in two months. One of my bros who goes to UCF sent an order in March. He ended up not getting it until Late May. Problem was, was that they screwed up his DOB. He's 19 now, instead of making him 21, they made him 31. Because it is located overseas, he was SOL. I have learned through buying anything online, don't do it unless you use paypal. That's free, but good advice.

-- Nate (aznsnsation@hotmail.com), June 08, 2003.

I have been shopping around the past few months looking for a good Fake I.D. to get me through the next year here as I have just turned 20. I previously had altered my P.A. license(the old design, before that horizontal/vertical bullshit) and I tell you, it was a damn good job. Problem was I tried using it at a bar that scanned it and took it. They couldn't tell from just looking at it. So now I am back at square one. I have been browsing through these internet sites and admit to being very close to ordering several times, and even phonyid.com almost got me with their "free sample" schtick. I was almost going to blindly order one from there. No way now. I would have to agree with the assumption that any site claiming that they have perfect government issued driver's license is a blatant lie and scam. It would be impossible for any .com fake i.d. site to have the tools, know-how, skill, and equipment to accurately replicate i.d.'s from 50 differen't DMV's. Ruling any of those sites out, I would consider the one sight that specializes in only 6 states, because that seems much more easy to believe. They don't claim to make every state because quite simply, they don't. They have certain people that specialize in making certain states, and thats what they do. No need to have all 50 states and give some shitty product when all you need is one that looks real. However, for that price tag, I am not willing to take the chance... I would need first hand refferral from a friend in order for me to place an order there. This now brings me to youfinishit.com... Reasons for me to believe this site is not a scam.

1. You can pay with a credit card, and there has to be some sort of legit buisness being run in order for them to set that up. 2. There I.D.'s are not duplicates of Government I.D.'s, they are custom designed Organ Donor cards. 3. The price is relatively cheap at 40 bucks a pop compared to 100+ on most scam sites. The reason this price chalks one up for the validity of this site is because most scam sites need to charge a high price in order to make as much money possible before being shut down and/or getting a reputation for selling shit. Plus in america we have this mentality that the more expensive something is, the better it is. 4. The site sells I.D. making materials such as full card transparent holograms, PVC cards, and lamination pouches seperately if you wish to make your own I.D. There would be no real reason for a scam site to sell or advertise selling those types of things which can be bough in an office depot store.

Being decently convinced that you will recieve the product that they advertise at youfinishit.com, the next question to be addressed is, "who wants an I.D. that is not a duplicate of a governemnt issued driver's License?". Well for one thing, most 18-24 year old bouncers don't have a fucking clue what the current I.D. for all states bordering their state is, let alone the current I.D. for say, Maine. (by the way that is the youfinishit.com design i like the best). If it looks good, there isn't going to be any questioning. And it the I.D. may not say driver's license anywhere on it, but what is more important is that it does NOT say "NOT A DRIVER'S LICENSE" anywhere on it. They are going to look at the I.D., see the State's name and Organ Donor under your name and instantly assume driver's license, or at least issued by the state gov. Not to mention, they all come with holograms, and once again, it may not be the correct state issued hologram, but it is a high-quality full card transparent hologram that will look very impressive. I did some research on the hologram as well, and it checks out. While looking for materials to make my own fake, I stumbled across the company that makes that model hologram they are using, which is not a fake I.D. site... its a holographic imaging site, and you can order anything from there totally legal. With the combanation of a decent state design that looks neatly done, printed on a PVC card and a full card holographic laminate, I will feel confident using the ID.

You also cannot kid yourself though, you would be hard pressed to find an I.D. made from scratch that would pass a Police Officer, and there are certain bars/clubs that are notorious for being hard to get into, so I wouldn't use them there anyway, unless someone else tried it first. And I would definately stay away from any State liquor stores. But I'm not looking for that, I just want it to get into bars/clubs with my friends for this last year I am not 21. youfinishit.com seems like the best answer for me right now.

John 20/m/PA

-- John (Stealth708@aol.com), June 08, 2003.


Ok, to Nate:

Im not a guy I'm a girl. 2nd, if this guy u know got his ID from 21overnight.. did it looked n e thing like the real Cali license?? or was it a bullshit novelty??

-- Azucena (pequenita2envy@aol.com), June 09, 2003.


I too have been thinking about ordering from youfinishit.com I recently got some holograms from them so I know the site is legit. The only thing that stops me is wondering whether a bartender or bouncer will take it as a serious form of ID?

I did receive an ID from phonyid.com and they fuckin didn't put my picture on it! I decided rather than sending it back, I would finish it myself. I have a hologram and have managed to remove the text from the back using nailpolish. I need some suggestions as to what I can use to put text on the back of PVC? Perhaps there is some sort of heat/thermal paper? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

-- Zach Haupin (sysadmin@charter.net), June 09, 2003.


I am thinking about setting up a novelty ID message board with different boards like template trading, ID card making advice, and how big of a scam fakeidman.org is. Anyone have knowledge on how to set up a message board like pieces of HTML code or something?

-- Zach Haupin (sysadmin@charter.net), June 09, 2003.

Thats excellent news that you ordered something from youfinishit, i'll definately order one from there now. Most places you only get ID'ed at the door, and I know which ones to stay away from. I think it will pass no problem, unless they know exactly what the current design of that sate is off the top of their head, which is unlikely if you get one far enough away. The beautiful thing about getting one from maine though is, as far as I know the driver's license from there look like a shity library card, without a hologram or mag strip... the thing you get from youfinish it will end up looking like maine recently upgraded their state i.d. with a full card hologram and mag strip pvc card. In all honesty, just to make absolutely sure, when i get my i.d. card i will print out "operator's license" on inkjet transparency and laminate an extra layer on top just to take it to the next level

-- John (Stealth708@aol.com), June 09, 2003.

PHONY ID IS BULLLLLLLLLLLSHIT. MY USELESS "ID" HAS AN ANIMATED COW ON IT FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

-- rhiannon (lez@carpetmunch.com), June 09, 2003.

I'm STILL looking for a good novelty or real DL for NY or a neighboring state? Anyone out there have a hookup they want to let me know about? I'm willing to pay up to 200 dollars..e-mail me

-- Susan (FauxFauxbrizio@hotmail.com), June 10, 2003.

Ordered an ID from Get in the Club 4 months ago. Never received a thing. They don't return emails. Should have known it was a scam when they requested $ be wired to Costa Rica. A bunch of fucking scam artists. Stay away from them!

-- Jim Goodman (hyuk101@yahoo.com), June 10, 2003.

anyone know how strict they are on IDs at the casinos in vegas? do they scan them or what?

-- jigga (jiggajay304@aol.com), June 10, 2003.

so wait, does phonyid.com make real drivers licenses? and is just me or does it seem weird that certain people are indirectly promoting certain websites? is this site a complete scam as well?

-- theo (ny_theo@yahoo.com), June 10, 2003.

is there like a site where people put up their pciture to see if anyone looks like them and then they exchange ids and such?

-- theo (ny_theo@yahoo.com), June 10, 2003.

iMesh is great if you want an id template, goto http:\\www.imesh.com It has no virusus, unlike kazaa. But I've heard good things about kazaa lite, try that one.

-- 333 TRINITY 333 (MAT___RIX@hotmail.com), June 11, 2003.

dont listen to anyone promoting any sites. they are probably working for the sites. bottom line, dont order a novelty id, license, or organ donors card online.

-- numbskull (you@aol.com), June 11, 2003.

Listen, I just want, and to be more specific, need a fake ID. While I have no doubt in my mind there are scams out there, many of which have been made clear on this thread, I also have faith that there are at least a select few web sites out there that deliver the product they claim to produce. Considering the amount of money scam sites are making, there is no question there is a demand for the product, so there would be no reason for there not to be legit sites out there that do supply what they say they do, and do quite well off of that, not having to worry about them no longer getting buisness because word finally got around that they don't sell what they say they do.

Problem is, I don't have any friends that ordered a fake off the net, so i'm left to my own devices to try to figure out where the best place to order one from is. From what I have heard/seen so far, youfinishit.com seems like they have a good product, and i believe i will get the product they say they have. I do not work for youfinishit.com, and I am not getting paid by them to "advertise". I should be so lucky, and if i had extra cash like that, i would probably use it to go up to the first person that was 21 that sort of looked like me and offer them a nice sum for their driver's license. All they have to do is then fill out a form saying they lost it at the DMV, pay 20 dollars, and voilla, they have made a nice little profit.

John

-- John (Stealth708@aol.com), June 11, 2003.


I don't trust this guy, he speaks too highly of youfinishit.com. BEWARE OF IDS ONLINE.

-- asdf (asdf@asdf.com), June 12, 2003.

The only reason I was talking about youfinishit.com is because I haven't seen anyone say that they got scammed from that site, so I am stil holding out hope for it. In fact one person said that they did order something from there, but that they didn't order one of their id's, it was just a hologram they were selling. I want to see if there is anyone out there that ordered an ID from there and got a product.

I am open to any suggestion/testimonails regarding what sites are legit because I need an ID within the next few months here before school starts back up, and I don't have the time or money to dick around . Considering the amount of money that stands to be made from making ID's, there has to be someone cashing in on it by supplying an actual product as opposed to nothing, which isn't going to get them very far for very long.

-- John (Stealth708@aol.com), June 12, 2003.


whats the deal with fastid.com anyone know anything about them i just stumbled upon them. what do u guys think. Anyone know where to get a good id in L.A. email me

-- a_guy (gods_gift_to_earth@hotmail.com), June 13, 2003.

hey john. sites like youfinishit.com are just like phonyid.com. they both deliver a product. they both look nothing like actual ids and leave you disappointed. youfinishit.com may take paypal and may come sooner than the other crap, but in the end its the same shit.

-- empty (without@saanl.com), June 13, 2003.

Well If thats the case then I'm fucked once again. Just wondering, do you or someone you know have first hand experience with youfinishit? I don't think I am going to order one from there anyways now, because upon further examination of the site I found out you need to fax them this terms of agreement thing you have to sign, and I am not signing any papers with my name dealing with a fake id company. I will probably however order one of the hologram laminates from there, which they do not make, they get them through another company and those are for real. I am going to have to do this myself, using good old photoshop, a pvc card, and inkjet transperancy paper.

John

-- John (Stealth708@aol.com), June 13, 2003.


N e one has any updates on 21overnight? I'm still waiting to see if they r a scam, which im 99% sure they are. N e wayz if n e one ever got theirs let me know. I already got a fake from a local person, but i still wanna know what happened w/the 100bucks i sent in May.

-- Azucena (pequenita2envy@aol.com), June 13, 2003.

Doesn any one know where I can geta realilistic ID so I can buy beer? (nothing online) Email me please.

-- Mike (M_A_N_D_M@yahoo.com), June 14, 2003.

Aren't there any other message boards discussing this kind of stuff?

I remember seeing one a while ago that had a bunch of people who actually made fake id's themselves, so they obviously knew some stuff. It looked pretty legit, but I don't remember what it was....

-- Mike (nbaknick20@aol.com), June 15, 2003.


STAY AWAY FROM PHONY ID.COM THEY ARE FUCKING RIP OFFS. I FORGOT TO INCLUDE MY PHOTO, SO I CONTACTED THEM AGAIN AND AGAIN. NO FUCKING RESPONSE. I EVEN BOUGHT A CALLING CARD AND CALLED THOSE BITCHES 5-6 TIMES TO TELL THEM. I WAS GAFFLED FOR $175. I PAYED FOR RUSH SHIPPING AND EVERYTHING. THEY WON'T EVEN RESPOND TO MY EMAILS. IT'S ALL GOOD THOUGH! MY BOY IS ON THE STUDENT EXCHANGE PROGRAM IN SWEDEN. WHEN SCHOOL STARTS UP AGAIN, I WILL BE GOING TO SEE HIM. (YES THIS IS A THREAT MUTHA FUCKERS!) I'M GOING TO FIND THIS FUCKING PLACE AND BEAT THE THE PISS OUTTA WHOEVER IS THERE! THINK I'M FULL OF SHIT? I'M 6'3 310LBS. YEAH I'M A FATASS, BUT I CAN SCRAP WITH THE BEST OF THEM. FUCKING SWEDISH BITCHES. YOUR TIME HAS RUN SHORT YOU LITTLE MARK ASS BITCHES! MURDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

-- Rob (robertkcicero@aol.com), June 16, 2003.

yeah!! make some meatballs outta those swedes!!

-- hatephonyid (hatephonyid@yahoo.com), June 16, 2003.

I am not plugging for youfinishit.com. I am just stating the facts. I sent a request with my picture and signature. I picked a state that I thought looked legit. Of course nobodies going to take an id card that has clouds or mountains in the back. From what I saw, and I checked all of them, Virginia and West Virginia had the most legit looking ids. Now if you live in that area, you might be shit out of luck. I am from florida. I have drunk almost every other night since I got the id two weeks ago. I have been to 6 bars. If anybody is familiar with the bay area, I will even list what bars they are: Bukkets, Park Place, Bahama Breeze, Greenbacks, Round Up, and Strokers. If you think I'm a plant, see if I give a shit. I'm the one who got an id after six days, and am getting drunk and enjoying it while you mother fuckers who call me a fake still ponder your asses off on how to do what I've already done.

-- None of your damn business, but I ain't no fuckin plant for a web site, I'm just like you mother fuckers who want to get drunk before they turn 21. (aznsnsation@hotmail.com), June 16, 2003.

the subject for these posts is : Can i get a new identity, NOT : can i get a beer. You stupid fuck. We can't use those shitty ID's for that.

-- what (ihavenoidea@whatisthis.com), June 17, 2003.

You dumb fuck. Whoever wrote that reply to aznsnsation@hotmail.com needs to be shot. Nobody for the past two weeks cares about getting a new identity, we just care about getting beer. Why don't you read the other posts before you open your stupid mouth you dumb cunt.

-- Gina (litemyfire@aol.com), June 17, 2003.

Yeah, to "I have no idea what this is" loser, nobody cares about the original post now. We just care about getting fake ID's so we can get into bars and clubs. Go back to your hole in the wall.

-- Amanda (snoopy123@juno.com), June 17, 2003.

Does anyone know how to just alter (chalk) an existing I.D. to change the birth year? Some people have told me it's real simple, and others have said it's tough.

How is it done, exactly?

-- Mike (nbaknick20@aol.com), June 17, 2003.


listen up you little tramps. i'm just saying that some of us here want id's for more important things than getting drunk. it would be better if you whores just didnt get one because youre probably going to be drugged and raped at a bar by some fifty year-old.

-- ignorant whores (thesame@stuff.com), June 17, 2003.

hey mike. i think it depends on the state you have. some are nearly impossible, while others are relatively easy .

-- aaaaaaaaa (aaaaaaa@aaa.com), June 17, 2003.

does anybody know anything about novelty-ids.com. i ordered an id from them about 3 weeks ago b/c my friend said that the one he ordered looked authentic enough. the site claims to deliver 12-14 days after they recieve the order form. are they a scam site? i read somewhere that it was also run by fakeidman and i'm going to shit a brick if i just wasted $135.

-- steve (planozlover@hotmail.com), June 18, 2003.

Anyone tried the international driver's license from youfinishit? good enough to fool bouncers?

-- techscalper (techscalper@yahoo.com), June 19, 2003.

theyll probably think your a terrorist or some shit.

-- yourfullname (youremailaddress@no.com), June 19, 2003.

i wouldn't get the international driving permit, unless you look foreign or something. Just get one of their normal id's. Does anyone know if the magnetic strip on the back of them actually works? Their site said it had som SACP55603 magnetic coding information in the strip. Whatever that means.

-- blah (BlahBlah@hotmail.com), June 19, 2003.

Looks like a pretty sweet messege board.....

http://sls-cd6p18.dca2.superb.net/phpBB2/index.php? sid=e2afad393e3674914d995c4f795b2898

-- Mike (just want@some freakinbeer.com), June 20, 2003.


hey i'm just wondering what is considered a valid id because i know this place where i live that make secondary forms of identification and they don'y care what age they put on it. I'm planning on buying it and using it in vegas. Who thinks it'll work.

-- styx (smknblunt69@hotmail.com), June 20, 2003.

I'm going to Vegas in about a month, and am hoping to come up with some sort of ID that says I'm 21...

-- Mike (nbaknick20@aol.com), June 20, 2003.

i'm going to vegas and i'm in need of an id. Where should i get oneon the web or in los angeles. Also is CeTech really a scam?

-- styx (smknblunt69@hotmail.com), June 20, 2003.

styx--

You IM'd me around 6 o'clock on Friday, and I didn't answer you. Sorry about that...I was away from my computer.

As far as your question goes...no, I really don't know where to get an ID. I'm trying to find somewhere just like you. So far, all I know is that a few sites (Darkprofits.net and Shadowcrew.com are two of them) which were apparenlty very good, have been recently shut down. They were both message boards with people who'd sell ID's and other, more known members of the message boards would "review" thier products to make sure everything is legit. That's exactly the kind of place I'm looking for (this message board isn't helping at all, by the way). One of the shut down message board's maker had made a new message board, but you need to be "referred" by an existing member to access the site. Considering I don't know any of the people there, I don't know how that's going to happen.

Other than that...all I've found is a bunch of sites that all call each other scams. It's impossible to know what's for real at any of them unless you send them your money and find out for yourself. I'm certainly not taking that risk.

The bottom line is that I need an ID within the next few weeks (going to Vegas in the middle of July) and I haven't gotten anywhere yet. If I do, it'd be no problem to let you know. Hell...I'll just post it here.

-- Mike (nbaknick20@aol.com), June 20, 2003.


I really need a fake ID ASAP! got an offer to do porn but the agency wants age verification. if you help me, I'll compliment you with some videos and MAYBE a meeting with other girls if you're close to NY. thanks!

-- newpornstar (mudinyourass@yahoo.com), June 21, 2003.

I need your help people.

Just a question actually:

Will i be able to rent a car using a fake drivers license??? Or is there a way for them to know its fake??

-- Dion (fakeemailaddress@fake.com), June 22, 2003.


http://forum.carderplanet.net/index.php

Pretty good. You've got to scroll down to see the English forum. Seems to be slow right now because it was just shut down recently, but it's certainly better than this place....

-- John (John@John.com), June 23, 2003.


Ordered an id from 21overnight.com almost a month ago. Pretty sure I got fucked over. NO response to any e-mails. Took my $100 and ran. DO NOT ORDER FROM 21overnight.com

-- Cat Scratch Fever (dickpump@dickpump.com), June 24, 2003.

Has anyone heard of american novelty? http://www.american- novelty.com/ There price is competitive but they're online. But American (in Ohio). Any info would be great..Thanks

-- ralphy J. Fly (Need_ID@Drunk.com), June 27, 2003.

I'm telling you...just go over to CarderPLanet and ask these questions. You won't get any answers here.

http://forum.carderplanet.net/index.php

-- John (John@john.com), June 27, 2003.


American novelty is garbage. Read their fine print on the bottom of the samples page.

-- Duhhhhhhhh (duh@duh.com), June 28, 2003.

N e body has n e updates on 21 overnight????

Another thing... how do u register with the International Card Aliance. I wanna post a few things but I dunno how.

-- Azucena (pequenita2envy@aol.com), June 28, 2003.


Just click the "Register" button, dude. It's not tough.

-- John (John@John.com), June 28, 2003.

Everyoe- LISTEN! 21overnight IS A SCAM! Remember that old site getintheclub.com? It got such a bad reputation that the owner had to change it's name to 21overnight.

Do NOT order from them they will fuck you over

-- Frank Foster (Frank@aol.com), June 29, 2003.


I ordered from 21overnight.com and sent my money via Moneygram. Well two weeks went by with no email response or any type of confirmation... So, I called MoneyGram and asked for the status of the money I sent. The moneygram agent tolled me that my money had never been picked up, so I cancled my money transfer and received all my money back. I would suggest the same for anyone who ordered from 21overnight and wired their money, check the status of your order... You still might be able to get your money back. Ever since I cancled my money transfer, I have still yet to recieve any sort of email from them... I am a firm believer they are

-- Tyler Durden (Calimatrix69@yahoo.com), July 01, 2003.

i need to know what constitues a valid id in vegas because i bought thhis secondary form of identification and it says i'm 21. it has a barcode and everything but the only difference is that it's not a government issue. It has the state name and all my info and i'm wodering if it'll work in the casinos and the clubs? please help?

-- smknblunt69 (smknblunt69@yahoo.com), July 01, 2003.

Hi, i don't have any answers ..i am looking for information as well. I wish to obtain a new idendity or the very least some good id. to get back too the man i love. I am NOT looking for books okay. oh and the guy with that comment of reporting to fbi cia and anyone else ..why are YOu here are you a cop???

-- Debbie Penfield (Masters_slavewhore@yahoo.ca), July 02, 2003.

I MUST FUCKING ADMIT, THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS FROM PHONYID ARE CUNNING, I HAVE TO GIVE IT BACK TO THEM, BUT THERE IS ALSO SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT YOU CALL KARMA. GOES AROUND, COMES AROUND..., THATS ALL WE CAN SAY,..

-- fuckphonyid (adamsn69@yahoo.com), July 05, 2003.

these bitches at phonyid.com screwed me.. i send then $175 and its been a month and no reply... hope these motherfuckers die

-- yuvy (ewe@cwev.com), July 08, 2003.

For you gentlemen who rely on someone else's expertise for a new identity: you, your selves, are the "mother fuckers."

It isn't hard at all to get a new identity. If you knew what you were doing, you'd walk right into the state DPS (or wherever you get your driver's license), hand them a birth certificate, maybe an SSN card, and something else showing who you are (or aren't - get me?). Then you'd be set with a state ID - or you can pass the test and get a state driver's license...

I know I've given you no info, but if you email me, I will!

-Dan Roberts

-- Dan Roberts (Dan_Roberts1Elm@hotmail.com), July 11, 2003.


getting a new identity is much harder than just discribed. theres the cross reference of the ssdi index, interviews if for the ssn # if you dont look very young 18-21 . please do skilled research.

-- mr x (rnldlsvrmn@aol.com), July 11, 2003.

Does ANYONE know where I can get a decent Fake ID for B.C. Canada? I'm sick of hearing about the scam sites, how about the sites that aren't a scam and a waste of time.

-- Jayne (chaoticself@aol.com), July 12, 2003.

Hey I'm looking for a fake. How do I make one?

-- Romeo (opticalpopsicle@hotmail.com), July 14, 2003.

There is a pretty good reference at www.counterfeitlibrary.com if you want to make you own, but I ordered from www.youfinishit.com and it looks like a good ID. The only descrepency that I have is that the hologram laminate that they put on is slightly smaller than the surface area of the card. (this can be fixed with an x-acto knife).

-- Zach Haupin (sysadmin@charter.net), July 16, 2003.

Does anyone knoe where to buy a good fake in the bay area, email me

-- Rae shank (raeshank@aol.com), July 19, 2003.

only site online to get a real fake id is darkprofits.net

It is an underground forum with lots of members and many reviews for a few guys who make real fake id that can pass in a bar!

-- lemon head (lemon@aol.com), July 19, 2003.


Darkprofits.net isn't bad....

Personally, I like carderplanet.net better.

They're very similar (just message boards, with people selling all different stuff...including fake id's), but CP is more populated.

-- Mike (nnnn@nnnn.com), July 21, 2003.


Does any one know when perfect ids will re open.......I had a friend buy a NY id there in December and it was very close to perfect...however they are closed now..

-- Joe (tatoo5647@aol.com), July 26, 2003.

I have good news about phonyid.com! They now include holograms on their ID's.... of little globes. what .. the .. fuck.

To anyone who ordered worried about not getting an ID, you will. Rush + Express cuts your time down to about 5 months.

The ID is made of sturdy PVC, and it has your picture on it. From there they just wing it. They just put your info on there for shits and giggles.. oh.. they DID include a cute clipart of some fresh-cut oranges behind my info. I guess they thought of Florida and put two and two together.

I would have rather collected nothing at all. The card you will receive makes you feel like the idiot you are. And by the time you get it (in my case) you may have already turned 21.

Cheers!

-- The One (TheOne@lax.ru), July 26, 2003.


FUCK YOU ID MAN. For you who looked at fakeidmans message board and thought it real. Try to writ something in it and it will never come up. YOu know this board is real cuz it actually shows up.

-- FUCK YOU IDMAN (fuckidmanyoufucker@mail.com), July 29, 2003.

hi i just wanted to say thank god i found your site before i ordered an id from phonyid! i emailed them awhile back to ask a question and they finally emailed me back with an answer and i emailed back today and told them i heard they really suck and there's no way in hell i would order from them! i hope they get shut down. thanks for the tips guys!

lily

-- lily (linohau02@aol.com), July 31, 2003.


forum.carderplanet.com is the place to go if you want a real fake id. its expensive ranging from 150 to 400, but its worth it b/c you know its real. in order for any of the vendors on the website to sell an ID they have to get it "reviewed" first by someone else. so the official reviewer send the vendor a picture and his name and the state that he's supposed to be vending and waits for it to arrive. then he put up an official review rating all possible types of defects, bendability, color scheme, template, encoder, holograms. then the buyer looks at the review and decides for the price he's offering for the quality the reviewer says it is, is it worth buying. if any vendor scams a buyer, you just let the website no, and the get a warning label of "scammer" so nobody will buy from them under their name from then on until they refund the money or send the product. but usually scams only happen when their are thousands of dollars involved in a purchase. vendors aren't going to ruin their reputation for a measely 200 bucks, when they make so much more of the site. so anyhow if you want a real ID this is the place to go, go to the ID forum and make a post declaring what state you'd like your id in and just wait for vendors to repluy. or go to the search and type in your state. its awesome, and their are some really reputable artists in their that don't fuk around, they know what they are doing and they are all about business. so yeah i hope i answered everyones question abotu the best place to go. oh yeah this site isn't a company its a forum that different credit card or id makers come to congregate and do their business, that's why its different then all the other stupid online websites that don't deliver. its the black market for fake IDs right in your living room instead of walking down the streets of some big sity lookingfor a vendor.

-- Jessie (fortuita@ufl.edu), August 03, 2003.

I orderd from a site that does honestly deliever an awsome ID, scans, holos, and blacklight. 180 though ive used it for about 6 months works great.

-- not sayin (notsayin@hotmail.com), August 04, 2003.

your full of it. and so is the guy before you. how many times is everyone going to get scammed until they realize that you cannot get a fake id online?

-- alan (thepurpose@greenspun.com), August 04, 2003.

My suggestion is to find a someone you know that looks similiar to you and have them get a copy of their license. It will be scannable and authentic...you just have to look like them. I did this and it works.

-- (blah@blah.com), August 06, 2003.

I just posted the last post and realized I have this site in my favorites.

http://www.hackcanada.com/canadian/scams/beginners_fake-id.html

that site tells ya how to make your own.

-- Ethan (blah@blah.com), August 06, 2003.


Does anyone know what the IDs from phonyid.com for BC, Canada are like?

-- joe smith (snow_boarder_8@hotmail.com), August 07, 2003.

LEARNED THE LESSON... fake IDs online are impossible. and i was fortunate enough to stumble upon this before i ordered from phonyid.com. that site is pretty damn sly, the sleek, crisp setup, the guarantees, all that crap. i was about to order when i read the part of the legal terms and conditions that said: "You acknowledge that the following disclaimers of authenticity are affixed to each Novelty ID: Not a Government issued document." ha. nice.

considering that i live in nyc, you'd figure that it would be easy to obtain a fake ID. not so. times square had a pretty solid reputation for selling IDs-- about the same quality as phonyid.com's, i'd say. you could usually get them at those tourist- electronic shops, usually owned by indian people. but when i so smartly went traipsing through stores upon stores looking for an ID (as subtly as i could), all refused. post-9/11 backlash, i guess.

if you know of an underground/d-l ID hookup in the city, give me a holler. i could throw in some cash or old DVDs for you.

-- mmhmyeahright (kimm84@msn.com), August 08, 2003.


Okay, im sick of this bullhit... I am a spoiled rich kid i'll do ne thing just to get a fuckin id. here is my proposal: ill give 3GRAND! to ne one who can hook me up with a quality id,in the l.A area, I cant seem to find one any where else

-- never (littleprincess13@yahoo.com), August 09, 2003.

www.darkprofits.net

Simple as that, a real site. Live posting, not fakeidman bullshit. Check it out, for a month, whatever you want, post it really does get posted. Bash fakeidman, you better beleive it gets posted heh.

-- www.darkprofits.net (darkprofits@darkprofits.net), August 10, 2003.


FUCK....I just sent my order to phony YESTERDAY via fed-ex. Dammit I wish I had found this site earlier. I put in an order to 21overnight.com too, and paid via Western Union. Luckily that transaction never went through b/c I didn't call to verify it. Man I am pissed I got scammed by a UK piece of trash.

-- Ed (anonymous@noone.com), August 12, 2003.

Fuck phonyid.com i was thinking of ordering from them but not now i don't get it if they would put out somthing of quality then they'd make a shitload of money maby i should start a fake id site that is legit and make a killing

-- thats for me to know (whatwver@whatever.com), August 20, 2003.

I just wanted to tell you all that you are fucking amazing... I was about to order an id from 21overnight. com but luckily I stumbled upon this... so thanks for saving me some money....

-- Rachel (rachel38569@hotmail.com), August 20, 2003.

MY STUPID ASS JUST ORDERED AN ID FROM 21OVERNIGHT.COM, AND YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO RECIEVE A COMFIRMATION EMAIL WHEN THEY GET IT, BUT ITS BEEN A WEEK WITH NOTHING SAYING THAT THEY GOT MY MONEY. THIS SUX. DOES ANY ONE KNOW WHAT I CAN DO?? NEED ID BAD!!

-- ELISA (ELISA840@AOL.COM), September 06, 2003.

A BEGINNER'S GUIDE TO FAKE ID

BY ONEEYEWILLY

oneeyewilly1@hushmail.com

December 2000

In the recent months there has been an increase in the popularity of fake I.D., due to the media attention of sites on the Internet. Unfortunately the media attention is because of sites that are just flat out scams. These scam sites will either send you nothing or some crap they call a fake id, after receiving your money of course. More and more of these scam sites pop up every day. An old, but effective trick for these scheming webmasters is to offer very high quality samples to be viewed on the site. This trickery is accomplished by stealing the pictures off legitimate sites or by just scanning picture out of the Drivers Licence Guide. This guide is a detailed book of all the current drivers licences for Canada, United States, and Europe. This book can be obtained only by legitimate business and law enforcement. The guide is widely available on the Internet, in scanned page format. In the book each state or province has a page dedicated to it wilth a picture and all of the security features outlined.

Can't trust the Internet you say? Well then what better to do than make you own I.D.

Producing your own I.D. can get complicated fast depending on what type of security features the I.D. you're tying to duplicate has. This guide will help you identify what is needed to beat these features.

TYPES IDENTIFICATION

When referring to ID, one could be talking about numerous documents. I will be concentrating on Provincial/State ID's and Drivers Licences in this guide. However the techniques can be used to forge just about any documents of interest. Years ago a drivers licence was usually security paper that was laminated and maybe a hologram (Those were the days). Now due to the advances in technology and the reduction of price that come with that, new measures had to be taken to deter forgery.

Almost all the id's these days are now made out of Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC). If you have ever seen a credit card this is what PVC is. These new PVC cards can only be printed on using very expensive printers like Fargo or Electron. This is meant to make it hard for counterfeiters, but like anything else there are ways around this with out spending 5-10 grand on a printer.

NOW TO THE GOOD STUFF

An ID can be made from scratch or you can save some time by finding templates available on the Internet. In simple terms, basically a template is the id saved on you computer ready to be printed then laminated. The very best program for making id is now Adobe Photoshop 6. The templates you will find on the net are usually saved in .psd (photoshop) format. These templates vary in quality, but there are good ones out there. However the only way to insure quality is to make one yourself. Making a template is not easy and takes a decent amount of photoshop experience. The best way to learn is to experiment yourself.

To make a template you can either scan the id at a high resolution and edit it from there, or, to make a higher quality one what you need to do is do it by hand measuring every line and doing the artwork yourself. This method is not for the absolute beginner but like I said you need to try. Once the template is complete with your info on it then it can be printed.

PRINTING MATERIALS

Depending on the ID you're making you will need to select the right material to print on.

If it is a laminated ID then photo paper will be best. If you are making a PVC ID, then you would use a product called TESLIN. This material is fairly new and is an excellent, cost effective way to forge PVC ID's. This material can be printed by laser or inkjet printers. There is a difference between inkjet and laser Teslin. Obviously the laser Teslin is for laser printer and same with the inkjet. Printing on Teslin with an inkjet does not work well so inkjet Teslin is for this. The inkjet is coated with chemicals to absorb the ink effectively. Once printed on and laminated, Teslin becomes almost exactly like PVC. More information on Teslin can be found at www.teslin.com and can be purchased at www.idsupply.com.

LAMINATION

After your template is printed out on what ever material, it needs to be laminated.

Like everything else the type of lamination varies depending on the material you are laminating.

For normal paper or photo paper, you can get pouches in different thicknesses or mils. A good thickness to work with is 10 mil. To laminate Teslin you need butterfly pouches for Teslin.

Laminating pouches also come in different varieties. You can get ones that are glossy or that are matte. Also they come with hi or low co magnetic strips. Lamination can be found at www.idsupply.com. A good decent laminator is a must for the id hobbyist. My personal preference is the Docuseal 40 available for about 40 bucks.

HOLOGRAMS

There are various methods used to create the holograms that are implemented on ID's.

Depending on the color of the hologram and its properties different paints and inks can be used.

There is another fairly new product out that I can't say enough about called Photo-EZ.

This product is for making stencils. A stencil is basically the outline of a picture with the negative part missing. To make the stencil you scan the hologram off your id, then convert it to an all black image. Next you print the image on a transparency. A transparency is a transparent sheet of plastic meant for inkjet printers or lasers. Then you take the transparency and tape it to the Photo-EZ. You put it out in the sun and all the areas of the material not covered by the black negative of the holo cures. When washed the part covered by the negative washes away, leaving you with your stencil. You will want to order the high resolution material. This product can be ordered from www.cbridge.com and more information can be found there.

As for the painting material, the two main ones are Interference Gold (Fine) made by Golden Acrylics and PERL-EX DUOTONE. The latter of the materials work best because of the fact it reflects two colors of the spectrum. Perl-Ex comes as a powder and preparation is needed. These paints are transparent when viewed from straight on. When viewed from different angles you see different colors depending on the particular colors of the paint. Perl-Ex comes in Duo Red- Blue, Duo Blue-Green, and Duo Green-Yellow. Perl-Ex is available in a lot of places here is one: www.sierra-enterprises.com/pearlex.htm

You have to buy a Transparent Base made for paints to prepare the Perl-Ex. A good one is Speedball Transparent Base. You mix in a 1:50 ratio. 1 part Per- 50 parts base. If you are using Golden acrylics then you use a 5:1 ratio. 5 parts paint 1 part base. When applying the paint in the stencil, you should use if possible one of those brushes made for screen printing. It is like a pencil but with a flexible tip. A sponge can be used but extra care needs to be taken when applying. You want to apply a very thin amount and practice will be needed to get it right.

On a lot of the new ID's there is a multicolored hologram that reflects the full spectrum (like a rainbow). This is especially true of most of the Canadian ids. What you do is pick the two most dominant colors and buy the matching Perl Ex colors. This will be good enough to reproduce the holo. The holo can be put directly on the finished ID or before lamination on the inside of the pouch. If you choice is the inside then remember to put it in the reverse.

CONCLUSION

Making an id takes practice and you will go through quite a few mistakes but eventually it can be mastered. The best way is just to try and also read everything you can get your hands on like everything else. Like anything else there are places available to find out more. You can go to #fakeid on Dalnet with IRC. I stress that you read everything you can before asking "how can I make a fake id" in the chat rooms. You will just get ignored because it can't be explained in a few sentences.



-- E-mail me if you appreciate this (apple_ipod_3g@hotmail.com), September 07, 2003.


I also ordered from Phonyid, like a dumbass...i assumed fakeidman.org was a "real, unbiased" site. Getting burned by phony taught me that no id site on the internet can be trusted, no matter what they 'claim'. Get the word out to all other forums...PhonyID.com IS A SCAM, DON'T ORDER, DON'T BE HYPNOTIZED BY THE 'PRETTY' SITE AND FLASH INTRO. On another note...the 'how to' posted by apple_ipod_3g@hotmail.com was very cool and insightful, thanks for the post.

-- "J" (solfiend2000@yahoo.com), September 09, 2003.

RE: postings put up by "Robby Steele" I wanted to know if you ever got your id from phony? Last post i read you had not recieved it yet but were promised a re-ship if you hadn't got it in 2 weeks from april (which was your last post) Did you ever recieve anything from them? I'm still waiting...i assume if i don't recieve a damn thing i can get them for fraud. Any info would be appreciated.

To all else: Are there other 'quality' boards with help on making your own ID's?

thanks again for any info "J"

PHONYID=SCAM PHONYID=SCAM PHONYID=SCAM

-- "J" (solfiend2000@yahoo.com), September 10, 2003.


To those who want the REAL truth. My story is this. My driver's license is suspended for FIVE years. I sent off to Phonyid.com a request for a Minnesota Driver's license in which I had someone else's info. The web site looked real and with a legit looking DL with legit info and my picture I could go to another state and exchange it for a REAL license by saying I'd moved there. After a couple of month's I e-mailed them wanting to know wher my i.d. was. They replied in a day or two with One-line e-mails like "When did you place you order?" and "What method of shipping did you you use?" This went on for a month or so.I had paid with a postal money order so I went to the post office and filled out a form to see if the money order had been cashed. I recieved a photocopied reply from USPS clearly showing where CeTech had cashed it two months after I sent my order. Their stamp was on the back. When I e-mailed the "company" with this information they said for me to sent the photocopy with another order form and they'd send me another i.d. I sent it registered mail so the couldn't say it had been "lost" or never recieved at all. Well my letter was refused and sent back to me and I never did get an i.d at all. Now I'm not some college kid trying to get an i.d. to bar-hop. I'm a guy trying to get my freedom to drive back. I put a lot of research into this and even purchased the I.D. Checking Guide to make sure everything would be perfect. I even sent an e-mail to phonyid.com to ask if they were familiar with this book and if they used it. Which they replied "Yes." So my advice is PLEASE don't waste your money. You would be better off trying to find someone who works at the DMV and spending any money saved for an i.d. on this person to see if they'd "hook" you up. But be careful because 9/11 fucked up the i.d. business for everyone and most DMV's are cracking down on co-workers selling i.d.'s. Hope this info. is useful to you guys. Be careful and Good Luck!!!!!

-- anonymous (alieusmaximuss@yahoo.com), September 17, 2003.

HELLO all, Im looking for a fake ID and am in the chicago area can anyone help me out? please email me.

-- joe (ballr43@hotmail.com), September 19, 2003.

I finally ordered my id from youfinishit.com. Got it in about a week and a half. It looks nothing like any real state driver's liceneses but I think thats how they get away with it. The custom designs are decent and what you see on the site is what you get so I'd suggest ordering one far enough away that a bouncer wont know what the actual state I.D. looks like. By the way, it says on the site that you are supposed to fax or mail them a signed "legal agreement" but after I sent for my order I got an email telling me not to worry about it. I am well aware someone is going to post telling me I am full of shit after this, but whatever, this is my two cents on the whole fake I.D. thing, case closed. Besides, you pay through paypal and and if you don't get a product, you don't pay, that simple.

-- John (Stealth708@aol.com), September 24, 2003.

21overnight is crap... But I was saved thanks to Western Union! When I tried to confrim my order, i had to call westurn union, they then had told me the person whom i was sending this order has been a reported scamster and that my order wouldnt be sent through. THANK YOU WESTERN UNION!

-- Peter A (Stacks97@aol.com), September 25, 2003.

Based on this message board, even though i'm almost certain that PhonyID is a scam. I sent away for a free sample(what the hell). If anything comes to me at all, then what should I expect from PhonyID. Seems like everybody just straight up order, is there anyone who got a free sample first?If so, what is it? Thanx

-- Peter A (Stacks97@aol.com), September 25, 2003.

Hey man, there's no harm in ordering a sample because it's free. Regardless though, you shouldn't order an ID from them. If you do, now that you have read this message board, you are truly an idiot. Let me know what the sample looks like.

-- vince (voodoovince@hotmail.com), September 26, 2003.

Does anyone know of anywhere I can get an ID in Indiana? I am in Bloomington and there are quite a few people in search of a good ID.

-- Alex (iualex07@yahoo.com), September 28, 2003.

We suck a lot of dick for money ok? Send us some money and we'll buy slaves with it

-- Phony ID (webmaster@phony-id.com), September 29, 2003.

Like a dumbass I sent my money for an ID from phonyid.com. I feel bad though, at least you guys got something for the $135 you sent in, however trashy it might be. 6 months have past by and I dont even have a piece of shit to show for it. I sent an email asking where it was and this was the response. "I assure you that everyone who places an order with us does receive their order. However, security reasons prevent us from confirming orders via email. We have found the most secure method for us to protect our customer's privacy is not to confirm orders that are received." What a load of crap, DON'T BE A SUCKER LIKE I WAS, learn from others experience's.

-- Jeff S (phony-id@cansuckit.com), October 02, 2003.

Hey fakeidman you better pray to god i dont find you, I know the area you live in... I will not only retrieve my $220 but I may beat the shit out of one of your family members, you just fucked with the wrong person. You only die once mother fucker.

-- Monk (mike@monkdesigns.com), October 04, 2003.

I sent my 135+ t phonyid.com the day before I found this palce. I read that fake review board thought it was gonna be a great ID. I say we unite an offensive against Phony ID.

-- fuk phonyid (phonygonnadie@aol.com), October 09, 2003.

SO MANY CHEATEN DUMMIES ? !

Cool... Market is growing...

-- fakeIDMan (sales@fakeidman.org), October 14, 2003.


Anybody REALLY REALLY know how to obtain a REAL non-bullshit I.D. for good cash? Email me with answers or sugestions.

-- Jorden (Jorden_Lasar@yahoo.com), October 15, 2003.

I fucking hate liars. I hate phoney ID (if it's fake) and I hate people who say it's fake if they're lying. And I don't want to lose 100 bucks to find out. I might do some more reasearch tomorrow. I've found that email addys can be googled. If the email addy has a lot of hits and looks legit, then the person probably is for real. I've also found that yahoo emails, and hotmail (to some extent) can be checked. Anyone who has Y!messenger or MSN Messenger will know how.

I seriously doubt that anyone online can offer fake IDs, but I will post my results. WITH MY REAL EMAIL. And my email can be googled to find even my address. Indeed.

Also: two more things. Communists are up in the night. Seinfeld is funny. :D

-- Nunya (fuck@you.com), October 20, 2003.


Well, I was looking into buying an ID from phonyid.com for a few days... read through it all, looked pretty legit. It seemed too profesional to be a rip-off. The nice flashy intro and nicely designed pages as opposed to all of the other pages I've seen that were hastily done. Their free sample was also a big influence, and I see how it works now because I thought the same thing, "Well I don't want to wait 1-2 months to get a SAMPLE, then wait another 1-2 months just to get my ID!" I was pretty much sold already, had the papers printed out and signed.. but decided I had to find out more. I searched google for them, and sure enough, I found, to what I thought, the most non-biased site that rated the quality of all the ID sites around online. Sure as hell, Phoneyid.com had a 9 out of 10. I was even more excited to order. Then I stumbled into their forums, and read all this hype about the "swedes" and about how there is so much secrecy behind them, but all anyone really said was they were indestinguishable from the real thing. "Wow," I thought, "Jackpot." Then I saw something on his boards that made mention of Phonyid.com being mentioned in Business Week, so I searched google for "phonyid.com business week" and stumbled across this. Thank god. Not only did I save my own ass $100, I was also considering the extra $75 for rush processing and shipping. I was also telling friends about it too, and some were seriously considering it. But, following some of the links posted by other into some of the forums, I have been able to get into contact with people who DO produce the real thing. Sure, the price is higher, sure, but the products are delivered as they say they are and the quality is superb. Great quality comes at a price. Best of luck to everyone in attempts to solve their identification needs. Sorry to all of those who have been scammed or burnt already by phony or any other of the rip-offs.

-Joe

-- Joe (joe@corporate.com), October 20, 2003.


My story is exactly the same as the one posted above with the exception that I had already mailed payment. Professional looking site, solid reviews, etc. And my money order went into the mailbox hoping to get an ID for my girlfriend. An hour later I went back online to the FakeIDMan forum to figure out roughly when I'd receive the card. Something seemed "off" about the setup that I hadn't recognized before. Googled "Cetech Inc. Sweden" and came across this forum. Needless to say, I went back to the bank and put a stop payment on my money order. Wish I had looked into this more, as I'm out $34 total for the stop payment, postage and money order fee. But better that than $135. I'd take more delight in the idea of PhonyID struggling to cash a stopped check, but unfortunately, I suspect he's got another twenty or so active checks also ready for cashing that day. And audactiy for a PhonyID rep to type a "HaHa Suckers" reply just a few posts prior to this one...well, let's hope some of the above people who threatened their business aren't all talk.

-- Thin White Duke (furiousgeorge@treacherous.zzn.com), October 23, 2003.

anyone had experience w/ beatthebouncer.com? it looks too good to be true.

thanks

-- sdffds dsffds (dfs@dfsfds.com), October 28, 2003.


Yes I ordered an ID from 21overnight.com and boy am I glad I did. Cuz now I too can say I got FUCKING SCAMMED. Sweeeeet. Anyways, I live in souther california (san diego) If anyone knows of someone who makes fake ID's that I can do it through without having to use the internet please let me know. I'm over all this internet nonsense. So stay away from 21OVERNIGHT.COM!!!!!

-- Jon (jonlyons78@hotmail.com), October 29, 2003.

I ordred my id from phonyid.com over a month ago and havn't received anything.

-- leroyjenkins (leroyjenkins69@hotmail.com), October 29, 2003.

anyone know where i can get a good id in the connecticut area if u do email me

-- Johnny A. (john9401@hotmail.com), November 01, 2003.

Oh my god u guys have saved my ass. I was fully convinced (Phonyid.com)i even had about 12 people who were going to order with me, not only would we have been out our $$ im pretty sure i would have been left drunk in a fucking field in the middle of nowhere by them if they got fucked. What made me suspicious was all of the different links that went to their page, just put phonyid into google and itll come up with 10 diff addresses that link to phonyid.com. Well fuck that, IM gonnna make my own,---this thread is a life saver. Thanks! And btw i might go to germany next sem to study abroad and i've always wanted to see beautiful sweeden, specifically whoever picks up the mail from a certain PO BOX, and i dont claim to be a big guy, 165lb but ill tell you what none of that matters when you get a frozen paintball to the face, or slashed tires........ whatever. good luck, and to everyone out there, dont risk online unless you are fully prepared to lose money. Thanks again

-- Nick (notgoingtotellyou@nono.com), November 03, 2003.

Anyone know how to obtain a good fake ID in NYC or in the Tri- State/NorthEast Area? If so I'm willing to pay for quality and autheticity. I got screwed pretty bad and willing to pay upto $300 for fake ID...for New Jersey Fake ID I'd pay Less.....email me

-- Rob (IDHELPNYC@aol.com), November 05, 2003.

Stay clear!!!!!

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-- Lue (sub03@yahoo.com), November 06, 2003.


Can somebody please help me? I need a Birth Certificate, and Social Security card A.S.A.P So I can obtain a Drivers License. Somebody please stear me in the right direction.

-- Roy Lance Warner (trooperrlw@yahoo.com), November 13, 2003.

Can somebody please help me? I need a Birth Certificate, and Social Security card A.S.A.P So I can obtain a Drivers License. Somebody please stear me in the right direction.I will be waiting your response

-- Roy Lance Warner (trooperrlw@yahoo.com), November 13, 2003.

Does anybody know if the kevlar site is real. crew sellers

-- Ozzie (oziaja8564@student.ccc.edu), November 14, 2003.

HEY PEOPLE, I'VE READ EVERYTHING ABOUT FAKE IDS THANK GOD I HAVENT SENT THEM MY MONEY YET!I WAS PREVIOUSLY SCAMMED BY GLOBALIDS.NET OR WORLDIDS.COM(SAME WEBSITE BUT DIFF URL NAMES.)THEY ARE LOCATED IN VANCOUVER BRITHIS COLUMBIA, MATTER FACT THIS IS THEIR ADD: GLOBAL 34152 STN D VANCOUVER, BC CANADA V6J 4N1 .

BE ADVISED, THEY ARE JUST ANOTHER SCAMMER. MATTER OF FACT I WAS SCAMMED FOR ABOUT 150 USD. WHEN I FOUND OUT, IWAS PISSED AS HELL. CONCERNING PHONYID.COM " AM JUST GONNA PHOTOCOPY A HUNDRED DOLLAR BILL AND MAIL IT TO THEM " THOSE BASTARDS! THEY CAN HAVE FUN DEPOSITING IT IN THEIR FAT ACCOUNT.

-- Ishoro finyele (felabab70@hotmail.com), November 16, 2003.


hey i just got in my ID from www.youfinishit.com they are a great site, no complaints as in they did a great job. i got an oregon id and its looks not bad at all. A+ for them

Brett

-- neonafk (neon_afk@zzz.com), November 17, 2003.


that's bullshit.

-- jim jenkins (jimjenx@hotmail.com), November 18, 2003.

its not bullshit. I acquired a maine one at the beginning of the school year and have yet to be denied from a bar in pittsburgh.

-- John (Stealth708@aol.com), November 19, 2003.

This is hilarious...why would anyone ever buy an ID online? Listen, if you want an ID, go to "Whatever II" on Bleaker St. in SOHO (New York). I got hooked up with a Michigan ID WITH HOLOGRAMS for $45...and it fucking scans too. I live in Mass, and while I have never tried it in a bar, I have been able to buy beer from several nearby liquor stores with no problem at all. I'm only 17, but the ID is of such good quality that I never have problems. If you don't believe me, then stop by the shop and see for yourself. It's a tattoo parlor supposedly, but they make IDs on the downlow...they take your picture right there and make it for you within an hour. Just try it and let me know what you think.

-- Dane Dudman (DaneD577@hotmail.com), November 19, 2003.

trooperrlw..i got a birth cert,

-- marty mcb (martyrfc@hotmail.com), November 20, 2003.

yo Dane Dudman,

is that place in NY you were talkin about give just state IDs or driver licenses too?

-- carlos (carlossantos@hotmail.com), November 24, 2003.


Mine is a Michigan driver's license, it has never been questioned by a clerk, bouncer, or bartender, but I'm not sure if it would hold up against a cop...

-- Dane Dudman (DaneD577@hotmail.com), November 25, 2003.

www.crew-sellers.com/kevlar/

This is legit... I have a friend that acquired one. A little pricy though at $185 a pop. For an incoming college student a priceless investment however. The guy who makes the id's is very professional and even sent my buddy who ordered one a second one because the first one had some hologram defects... Hardly noticeable but wasn't up to his standards.

-- John (Stealth708@aol.com), December 01, 2003.


No website online is legit. Period.

-- 01212 (121212@1212.com), December 03, 2003.

That is a very amteur comment if I may say so myself. While no doubt there is a plethora of sites that deliver either no product at all or a product undeserving of any type of honorable mention, simply writing off any type of internet site as a lost cause is giving up far too early. It is not any secret that the only way to be absolutely sure that something is legit to have first hand experience with a friend getting one for himself, however this same principle works for verifying that something is not legit. You cannot write something off until someone has already been scammed by a site. Take it for what its worth, believe me or don't believe me. I speak to you as an honest man who has a little more than 5 months until he is 21. All my friends are turning 21 before my eyes, and the only way I even keep myself in the social enviornment I've become accustomed to was to acquire a fake ID. I ordered my ID from youfinishit.com and got exactly what I expected from the site. The ID looks nothing like the actual Maine ID, but using it in PA, not many bouncers know off hand what the actual ME design looks like. (PS, as I am writing this message, I am drunk from celebrating one of my friends 21 at a bar that I used my fake at). I am in a fraternity and have a good friend who acquired an id from www.crew-sellers.com/kevlar/ and it is beautiful... An almost spot on replication of the real thing. The only reason why I am still interested in the whole fake ID buisness is because I am going to order one for my incoming freshman brother and want only the best for him. I have endured the unfortunate incident of getting an underage drinking citation and would do anything to save others from the same fate. The ID i have now gets me into a few bars, but taking it to the next level, i would show the KEVLAR Id to a police officer under certain circumstances. When drinking underage, confidence is as just as important as circumstance, and this would give me the appropriate confidence to even show a cop.

John

-- John (Stealth708@aol.com), December 03, 2003.


i can tell you're lying, because making even close to an exact replica is a federal crime. Just give it a rest, man. You were probably ripped off somehow, and you want everyone else to be ripped off just as you have been. So listen up everybody. The purpose of this board is to get the following message across to as many people as possible: DO NOT BUY FAKE ID'S ONLINE!! Even if the other sites deliver something, it's not going to get you into clubs or even pass at a supermarket. So save yourselves some money and try to find a legit dealer in your area.

-- Matt Simon (fullcoll@hotmail.com), December 03, 2003.

I certainly hope you don't plan on becoming a professional poker player anytime soon because if you think I'm lying, you should reconsider. No shit that duplicating a government document is a federal crime, one that will put anyone away for a long time. On the kevlar site, if you look closely, you will realize there isn't any way for you to even do so much as email your order to the webmaster... You have to upload it to the site and then he downloads it from the site. This is a man who realizes he is walking on thin ice and cannot afford to fuck up.

You are absolutely correct that the purpose of this board is to alert people of scams, but it is also to inform people of sources that are real. Hell, even the kevlar site has a message board that you can research for the same reasons. Do you think that is all contrived? Doubtful... Especially considering you yourself can post anything you want up there.

The sad thing is no matter what I say, It isn't going to sway some people's opinions one way or the other. I bet that there are a select few who after reading this thread will still go on ordering an id from phonyID just because they don't know where else to go and figure that there is no such thing as bad publicity.

The fact is, you should consider yourselves lucky to be endowed with the information I am providing you. I am not someone who is pissed off because I have gotten scammed, I am someone who is pissed off because you have to be 21 years old to drink a fucking beer. It is time for us to start scamming the powers that be.

John

-- John (Stealth708@aol.com), December 04, 2003.


damn im glad i didnt buy from phonyid.com i check them out and fakeidman.org and thought both were legit, untill i stumbled upoin this forum, i was just about to sent in the money and the works. thanks for the truth guys.

-- Pennymason(common now freal) (pro2aria@yahoo.com), December 06, 2003.

I got 100 bucs ready for anyone who would like to "help" me getting a fake us license. if there is any CIA or whatever crap worried about that, get the shit out of me, if i was a terrorist i wouldn' ask on this site, right? Stupid Cops, but not that stupid to don't recognize a bad made fake license, so if is that what u sell get the shit out of me,too. if u are serious dealers, i am here with fella a. lincoln, or whatever portrait is on the 100 dollars, waiting for you. peace and don't bother me stupid cops, cuz i am a very carefull driver.

-- John Jack (mark_wilmots@yahoo.it), December 07, 2003.

TELL ME EVERYTHING ABOUT THE PLACE IN SOHO, PLEASE!!!! I REALLY ASK U THIS BIG PLEASURE. THANKS A LOT

-- dhksa (froimont@yahoo.it), December 07, 2003.

Like many other posts I have read...I realized I am not the only one who has been ripped off by Phony-ID. :(

I sent my order JULY 5th....aka FIVE MONTHS AGO!!!! I have called the number in Sweden even! And have gotten no response back!!

I saw the good reviews for that site on FakeIDMAN..I was fooled just as most people were. And their site was SOOOO CONVINCING.

DO NOT BUY UR IDS ONLINE...AND DEFINITELY NOT FROM PHONY ID .COM

You know whats funny..he may be laughing himself to the bank...but...what is going to happen when he dies? You think hes going to be anywhere but burning in hell for decieving so many people and being such a horrible person?

That man deserves to die. What a kniving man...

-Kate

-- Kate (kdickman@chaminade.edu), December 09, 2003.


Anyone got any info on this site..

www.digitalproductsuk.cwc.net

It looks legit, but then again, they all do..

The samples look great, and the info looks pretty believeable, but I haven't found any info as far as reviews go of the site itself, so any info would help..

Thanks

-- Ted (TLinczak@adelphia.net), December 09, 2003.


I don't have any input as to whether or not they will actually send a product, but it may not be what they represent... The samples are most likely taken from a bar book, and the time and effort it would take to produce and have the versatility to duplicate actual government issued state designs for all the staes and security features for each specific state would entail much more effort and capability than a small underground company could put fourth.

For the highest quality product, it would make the most sense to focus on duplicating just one specific type of design and security features... sacrificing selection of locations for authenticity of the product.

John

-- John (Stealth708@aol.com), December 09, 2003.


To Ted:

After looking at the site: digitalproductsuk.cwc.net and searching through their State DL's I came across the New York image. First, the images are small, so overall quality and whether a UV holo is utilized can not be determined. What caught my eye, was the image of the DL itself and the dorky looking guy in the pic. I know I've seen this guy somewhere before... so I spent the next ten minutes doing a bit of research. Low and behold, I found the image on another site. See here: http://www.symbol.com/products/barcode_scanners/2d_solutions_govid_cs _aamvacas.html The name, address and picture are all the same.

My point is this... anyone who would hijack an image from another site to use as "their product" can be legitimate. As for a few ID vendors that I'm personally aware of... Kevlar and Perfectids (noted above) produce quality products.

As mentioned above, only scam sites will claim to produce all 50 states and generally, those that produce 2-10 will deliver.

Best regards, BlackOps SC Admin

-- BlackOps (nope@no-idea.net), December 10, 2003.


To Ted:

After looking at the site: digitalproductsuk.cwc.net and searching through their State DL's I came across the New York image. First, the images are small, so overall quality and whether a UV holo is utilized can not be determined. What caught my eye, was the image of the DL itself and the dorky looking guy in the pic. I know I've seen this guy somewhere before... so I spent the next ten minutes doing a bit of research. Low and behold, I found the image on another site. See here: http://www.symbol.com/products/barcode_scanners/2d_solutions_govid_cs _aamvacas.html The name, address and picture are all the same.

My point is this... anyone who would hijack an image from another site to use as "their product" can't be legitimate. As for a few ID vendors that I'm personally aware of... Kevlar and Perfectids (noted above) produce quality products.

As mentioned above, only scam sites will claim to produce all 50 states and generally, those that produce 2-10 will deliver.

Best regards, BlackOps SC Admin

-- BlackOps (nope@no-idea.net), December 10, 2003.


In the Omaha, NE area looking for a good fake. Hit me up if you know anybody or any places close. Willing to pay good money.

-- JP (johnman03@netscape.net), December 17, 2003.

does anyone know anything about http://www.fakeidgroup.com/?

-- Che Guevara (what_would_che_do@yahoo.com), December 18, 2003.

I want to believe phonyid is a scam. But what about the legitimate news angencies reporting on them? This is the only thing keeping me from forgetting about them alltogether.

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/nov2001/nf2001118_2027.ht m

www.journalism.indiana.edu/gallery/student/j201spring02/ rabeam/survival/hrabosky/index1.html

Also, if anyone knows any places in the DC area that make IDs "on the side" pleeease let me know so i can forget about all this online BS.

-- DCguy (yea@right.com), December 19, 2003.


ok heres how you get a new identity. if you aren't bright enough to make your own fake id, have someone make you one... a good one... real good.. scannable and everything.... next, forge a birth certificate... which is quite simple to do... the next step is to apply for social security, since you have now acquired 2 valid forms of identification (id and birth cert).. once you have that, you can apply for all sorts of credit cards, etc... another alternative it to find out somebody's soc sec number, make a fake id with your picture and their name, apply for a new credit card at your "new" adress, and run the muthafucka up...

by the way... this is all in theory and please don't do it otherwise its your own fault that you get arrested.. because you will most likely eventually get arrested..

-- Dan Pops (pops13btl@aol.com), December 24, 2003.


Ah I think I am another one that just got ascrewed OUT OF $200!!! Does anyone here know about American-Novelty?? There were a few e- mails that have been sent back & forth a few times with them so I finally decided to order. They also had a special 3 i.d's for $199.99 before Jan 1. So I sent out the order form with payment next day air & now all of a sudden there site is down!! DOES ANYONE HAVE INFO ON THIS SITE OR ACTUALLY ORDERED FROM THEM BEFORE???? or should I just bend over & let someone kick me in my ass??

-- Kev (empirenycee@aol.com), December 29, 2003.

I need someone in the NY or NJ area that can actually get i.d's I'm tired of everyone saying they could get them but when it comes time its a bunch of bullshit!!. So if anyone out there has connections to get them send me a email & we could do alot for eachother. DO NOT SEND ME LINKS ABOUT ANOTHER SITE ONLINE THERE ALL GARBAGE & SHOULD ALL BE REPORTED TO THE FBI OR SOMESHIT..

Thanks in advance.

-- Kev (empirenycee@aol.com), December 29, 2003.


Don't know if anyone will actually read down this far but if you do, as stated before, PhonyID.com is a scam. I sent them cash (with extra money for rush delivery) about a week after my friend (he sent a money order). After about 6 weeks, he got a shitty looking "Identification" ***NOT DRIVERS LISCENCE*** with a paragraph on how it is a Novelty ID PRINTED ON THE BACK ***NOT A STICKER*** My theory is if you send cash you get nothing back, if you send a money order you get a SHITTY NOVELTY IDENTIFICATION. This was the second (and last) time I sent out money for an ID on the internet because they are all scams. All ID sites on the net are SCAMS, and any ID site that rates everysite low and one specific site a 9 is obviously a rip off run by that site they're promoting. DONT BE FOOLED, DON'T BUY FROM PHONYID.COM.

P.S. They are very eager to send you a free sample, but please note that the sample is not a sample of the product you will get. If you get anything at all, it will be THEIR CUSTOM MADE TEMPLATE (not reflecting an actual ID) and it will be poor quality with a warning PERMANANTLY PRINTED on the back. Save your money and buy a Keg.

-- Got Ripped Off (SCAM@PhonyID.com), December 30, 2003.


Scam sites on the internet come a dime a dozen, however there are people who use this circumstance to their full advantage. Imagine for a moment that there is a site that delivers exactly what it says it will. A college student orders one, is very pleased with it and immediately tells all of his or her friends about it. Naturally they all want one, not even thinking twice about is it a scam or isn't it for the obvious fact that their friend already has one. Now one of the kids tells his high school friend at another college about it, and so on and so fourth. You can see where this is going. This type of publicity is absolutely priceless.

I personally have had this type of first hand experience, with both people who have gotten scammed, and people who have recieved exactly what they were looking for. Being skeptical of ordering an ID from the internet, and rightfully so, I abstained from ordering one until I saw some hard evidence. Luckily at college there were plenty of kids willing to risk not getting anything for the chance to get drunk whenever, however they wanted.

After I was satisfied with what I had observed, I unflichingly ordered an ID online, got what I wanted and never looked back. I am not going to even say what site I got it from because there are those who choose to not have any faith in anything and would slander the site no matter what anyone says. All I can say is this, there are at least a few sites that are not scams out there. And the beauty of the internet is, all there really needs to be is one.

If you need the hard evidence like I did, start networking. Ask around amongst your friends at school, even friends of friends, and I am certain you will at least get some promising leads. It is not going to be that hard to do... in those last few years before anyone turns 21, especially amongst college students, fake ID is always a hot topic of discussion.

-- Marc (buisness@noneofyours.com), January 02, 2004.


American Novelty actually got back to me about my order & asked me to send them the disclaimers. I actually thought I got ripped off & that was that but I guess since I did get a reply all I can do now is just wait & see how the i.d's actually turn out... I'll keep updating on my status to see if this is a good site or not.

Kev..

-- Kev (empirenycee@aol.com), January 02, 2004.


does anyone knwo if http://www.fakeidgroup.com is legit or if it delivers shit or nothing.

-- Shaggy 2 Dope (kkkill_fake_id_man@Psychopathic serial killaz.com), January 04, 2004.

Yeah, I'd be interested in knowing if either of those 2 companies are legit.

Also, I wonder if it would be possible to expose fakeidman using the media. I bet if we all e-mail our local TV stations and newspapers the whole phonyid.com story, it could get released somewhere. It really is an amazing story in my opinion. This guy is a true genious to make all this money by doing basically nothing.

E-mail me if anyone is interested and would like me to write up an e- mail/letter to send off. (to avoid spambots I put an X at the end of the address. Just take the X off if you wanna reach me)

-- Rob Fitz (rob.fitz@gmx.netX), January 08, 2004.


The internet is full of scammers, and there are only 2 that I haven't heard anything bad about:

http://www.digitalproductsuk.cwc.net http://www.fakeidgroup.com

Anyone know if either of these are any good?

-- Rob (rob.fitz@gmx.netX), January 12, 2004.


OK So I finally got the 3 i.d's that I ordered from American-Novelty & they are not the best of i.d's. The back of them dont look anything like the real thing. Just the feel of them alone you can tell that they are pretty much fake, they are to glossy, holograms are nothing close to the real thing. The only way these i.d's will pass is if you keep them in your wallet behind some plastic but don't think about taking them out to show the i.d up close.....If you want a i.d that looks somewhat similar then get it from them but to come close to the real thing keep looking somewhere else. If anyone knows of a spot that actually does good jobs let me know.

-- Kev (empirenycee@aol.com), January 12, 2004.

I got a california ID card from American-Novelty it was excellent quality.I sent in a copy of the back I wanted for my id, and they had no complaints about using it. People should check em out.

-- Joe (locofootballman@sportsaddict.com), January 13, 2004.

fakeidgroup.com is bogus. their sample customer pictures are the same exact ones 21overnight.com had. they claim they are the only site that has customer pictures so they must be for real, but they are just the same fucking pictures from 21overnight.com. another fakeidman website. and if you go back to 2overnight.com its completely diferent then it was 2 months ago and now they say fakeidgroups is an A+. yeah fuck that, and fuck them. don't even bother with their asses

-- Jessie (b@youuuuu.com), January 15, 2004.

I took a look at the Kevlar site with the Michigan Id's ... And I think it has the potential to be the real deal... But I still dont know for sure.... What I like about the site is that it has a REAL MESSAGE BOARD that you can post on... unlike FakeIDMAN's board which is an obvious fake because you cant write messages on there.. this message board is the only single site that I can somewhat trust becuase you are able to write on here, so thats a start... any way, someone please give us some more info on kevlar...if you have any..

-- Peter A (Stacks97@aol.com), January 16, 2004.

Kevlar is for real, I know people who have actual kevlar id's. Kevlar himself posts regularly on the message boards to answer q's and reports on the status of fake id batches.

-- John (Stealth708@aol.com), January 17, 2004.

Hi.. anyone heard of anything about fakeidguru.com ? it seems like a scam..because it seems they're based out of Cario, but payment is sent to Nicuagra. Also, they're submit form is the same from fakeidgroup.com...very nice though.. Also, they are advertised on 21overnight.com..anyone ever ordered from them?

thanks, Jesse

-- Jesse (jesseou@hotmaill.com), January 18, 2004.


Both fakeidguru and fakeidgroup use barbook scans for their samples. Interestingly enough, fakeidgroup uses the barbook IDs, but puts a new face on each one. The only way I knew that they were indeed barbook scans was because of the signitures. Now why would anyone go through the trouble of scanning the barbook when they could just scan their own? I think that both of these sites are scams, but I am e- mailing them anyways, and I'll let you all know what they say.

-- Rob Fitz (rfitzger@mail.rochester.edu), January 18, 2004.

Another thing I just realized is that http://21overnight.com and http://www.underground-review.com/ are run by the same people, but they no longer sell IDs directly. Instead they "review" other websites that sell them. I think this sounds like a scam, but I could be wrong. Maybe someone else bought the domain after the old 21overnight died. who knows.

-- Rob Fitz (rfitzger@mail.rochester.edu), January 18, 2004.

Ok...after reading through this thread I have realized a lot of things and would like everyone to know

a lot of things have been said about FakeIdMan and PhonyId... let me point out everything

It is claimed that FakeIdMan and PhonyId are 1 in the same... true or false?

In an early post, it says that a user looks up phonyid.com at http://www.dslreports.com/ip and he gets CeTech or whatever. That's true. But, then he looked up fakeidman.com and claimed that it is a Swedish server... #1 - it's changed now and nothing is really even there, go to fakeidman.com now and see for urself #2 - FakeIdMan's site is fakeidman.ORG not fakeidman.COM...and when u look up a whois on that server, you dont get any information at all! Do it urself. So there is no valididity in that guy's post.

Ok... so everyone in the fakeidman.org forum is all PRO phonyid.com. And we're thinking that oh this the mastermind FakeIdMan at work posting all these amazing reviews... This forum that were in now is mostly all CON phonyid.com. So, couldnt this actually be the same thing. Some guy wants phonyid.com out of the picture, and he keeps posting all these messages in different names! That's possible too.

Look at the legitimate sources for phonyid.com. Businessweek! They research their shit. Do you really think they would put something false. I know it's possible. But, do you really think they would?

There are some people in this forum that are saying Phonyid.com is good. Not everything is bad. These could be fake or true.

Another thing, WHY IS PHONYID.COM KEEP INSISTING ON A SAMPLE!!! Nobody here has posted a review on one! What you all should do is not trust this forum but ask for a sample and see for yourself because that will be your only positive proof!

So everyone take a deep breath and think for a second, im not saying that phonyid.com isnt a scam.... but this actually thread could be one too!

Thank you,

Pat

-- Pat G (patgarofalo@hotmail.com), January 18, 2004.


I don't even feel like wasting my time responding to that comment, but I'm just gonna say this: The reason that all the posts on fakeidman.org are all pro-phonyid is because you CANNOT POST on there. I tried once and it wouldn't let me. Now if you can go in there and post something bad about them, then maybe I'd admit that there is no connection. However, for the time being I believe that there is a direct or indirect connection between phonyid and fakeidman. As for the businessweek article, I looked closely at what was said and came to the conclusion that the man who made reference to phonyid had never actually ordered from there. Rather, it was the first website that he came across on the internet that looked genuine (and had good reviews on a "reputible" website. http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/nov2001/nf2001118_2027.htm

I was almost ready to send that "sweedish" company $100 but then I did alot of research and found out that the IDs that they send are total bullshit. I've seen scans of the cards online and they do not look like a real license at all.

-- Rob Fitz (rfitzger@mail.rochester.edu), January 19, 2004.


FakeIdMan is a dead man, Little does hw know that my girlfriend is from sweeden and we are going 2 Stockholm 2 visit her parents. now even though i never ordered from his site I am going 2 visit the address people send him money 2 and I am going 2 track him down and chop his balls off so he cannot contaminate the rest of the world. I am going 2 send him 2 the emergency room. 187 on him.

-- Rolando (187_on_fakeidman@stoned.com), January 19, 2004.

I think he's actually from Maryland:

"www.phonyid.com; This scam site also has impressive samples. It is run by a criminal from Maryland who goes by the name "FakeIDman". We can all be thankful this site just a scam, but we should keep in mind all these sites are still dangerous."

http://www.geocities.com/stopfakeid/

-- Rob Fitz (rfitzger@mail.rochester.edu), January 20, 2004.


If you really want a good fake, you should go underground, to cp, sc,ccpf. I wish i could give the url to these credit cards and id's websites, but if you are in the know, you should know how to get there and how to get awesome id's including credit cards, full informations of victims, change of billing address,offshore annonymous bank accounts,stolen electronics,among other things.

-- nachumama (firstplt@hotmail.com), January 20, 2004.

PEOPLE ON THIS SITE ARE TALKING A LOT OF TRASH ABOUT OUR PRODUCTS, WHY NOT SEE WHAT WE PRODUCE FOR FREE AND DO NOT LISTEN TO THESE POST. GET OUR PRODUCT IN YOUR HANDS FOR FREE AND THAN YOU JUDGE WHETHER OR NOT TO ORDER! FREE SAMPLES FOR ALL!!! http://www.phonyid.com

We receive emails each day from customers who have sent money to other ids sites only to have the site keep their money and send nothing or to send them a piece of paper that is of very low quality which has been laminated. We keep hearing the same question from these potential customers, "I have been burned once, how can I know that phonyid.com is going to send me a high quality custom designed id?" We have even heard reports of other id sites going to extreme measures posting lies about our ids and our company in order to convince customers to order from them. It is our policy not to comment on other sites as we feel it is unprofessional, but it seems other sites feel they only way they can compete with us is to spread lies over the internet about us to discredit our amazing products. We are confident that our ids are the best out there and are willing to send an id printed by us to you at no charge. We challenge any other id site out there to do the same. We have nothing to hide and are confident that once you see our amazing ids that we will receive your order and orders from several of your friends.

If you ever hear another site saying something negative about us, ask them to put their ids where their mouths are and send you a free sample. You will hear nothing but lame excuses and reasons why they can't do it. The truth is, if they were as confident of their custom designed ids as we are, they would have no problem with it.

If you are debating about whether or not to order from us, request a free sample and than you will be able to hold in your hand one of our high quality cards and make the decision based on that. Other sites offer you grainy images on their site of ids they claim they can make. We don't show images of our ids on our site, we go a step further, we send you an id at no cost to you. The truth is most of the id sites out there do not even own id equipment and if they send anything it is something they printed on an inkjet printer and laminated.

Once you receive a free sample from us, you will see that we do own the equipment we say we own and that our custom designed templates are second to none. The sample you receive will feature a celebrity in the picture area. The name will say phonyid.com simply to prove to you the id was actually printed by us.

There is no catch. We charge no hidden fee for our free sample. All we ask is that you mail us an envelope with your name and address on it, you do NOT need to put a stamp on it. We will even pay the postage to mail the sample to you. Just write your name and address on an envelope and mail it to the address below and you will receive one of our high quality ids to hold in your hand and see what you get before you pay anything.

Please mail your self addressed envelope to:

CeTech Inc. Frejgatan 13 114 79 Stockholm Sweden

-- Phonyid.Com (FakeIDman@phonyid.com), April 27, 2003.

-- Billing department (FakeIDman@phonyid.com), January 20, 2004.


Oh boy, maybe I WILL ignore everything I've seen and give you money!

By the way, I like the e-mail address. FakeIDman and phonyid aren't connected? hahahahahahaha

-- Rob Fitz (rfitzger@mail.rochester.edu), January 20, 2004.


Hello everyone- Firstly, about a month ago I sent out my $100 to phonyid.com, and until reading all of your posts had been eagerly checking my mailbox each day to see if it had arrived. But anyhow, reading over this message board made one thing very clear. Most of you are going to great lengths and spending alot of money just so you can get a drink or socialize with your friends at the bar. All of the energy you put into trying to get a fake id ought to instead be channelled into correcting the injustice being done to everyone out there between 18 and 21. That those of us in that category should be able to live on our own, pay taxes, vote, enter into contracts, (for the men) go to war, and yet not be able to have a glass of wine at dinner is a disgusting double standard and act of discrimination. I encourage all of you to do as I have done and lobby someone. Your best chance is to go online and find out the state legislator for your district because they have a small enough constituency that they can listen to you, and not just send out a form letter. If enough people do it, we can really create some change, particularly as this is war time, and there are men dying who wouldn't be able to have a beer if they could come back.

-- Patrick (gershwinjazz@netscape.net), January 20, 2004.

Oh nevermind looks like you were right, they are connected after all I was wrong.

-- Rob Fitz (rfitzger@mail.rochester.edu), January 20, 2004.

Umm, thats weird, someone is posting as me...(the post right above this one)...I'll change my e-mail to see if they do too

-- Rob Fitz (rob.fitz@gmx.netX), January 20, 2004.

how can you say FakeIDman and phony id are not connected when a while ago you said

"www.phonyid.com; This scam site also has impressive samples. It is run by a criminal from Maryland who goes by the name "FakeIDman". We can all be thankful this site just a scam, but we should keep in mind all these sites are still dangerous."

http://www.geocities.com/stopfakeid/

-- Rob Fitz (rfitzger@mail.rochester.edu), January 20, 2004.

Exlain that huh? I bet your in on it. Your just a scammer like all the other sites. GOOD DAY rob fitz c-ya later

-- Tommy (Tommy_Gunz@KuKluxKlan.com), January 20, 2004.


Please, Just listen to me, Phony Id is a Scam. I swear to god.

-- Neil Klose (ncb@ku.net), January 20, 2004.

I know it's a scam. They all are. If anyone knows where I cna get one in person in the Chicagoland area please let me know. I want a Hawaii FAKE ID. Cuz I was born in Pacific Palisades and I always wanted a Hawaii ID.

-- Izzy (Your_vagina_smells_like_fish@oralsex.com), January 21, 2004.

uh, tommy...whats your deal? maybe if you make some kind of argument against me, I could defend myself...but you're not really saying anything solid. Are you trying to say that I run a site selling IDs? well if thats the case, I don't. I'm a college student who is LOOKING for a novelty ID. Did you ever go to the site that I linked to? Did you notice that the QUOTE (yes I used something called quotation marks) came from that webpage that I cited? Did you ALSO notice that I am not the creator of that website? It's run by a MADD support group. Oh yeah and for those of you who aren't too bright (because after seeing the last post, I realize there are a few of you out there), MADD is Mothers Against Drunk Driving. Allow me to reiterate that I am a student, not a mother.

Basically, I am getting mad sick of all the internet scams and all the fucking static that they create on these boards. I'm gonna give up in about a week or 2 if no new info comes out on any of the online companies.

-- Rob Fitz (rob.fitz@gmx.netX), January 21, 2004.


(and by previous post, I mean the one posted by tommy, not the one actually directly before this one)

-- Rob Fitz (rob.fitz@gmx.netX), January 21, 2004.

PEOPLE ON THIS SITE ARE TALKING A LOT OF TRASH ABOUT OUR PRODUCTS, WHY NOT SEE WHAT WE PRODUCE FOR FREE AND DO NOT LISTEN TO THESE POST. GET OUR PRODUCT IN YOUR HANDS FOR FREE AND THAN YOU JUDGE WHETHER OR NOT TO ORDER! FREE SAMPLES FOR ALL!!! http://www.phonyid.com We receive emails each day from customers who have sent money to other ids sites only to have the site keep their money and send nothing or to send them a piece of paper that is of very low quality which has been laminated. We keep hearing the same question from these potential customers, "I have been burned once, how can I know that phonyid.com is going to send me a high quality custom designed id?" We have even heard reports of other id sites going to extreme measures posting lies about our ids and our company in order to convince customers to order from them. It is our policy not to comment on other sites as we feel it is unprofessional, but it seems other sites feel they only way they can compete with us is to spread lies over the internet about us to discredit our amazing products. We are confident that our ids are the best out there and are willing to send an id printed by us to you at no charge. We challenge any other id site out there to do the same. We have nothing to hide and are confident that once you see our amazing ids that we will receive your order and orders from several of your friends.

If you ever hear another site saying something negative about us, ask them to put their ids where their mouths are and send you a free sample. You will hear nothing but lame excuses and reasons why they can't do it. The truth is, if they were as confident of their custom designed ids as we are, they would have no problem with it.

If you are debating about whether or not to order from us, request a free sample and than you will be able to hold in your hand one of our high quality cards and make the decision based on that. Other sites offer you grainy images on their site of ids they claim they can make. We don't show images of our ids on our site, we go a step further, we send you an id at no cost to you. The truth is most of the id sites out there do not even own id equipment and if they send anything it is something they printed on an inkjet printer and laminated.

Once you receive a free sample from us, you will see that we do own the equipment we say we own and that our custom designed templates are second to none. The sample you receive will feature a celebrity in the picture area. The name will say phonyid.com simply to prove to you the id was actually printed by us.

There is no catch. We charge no hidden fee for our free sample. All we ask is that you mail us an envelope with your name and address on it, you do NOT need to put a stamp on it. We will even pay the postage to mail the sample to you. Just write your name and address on an envelope and mail it to the address below and you will receive one of our high quality ids to hold in your hand and see what you get before you pay anything.

Please mail your self addressed envelope to:

CeTech Inc. Frejgatan 13 114 79 Stockholm Sweden

-- Phonyid.Com (RFitz@phonyid.com)

-- Billing Department (RFitz@phonyid.com), January 21, 2004.


ok... seriously now.... why order a sample to find out what we already know is shit!!!! people who have actually placed an ORDER not a SAMPLE have either gotten absolutley nothing or a very low quality piece of shit!

That much is for sure and it is non-negotiable.

Cut the shit

-- JJ (heh@uhok.com), January 21, 2004.


hahha, oh thats funny! almost.

Either way, point taken: The previous "post" for phonyid said it was from phonyid, but someone could have just done this to make him look bad. Well, whether that be the case or not, I do not appreciate being targeted by any sort of malicious intent. Just let that be known

-- Rob Fitz (rob.fitz@gmx.net), January 21, 2004.


If anyone knows where I can get one in person in the Chicagoland area please let me know. I want a Hawaii FAKE ID. Cuz I was born in Pacific Palisades and I always wanted a Hawaii ID.

-- Izzy (I Sixty9_her_24_7_365_52_weeks_a_year@oralsex.com), January 21, 2004.

You see Rob! You see! You have been impersonated on this board.... 1 Person could easily post different messages as different people. 1 ID company doesn't like phonyID for whatever reason... SO THEY BULLSHIT HERE ABOUT THEM! Send away for YOUR sample, not some shit on the net...AND THEN JUDGE!

-- Pat Garofalo (patgarofalo@hotmail.com), January 22, 2004.

yo dude, chill. I already admitted that i realized that point. I admit that I am in no true position to judge a company until I've tried their services. However, why would I want to try their service if I have read so many posts on numerous boards that claim that the IDs that were sent were not in any way genuine looking.

Now, you are telling me to send for a sample. I really don't know what good that does me. Is the sample the product I am going to order? No. So what good does it do me to see something I am not going to order before I order something I am going to order? Thats like going to an ice cream parlour and getting a sample of chocolate when you are looking to buy a gallon of orange sherbert. I understand that the samples are supposed to show the quality of the equipment that is used, and I don't doubt that the company uses high quality equipment. I am also not doubting that the IDs that are created are high quality. What I am doubting (and only based on intuition and word of mouth) is that the IDs that are created actually look like the real drivers licenses.

-- Rob Fitz (rob.fitz@gmx.netX), January 22, 2004.


I want everyone who has posted or who has read this message board to listen and listen good:

I have been veiweing this message board daily since the day it was created becuase, like eveyone on here, I want to be able to have fun at a bar or party after weeks of studying. The board has now become basically a site of attacks and defenses for the site of phony id, located in Sweden. I am going to tell you the absolute, undeniable, provable,god-knonwing truth of phony id:They are the largest and most well known scammers in the history of false identification. I have ordered from them twice, and I recived a card of such low quality that it could have been produced in ten minutes. Every single post on this board in defense of them is a lie. I know. They try to mess with our mind. For instance, when someone posed as Robfitz's email as phonyid.com, someone wrote below "you see, rob, you have been false posted. Why don't you order a sample and then judge. Well, that someone was phony id, trying to steal his money. They are clever people. They know how to hypmotize the senses. They are false.

Here is all the proof you need: on thier website, they say that they "don't discuss the details of thier products" The only reason they don't do that is because they want to be able to have an exuse for when they send you a piece of shit.

This is a legitamite post. I am not from another fake id site, trying to steal their fame, if I was, then I would advertise for it. I am telling you the absolute truth. I hope that the strength of my message speaks to all the people who will be scammed in the future.

-- William Kapell (cannotgive@aol.com), January 22, 2004.


Hey rob, where are these other messageboards that you speak of?

Please post the links here.

-- Pat Garofalo (patgarofalo@hotmail.com), January 22, 2004.


Pat, you Bastard, you work for phonyid we all know it!

-- Tom lally (tolsams@sbc.global), January 22, 2004.

www.fakeidgroup.com is a scam, and i'm sure everything on www.21overnight.com is too.

-- Barricade (kryntee@hotmail.com), January 22, 2004.

I'm talking about the boards that you find by typing in google "phonyid scam". You should find 3 or 4 at least.

-- Rob Fitz (rob.fitz@gmx.netX), January 22, 2004.

This much is for sure... no site will ever have the ability to produce accurate designs and security features for all 50 states at the drop of the hat. Phony ID claims to do this according to their "sample" page. It is no secret that this is just a bar book scan.

This much is for sure, product or no product, they are misrepresenting what they produce, so they shouldn't be trusted or supported, period. If you believe otherwise, you probably shouldn't be allowed to drink anyways.

-- John (whatev@woat.com), January 23, 2004.


Why dotn someone just go to the address the money is sent to and beat the living shit outta this fakeidman faggot cocksucker. He should get punched 100x's by every person he has ever ripped off

-- Pat Brzezisnki (I_H8_K_Mart@Kmartsucks.com), January 24, 2004.

lol... i agree with the other Pat

-- Pat Garofalo (patgarofalo@hotmail.com), January 25, 2004.

PHONYID>COM IS A SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

of all the countries on earth do you really think that SWEDEN would allow him to operate there is he was really selling fake id's????? Hell NO. They must be the most law abidding people on the planet and he sets up shop there. LOL

-- joe H (who2know2@yahoo.com), January 27, 2004.


Ordered an ID from phonyid.com on Dec. 11. Still haven't gotten shit. Wish I would have found this site sooner. Does anybody know how to send a virus? I hope their entire operation gets fucked over. Seriously, I want to send those fucks a virus or something to make up for the $100 that those fucking assholes took from me. Fuck them in their stupid asses. I will stop at nothing to destroy those fucking dicks. Any help is appreciated.

-- I hope fakeidman gets shot (lets_kill_those_swedish_bastards@fuck_sweden.com), January 29, 2004.

I can understand the virulence of your anger when you get stung for $100 or more by these online scams. But you really deserve what you get when you are trying to skirt the drinking laws in this way. You kids should either be working or in school, not wasting your parents' money on getting phony ID's.

-- J. Edgar Hoover (mc1933@hotmail.com), January 29, 2004.

I managed to get a copy of the My Doom B, Virus. I think I will send it to the webmaster @ phonyid.com. Sianara suckers!!!!! FAKEIDMAN your shit outta luck.

-- Don't Trip (XxX666_Computer_Virus_Man_666XxX@HairyPussy.com), January 31, 2004.

Doe's anyone know which sites at least sell fake diploma's that look real or social security cards and birth certificates.

-- Rorry B. Bellows (oOo_rorrim_eht_otni_kool_o0o@CalTech.com), February 01, 2004.

You are all scumbags. Some of you are clearly terrorists. I can't wait until you losers end up in jail

-- Brigadine Smith (bri241_1972@yahoo.com), February 04, 2004.

Brigadine Smith, You work for phonyid so do you Pat Garofolo. Pat back lat year you were defending phonyid saying the negative feedbacks were just other companies trying to shut down phonyid. Yeah right, the truth is these people have all been ripped off or have found out the truth. I know you are in on phonyid and you work for them. And back a few days ago you agreedf with what the other pat said about beating up fakeidman, that tells me that you think its funny cuz fakeidman probably doesn't even live in Sweden. He probably has the money sent from CeTech to his house in Maryland. And either you are fakeidman or you know who he/she is. The other thing is, that I managed to get FakeIDmans IP address. And thanks to the freedom of information act, tomarow I'm am going to get his address. cuz your IP address is registered to your computer, So I'll be able to find out who really owns the computer with FakeIDmans IP address. So you are surrounded FakeIDman. Tomarrow I will know your Name, Address, City,State,zip and The type of computer you have. And youknow what I'm not even going to call the authorities. I am going to give it out to everyone that wants it, and one day when you least expect it, I will be at your door with Metal Bat. And I may or may not be in disguise. So you never know when I'll get you. I may be a public works worker at your door or a police officer or nothing at all. Fuck You FakeIDman, I got you know and your going Belly up.

-- Aiden Masters (IIllIIllIIllIllllllllIlIlIl_BARCODE@Secret_Barcodes.com), February 04, 2004.

Thank Jehovah for this website, I would have almost been scammed.

-- Randy Noble (what_would_scooby_doo@Vice.com), February 04, 2004.

Somebody order from this site for me:

http://www.fakeid.tv/

It's similar to the Kelvar site in the lines of legitimacy only because of the first FAQ question:

FAQ #1: I don't feel safe about ordering because I am worried you might not deliver or sell me a lower quality product than what is advertised. What guarantees can you give me that you are legit? Should I contact you and ask you to convince me that you will come through?

Answer: Do not contact me asking me to make you feel safe about making an order. Read every word on this web site, all the articles, all the reviews and everything else. If you do not feel safe about ordering after doing all of that then there is nothing I can do about it and I don't want to hear about it.

I don't think a scammer would say fuck off if you don't think I'm legit.

I'm considering www.fakeid.tv or www.crew-sellers.com/kevlar and anyone's opinion of either site.

-- Joe (vegas50000@yahoo.com), February 05, 2004.


FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, every ID, website is FAKE. You need to ask the Sicilian Mafia in New York, they can hook you up with $2000 fraudulant ID package. S.S. card,Birth Certificate, Marriage Lisence, School Records, Diplomas, Vaccinations papars, Citizenship papers, Fake Drivers lisence and Death Certificates.

-- Jonathan Carmichael Triplich (Pogo_the_monkey@LibertyCity.com), February 05, 2004.

no need to bother. kevlar is real... does the other site have a message board you can post and ask questions on? Maybe it is legit, but kevlar is also legit, so no need to look futher.

-- Tony (tmart@hotmail.com), February 05, 2004.

Kevler is a scam site. Our Id's are exact replicas and you cannot tell the difference between the real and the fake. Just send in for your free sample and see how we are the best ID site on the web. There is no catch. We charge no hidden fee for our free sample. All we ask is that you mail us an envelope with your name and address on it, you do NOT need to put a stamp on it. We will even pay the postage to mail the sample to you. Just write your name and address on an envelope and mail it to the address below and you will receive one of our high quality ids to hold in your hand and see what you get before you pay anything.

Please mail your self addressed envelope to:

CeTech Inc. Frejgatan 13 114 79 Stockholm Sweden

-- Webmaster (Webmaster@Phonyid.com), February 06, 2004.


JUst testing

-- Car,em (cmravagno@juno.com), February 06, 2004.

fuck you webmaster, you're jerk off.... i sent away for a sample didnt get shit... Kevlar is the man... KEVLAR IS THE ONLY LEGIT ID SITE IVE FOUND SO FAR.... phonyID is garbage.

-- Peter A (Stacks97@aol.com), February 06, 2004.

Kevlar is for real, and there need not be much more validation than phonyid calling it a scam.

Keep on rocking in the free world

-- John (Stealth708@aol.com), February 06, 2004.


Kevler scammed me, i want my $ back

-- Oscar Franco (BaggN_DimeZ@potheads.com), February 07, 2004.

ha ha you see all id sites are ripoffs

-- Mike D (sexaholic@sex.com), February 07, 2004.

Any asshole can write anything he wants on here, like fakeidman saying whatever he wants under different names with obviously bogus email addresses. Post that on the kevlar board and see what happens.

-- John (Stealth708@aol.com), February 07, 2004.

Kevlar is real Believe me ;)

-- ? (Stealth708@kevlar.com), February 07, 2004.

Kevlar is really the only site that I think MIGHT be legit. But even if they are, I've lived in Mississippi most of my life and I have a very deep southern accent. So who is really going to believe that I lived in Michigan long enough to aquire a driver's license? Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you have to be a resident of the given state in order to aquire a driver's license? And in order to become a resident you must live in the state for at least a year? I may be wrong about this. And as you may know, Kevlar only produces Michigan DLs. So, unless you live in the midwest or north or had a northern accent(no bias intended), I don't think the Michigan DLs would work very well. Another thing, do you really want to dish out 185 dollars even for a legit looking fake id? I feel that most of the persons that post on here are only looking for a way to be able to get into bars and buy liquor. Also, Kevlar does offer discount when you order at least 5 ids. So even if you got a group of your [underage]friends to order ids as well, don't you think it's going to look odd when you all go into a bar and coincidentally you all have Michigan DLs? Perhaps. Getting fake identification is a pretty hot topic on college campuses also. So, somebody tells somebody about fake ids that look legit, and before you know it they're popping up among student all over campus. However, if anyone can think story of how I LEGALLY got a Michigan DL, considering my accent, please share it with me. I might shell out that much money if I was confident that it would work in most of the places I wanted to go. But in the end, if you do get caught with a fake, that's a felony, and that will stay with you for a while.

-- Christine Gates (drowningdoll21@yahoo.com), February 07, 2004.

well guys, good luck finding them online. I finally took everyones advice and asked around at my school. It turns out that theres this kid who makes high quality NY ids for $45 out of his dorm to other students. Looks like I don't need to put up with any of this bullshit anymore

-- Rob Fitz (rob.fitz@gmx.net), February 08, 2004.

When you go to a bar or any establishiment selling beer/liquor, there is no prerequesit for passing a northern/southern accent test. I don't know what the requirement is for the amount of time you need to live in a state to acquire a DL, but I am assuming that anyone who has grown up in the south and then moved to Michigan at any point and time is still going to have a southern accent.

Red flags usually don't go up at a bar unless the ID itself is suspect. If it looks real, feels real, and scans with your picture on it... hell, it might as well be real.

John

-- John (Stealth708@aol.com), February 08, 2004.


I ordered from KEVLAR only because he's legit and answered all my questions.

The ONLY other Fake ID site that might be legit is www.fakeid.tv as I stated before.

-- Joe (vegas50000@yahoo.com), February 09, 2004.


i ordered from kevlar about 3 months ago, and the id they sent me looked nothing like the actual state id, so its useless. i took it to a unical 76, and it didnt scan and it was taken away. what a waste.

-- james (jhawkins@hotmail.com), February 09, 2004.

I know your lying because if you ordered from Kevlar you would know its a single person, not a THEY.

Nice try

-- John (Stealth708@aol.com), February 09, 2004.


You're another asshole! Kevlar's Id look exaclty like the real michigan licenses.... in fact, the state recently added a new feature on their ID's this year (they added a smaller face photo on the right side of the card) And Kevlar has just recently updated his template to match the newer michigan ID's... so you can take that post and stick it up you ass!

-- Peter A (Stacks97@aol.com), February 10, 2004.

How can I trust Kevlar if every other site out there is fake. I dont know If I should take My chances. Plus I need an Illinois ID.

-- Rusty Shacklford (Cigarettes_R_G00d_4_U@ciggy.com), February 11, 2004.

If you absolutley need a certain state's ID I am assuming that you are looking to do more than drink underage. Under those circumstances no ID alone no matter how good will do the trick. You will need to know someone on the inside.

Not every site is a scam, but many are, just do your homework... Kevlar has an unmoderated message board for feedback. One of its kind as far as I know, or at least extremely rare in the fake id website arena.

-- John (Stealth708@aol.com), February 11, 2004.


My family and I need to get lost....like yesterday I need to find a real way to do it.....We needto work quickly time is running out..please help....If you can help me with immunization records, birth certificates, a good fake past, and records so we can go on with our life somewhere else, or advice on how to do this please please please let me know

-- sarah (isbe11girl@aol.com), February 11, 2004.

I need some paper work so i can head 2 Mexico and get lost among the people if anyone can get me mexican documents and a passport I will be extremly grateful.

-- Alejandro Terranos (6969_man@I Love Hairy pussy.com), February 11, 2004.

Yeah let's harbor some terrorists here...

-- Joe (vegas50000@yahoo.com), February 12, 2004.

I need enough documentation to eventually leave the country...I need help and quick!!!!!!

-- sarah (isbe11girl@aol.com), February 12, 2004.

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-- Antonio Botacceli (TOSGeneral@aol.com), February 12, 2004.

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-- Jupal Muhammad (Jmuhammad084@aol.com), February 13, 2004.

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-- Lenny Goldsmith (I_am_a_Real_American@CanadaSucks.com), February 13, 2004.

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-- screw phony id (phonyidsuckscock@assholes.com), February 14, 2004.

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-- screww phony id (phonyidsucksscock@assholes.com), February 14, 2004.

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-- Popeye Sevedra (La_onda@Blood In Blood Out.com), February 14, 2004.

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-- Orlando Vincent Jones (FUCK_phonyID@yahoo.com), February 17, 2004.

Well my friends I have found a way to get a new identity and disappear. It will only work in certain situations whoever. There is a lil loop hole in our great countrys justice system that allows this. There are other ways of getting a new LEGAL ID it takes some work but in the end it works.....

-- Sarah (isbellgirl@yahoo.com), February 18, 2004.

Ok, first of all I have worked in bars, the states require we check for a"valid" photo Id, if you present one that looks ok we are off the hook, you get busted or in an accident the shit falls on you not us. Most places just want to cover their asses. Do not get a fake from your state, we see the real thing all day and can spot a phoney in a second. I worked in Kansas City, if you came in with a New Mexico DL I would not know or care if it was real. Don't make it harder than it needs to be. I know a guy who used his older brothers out of state DL, the brother just went to the DMV and got a new one, said he lost his. Guy never had a problem in Bars, just dont be a dumb ass and give it to a Cop!!

-- John Trent (jtrent2@kc.rr.com), February 24, 2004.

Does anyone know where the people from counterfeitlibrary and shadowcrew hang out now? Even carderplanet seems to be gone, I thought that since it was hosted in Russia it would be OK

-- Lost Soul (sq2000@bigfoot.com), February 27, 2004.

Counterfeit library was a great resource and I am sad to see it gone... My guess is that even though it may have not been based in the US, it was illegal for them to either possess or publicly display that information on the web. Oddly enough scam site such as phony id or any other site with "samples" of all 50 states are a good place to find bar book scans to get an idea of what an out of state ID looks like.

-- John (Stealth708@aol.com), February 27, 2004.

cock-suckers from sweden ALMOST got me....almost !!!!!!!! thank God I found you ~~~

ps.BC DL req. will pay up to $150

-- who cares (retap7@hotmail.com), March 06, 2004.


I`VE GOT A BRILLIANT IDEA,HOW TO GET EVEN WITH THOSE COCK-SUCKERS FROM SWEDEN.

Let`s rat them out !!!!!!!!! This is full address to the main Police Dept. in all of Sweden,also located in Stockholm.: Rikspolisstyrelsen Box 12256 102 26 Stockholm Tfn 08-401 90 00 E-post: rikspolisstyrelsen@rps.police.se

Email, let them know they have a scum artist in their backyard.

Even though,I was not personally scamed by the phonyid cock- suckers,I`ll be the first one to snitch on them.

-- who cares (retap7@hotmail.com), March 06, 2004.


Stockholm Police Dept. HAD BEEN NOTIFIED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- who_cares (retap7@hotmail.com), March 06, 2004.

Anyone speaks swedish ???? Already got a reply !!!!! (but it looks like auto-reply)

DETTA ÄR ETT AUTOSVAR!

Ditt E-brev har inkommit till Rikspolistyrelsens E-brevlåda. Denna öppnas minst en gång per dag under helgfria måndagar-fredagar kl. 09.00-15.00. Beroende på vad ditt ärende handlar om kan det ta olika lång tid för Rikspolisstyrelsen att handlägga det och återkomma med svar.

Med vänlig hälsning Rikspolisstyrelsen Registratorskontoret

-- who_cares (retap7@hotmail.com), March 06, 2004.


last year ordered two id's from pennsylvania from phonyid.com got them back about a month later...it had picture of the liberty on it and no hologram, i could have made a better one at home. the back had a big ass message that said this is not a legal is blah blah blah....do yourself a favor and dont order from those scammers.

-- dont matter (dont matter@yousuck.com), March 09, 2004.

I wernt on vacaton to Stockholm with my girlfriend to visit her cousins in Swden, I went to the addrss to knock the shit out of fakeIDman, I had no problem walking in, I was heading towards the elevator to get to the level ce-tech is on, and i was escorted out by security, they said i needed to be witht he company or have an appointment to get in, my girl translated eveerything they said, tehy told me that if I came back they would press tresspassing charges on me and I didn't fight back cuz i dont want anymore international charges pressed on me, I have already been arrested in Canada for public intoxication. But REAL soon FAKEIDMAN is gonna get wahts coming to him.

-- Mike Divensenzo (M_Divensenzo@FlaTech.FL.edu.com), March 09, 2004.

Hola, Usds:

Me Ilamo Carlos. Vengo aqui porque queiro un carne falso para entrar en los clubs y para comprar cigarros(Tengo qunice anos).

En Decimbre, Compre un carne de Phonyid en Sweden. Pues, despues de tres mesos, ahora lo tengo. Fue Estupdio!!Es feo y no es relalidad.

Anteayer, Aprende que si quieres un carne bueno, tienes que comprar de "expage.com/goodid. Alli, ellos tienen carnes mejore de los de Phony ID!!!!

Ahora, Voy a comprar de Ellos.

Carlos

-- adf (Beethoven@chopin.com), March 12, 2004.


After looking for a novelty Id for awhile I decided to order from teh swedes. but now am prety sure im never getting anything or if iget something it will be shitty.. I did a nslookup on fakeidman.org and it traces back to sweden! so yeah like many of you I got scammed.. now kev seems like a good guy and deliveres what he promises, the only prob is that is a michigan ID. I needed a cali so i thought that fakeid.tv looks legit as well but is hong kong.. has anyone ordered from them (him)

thanks in advance: MOP

Non-authoritative answer: Name: www.fakeid.tv Address: 203.98.189.70 [whois.apnic.net node-1] Whois data copyright terms http://www.apnic.net/db/dbcopyright.html

inetnum: 203.98.189.0 - 203.98.189.127 netname: ZENTEK-HK country: HK descr: ZENTEK HK descr: SERVER AND INTERNET ACCESS FACILITIES descr: KWAI CHUNG, HONG KONG admin-c: AL235-AP admin-c: ST211-AP admin-c: AC286-AP admin-c: LL282-AP admin-c: RW110-AP admin-c: PP84-AP tech-c: AL235-AP tech-c: ST211-AP tech-c: AC286-AP tech-c: LL282-AP tech-c: RW110-AP tech-c: PP84-AP status: ASSIGNED NON-PORTABLE changed: npconwt@yahoo.co.uk 20030526 mnt-by: MAINT-HK-NEWWORLDTEL source: APNIC

person: Anthony Liang address: 17/F Chevalier Commercial Centre, address: 8 Wang Hoi Road, Kowloon Bay, address: Hong Kong country: HK phone: +852-21336890 fax-no: +852-21332175 e-mail: anthony.liang@newworldtel.com nic-hdl: AL235-AP mnt-by: MAINT-HK-NEWWORLDTEL changed: anson28@hotmail.com 20010728 source: APNIC

person: Samuel Tan address: 17/F, Chevalier Commercial Centre, address: 8 Wang Hoi Road, Kowloon Bay, address: Hong Kong country: HK phone: +852-21336894 fax-no: +852-21332175 e-mail: samuel.tan@newworldtel.com nic-hdl: ST211-AP mnt-by: MAINT-HK-NEWWORLDTEL changed: wptan@sinaman.com 20010710 source: APNIC

person: Anson Chan address: 17/F Chevalier Commercial Centre, address: 8 Wang Hoi Road, Kowloon Bay, address: Hong Kong country: HK phone: +852-21337341 fax-no: +852-21332175 e-mail: anson.chan@newworldtel.com nic-hdl: AC286-AP mnt-by: MAINT-HK-NEWWORLDTEL changed: anson28@hotmail.com 20010710 source: APNIC

person: Lawrence Luk address: 17/F, Chevalier Commercial Center, address: 8 Wang Hoi Road, Kowloon Bay, address: Hong Kong country: HK phone: +852-21337173 fax-no: +852-21332175 e-mail: lawrence.luk@newworldtel.com nic-hdl: LL282-AP mnt-by: MAINT-HK-NEWWORLDTEL changed: npco@hotmail.com 20010724 source: APNIC

person: Rayman Wong address: 17/F, Chevalier Commercial Center, address: 8 Wang Hoi Road, Kowloon Bay, address: Hong Kong country: HK phone: +852-21337955 fax-no: +852-21332175 e-mail: rayman.wong@newworldtel.com nic-hdl: RW110-AP mnt-by: MAINT-HK-NEWWORLDTEL changed: anson28@hotmail.com 20010710 source: APNIC

person: Patrick Poon address: 17/F Chevalier Commercial Center address: 8 Wang Hoi Road, Kowloon Bay country: HK phone: +852-2133 6967 fax-no: +852-2133 2175 e-mail: patrick.poon@newworldtel.com nic-hdl: PP84-AP mnt-by: MAINT-HK-NEWWORLDTEL changed: npconwt@yahoo.co.uk 20011009 source: APNIC

-- I will check the board often for replies (will@checkTHE.boardoften), March 13, 2004.


You will get what you expect from Kevlar, but under what circumstances is it imperative that you have a Cali ID... People who are 21 travel just like anyone else, and I would assume more often than not to California. Don't psyche yourself out... What is better, a decent custom designed Cali ID, or a spot on MI License? If you are worried about getting scammed from another site that has what you want, use a payment service that protects against fraud... chances are if they don't accept payment through a secure service like that, they are probably a scam anyways.

-- John (heyheyhey@hey.com), March 13, 2004.

al mojado que no sabe escribir,

vuelve at tu paiz pendejo. no te queremos en los eeuu.

-- asfd (qadfasdf@adrgs.dsf), March 20, 2004.


I might be able to help with a new identity and locate the sources needed. PS, i am not doing this for kids who want to get some drinks ;) rather more desperate people who deserve some help.

My mailbox is open for anybody interested, but expect that i ask some questions and answer honestly - if not, i am not able to create what you need or tell you how to do it.

Cheers, the profiler

-- Kim (theprofiler@operamail.com), March 22, 2004.


just testing

-- jane smith (blondieaf96@yaoo.com), March 25, 2004.

anus

-- aa (aa@asdf.com), March 25, 2004.

So what kind of payment protects against fraud?

-- Kristen Morrison (k@k.com), April 17, 2004.

PLEASE DON'T ORDER FROM PHONYID.COM!!!!!!!!! I've been waiting for 6 months for this "perfect" id to come in. Thruth is there isn't one coming. Fakeidman.org is just a load of lies. After I sent them my $100, and paid $40 for shipping, I came across this web page. Phonyid won't respond to my emails anymore and the phone number is an answering machine that they never call back. Sending cash is probably the stupidest part, but I thought that it would be quicker. Quicker for them to take my moeny. I even went back and read the agreement that I signed and turned in with my order, and it clearly says that the ids will say not a government issued id on the "product"! Funny thing is that that is the only place you will fing any mentioning of that tiny little bit of info! Silly me. Any ID would be better than my money down the drain. ITS A SCAM!!!! I've never been more helpless about a situation either. They won't answer emails, they don't answer the phone, and I even sent my cousin who skis in Stockholm to the address. He didn't make it past the elevator without being told to leave and never come back. I'm turning 21 in 3 months, and I should have waited and spent my $140 on going out on my birthday. Foolish me! Don't be taken like I was!!!!!! Don't believe me? Try to post on Fakeidman.org! Try to email anyone that has posted! Try to find dates on any of the posts! Try to find a NEW post. I've been reading that website for over a year, because I was afraid of the risks, and I should have listened to my instinct! READ THE PARAGRAPH SO CLEVERLY BELOW THE "SAMPLE" PICTURES ON THE WEBSITE! IT CLEARLY SAYS THESE ARE NOT THE IDS THEY MAKE! And the whole "we will send you a sample thing"! NEVER GONNA HAPPEN!!!! I've sent out for 3 samples just to tickle my curiosity! I even paid to have them fed-exed to stockholm! Guess what? Never got even one! NEVER GOT ANYTHING!!!! Don't waste your time!

-- Craig Jones (aphla@sbcglobal.net), April 19, 2004.

I too was close to ordering from phony because of his message board, but now seeing youfinishit.com it also looks too good to be true. I know their id's look nothing like they seem but up here in Canada :) if i order a wisconsin or anything no bouncer would know, unless they had an id book in which case why would I be at that bar anyway? Just wondering if anyone has ordered from them and if they say the company name and crap all over it or if it looks legit but not government legal( uknow wut i mean_ thanx Sean

-- Sean (fuckuphonyid@fag.com), April 20, 2004.

Also on youfinishit.com they only have state organ donor cards not drivers liscenses kinda confuses me? anyone help are they good to get into bars?

-- Sean (lalla@bla.com), April 21, 2004.

www.phatism.com is definitely legit, but they don't ship to the US.

-- Matt (no@no.com), April 22, 2004.

youfinishit.com is legit, I have a maine organ donor card from them. The reason they are "organ donor" cards is because by making them "organ donor" cards, all the information on the ID does is confirm the organ donor's information. BTW, you do not need a driver's license to get into a bar or buy beer, any state or government issued photo ID is acceptable. Just say that you got an outstanding speeding ticket and have your license suspended if they even bother to ask. I am fairly certain that what youfinishit.com does is perfectly legal. Where the illegal part comes in is when you use one of these cards to misrepresent your age or identity. Obviously that is what they are meant to be used for, but youfinishit.com requires you to sign a written legal agreement taking all liability off of them. (PS, they say you have to do this, but someone from them emailed me and told me not to worry about it after placing my order).

For $40 dollars it is an excellent ID, and all the graphics and print are just as good if not better than my real PA license. (less pixelated). The hologram is full card, and it says AUTHENTICAUTHENTICAUTHENTICAUTHENTIC top to bottom and side to side in a checkered lettering pattern (every other letter is a negative). It looks good, albiet generic, but it serves more of a purpose of getting that "rainbow" gloss over the whole card when you move it around. Much better than any generic "key" or "globe" holos.

Now for the complaints... I am fairly certain these cards do NOT scan. They have a scan strip for show, and anatomical gift info on the back which is good (nothing anywhere on the ID saying "info by signatory" or "this is not a gov" document) but I have tried to swipe it in other scanners for unlocking doors and such, and what I noticed when compared to credit cards or even my real DL, whereas an encoded card that is not meant to open a certain door will swipe as "incorrect" or "red light", the organ donor card gives no reaction as if no information was exchanged. Now this means that you can't get into high profile clubs with it, but it is pretty easy to see at the door if the bouncers are scanning or just looking at ID's. Just walk away if they are scanning.

The second complaint which is not a big deal if you send in a scan of your signature (i didn't have access to a scanner), they will put a generic signature (its on all the samples on the website) on your ID. Since it is pretty much just a generic scribble, it very well could be almost anyone's signature, and I have never had it questioned or even looked at... You kind of have to know to figure out that its not my sig. But like I said, this can be remedied and even if not, its no big deal.

For the ultimate in quality anyone who has a while until they turn 21 should get a Kevlar ID. For $40 dollars the youfinishit OD card is good, but if you can afford the $185 for a Kevlar, do it. Luckily I turn 21 in 10 days. The Kevlars are spot on duplications of a michingan DL and they scan and even have UV holograms... it is 100% legit... unmoderated message board, tons of street cred, plus I have a friend who has one, and it looks and feels every bit as good as the pictures demonstrate. Let me make it clear, what Kevlar does isn't legal, in fact it is highly illegal. Much of his clientelle do much more than buy beer or liquor with his ID's. As with any underground buisness Kevlar dissapears and reappears, occasionaly posting updates on the message boards. He is more popular than ever, which means he has to be more careful than ever, and the turnaround time has been about 2-3 months lately. That is a fairly long time, if you are willing to pay more he can speed up the process. There has been talk of him increasing price from the already hefty $185 to quell his work overload and to meet supply and demand. But if you are like 18 or 19, you can't put a price on an early 21st birthday.

-- John (why@aol.com), April 22, 2004.


P.S. The turnaround time for youfinishit.com is about 1 week which is pretty excellent.

Furthermore, none of this "your full of shit" buisness, or "every internet site is a scam", or "you probably work for them". I speak the truth, if you don't believe me, do your homework. Check the Kevlar boards... youfinishit has several secure e payment options, which they can't have if they are a phony buisness, and i'm sure if you email them with any questions prior to ordering they will be cooperative and quick with a resonse.

-- John (why@aol.com), April 22, 2004.


I emailed them and they wrote me a lil jargon about scanning bascially they say it does scan> ur saying it doesn't :P Obviously u dont work for them, or for kevlar or for any legit company a legit company gets legit reviews, bad companys dont get any real reviews, i'm done my homework and youfinishit.com is on many shopping sites and theirs no way their not legit.! thanx john

-- Sean (asffasf@saeafsa.com), April 23, 2004.

Has anyone ever heard of eden press www.edenpress.com now I never used this but I just ran across it good luck.

-- Mia Lozano (nbalanced@comcast.net), April 23, 2004.

Right... I know they say they have ANSI mag stripe encoding on the site, or whatever that means, and to be totally honest I don't know 100 percent for sure that it doesn't scan. I haven't quite worked up the courage to take it to somewhere that scans... but like I said, I did a little controlled experiment with a door scanner, which might not mean anything, but other cards that I know scan in certain things but don't open the door gave a "negative" scan, while the OD card had no affect. This might not mean anything, but I probably wont take any chances in these last few days before my 21st.

Thanks... john

-- John (why@aol.com), April 23, 2004.


But how can I be 100 percent sure that i won't be scammed?

-- samson (gary@nubio.com), April 24, 2004.

Are you fucking kidding me?

-- John (Why@aol.com), April 24, 2004.

Read all the posts before u even make a comment, search the entire net their recommened on shopping sites youfinishit.com is legit and this john guy is just a really nice guy talking about kevlar which is obviously the best but 185 bucks american for me is alot if the youfinishit.com are only 44 and they work or even if they work for a bit and get taken i can buy 4 ids for one of kevlars :)

-- Sean (sean_brown86@hotmail.com), April 25, 2004.

The more I think about it, unless you are pretty generously wealthy or under 18 years of age, at this point and time if you are for some reason thinking about getting an ID, youfinishit.com is probably the best 1st choice... Edging out Kevlar, which don't get me wrong, is everything he says he is, which is absolutely perfect.

However, to be honest at this point Kevlars actual turnaround time is potentially indefinate (upwards of 3 months), which is a whole season gone. Its not really his fault, and he is probably going to have to increase prices just to make his workload easier, not even for the money, because trust me, he is probably getting scores of orders each day at $185 a pop, but he is a one man show and his products take a long time to produce and can very easily be messed up far in the delicate process, and he has to start over again.

That being said, and taking into consideration that I don't even know 100 percent for sure if my youfinishit.com OD card doesn't scan. And the fact that if I was a potential buyer knowing that it might scan, but otherwise has decent custom designs, good hologram, and is $40 dollars, sounds like its from a larger operation, more reliable, and pretty much going to be there next week, even if it didn't scan, it would be worth it to use it until it did get taken while waiting for your Kev! The main driving reason for my recent change of heart is the fact that realizing that my little experiment could have possibly meant nothing at all, and saying that... youfinishit.com has been totally honest with everything else they say on their site, and if you even email them and question them, and they quickly respond with a resounding yes, I wouldn't expect them to lie about something that signifigant on that point. All it would take is for one persons to get scanned and not work, and then they would be fucked as far as their buisness is concerned. And as far as capability, I'm sure if they have the money for the equipment to make the product they already make, they certainly have the money for a $300 encoder that Kev has, amongst others. Therefore, there is no real reason that they don't scan is my inductive conclusioin.

-- John (why@aol.com), April 25, 2004.


Excellent conclusion, i mean it can't be worded better u pretty much sum it up just have to get around to getting a picture and a signature.

-- Sean (fsafss@afssfaas.com), April 26, 2004.

Kevlar ripped me off,i never got nothing in the mail, fuck all these internet ID sites.

-- Hemant Mooker (HMooker@CPIXEL.COM), May 05, 2004.

If you do your research on the Kevlar board, the only people who have ever ordered from kevlar and not gotten a product are the people whose are being made right now. He is pretty backed up at the moment, albiet still pumping out cards. If you cannot wait any longer, Kev can refund in full your order. Do your fucking research next time ponch.

-- T (a@b.com), May 06, 2004.

WE WILL MAIL YOU A FREE SAMPLE We receive emails each day from customers who have sent money to other ids sites only to have the site keep their money and send nothing or to send them a piece of paper that is of very low quality which has been laminated. We keep hearing the same question from these potential customers, "I have been burned once, how can I know that phonyid.com is going to send me a high quality custom designed id?" We have even heard reports of other id sites going to extreme measures posting lies about our ids and our company in order to convince customers to order from them. It is our policy not to comment on other sites as we feel it is unprofessional, but it seems other sites feel they only way they can compete with us is to spread lies over the internet about us to discredit our amazing products. We are confident that our ids are the best out there and are willing to send an id printed by us to you at no charge. We challenge any other id site out there to do the same. We have nothing to hide and are confident that once you see our amazing ids that we will receive your order and orders from several of your friends.

If you ever hear another site saying something negative about us, ask them to put their ids where their mouths are and send you a free sample. You will hear nothing but lame excuses and reasons why they can't do it. The truth is, if they were as confident of their custom designed ids as we are, they would have no problem with it.

If you are debating about whether or not to order from us, request a free sample and than you will be able to hold in your hand one of our high quality cards and make the decision based on that. Other sites offer you grainy images on their site of ids they claim they can make. We don't show images of our ids on our site, we go a step further, we send you an id at no cost to you. The truth is most of the id sites out there do not even own id equipment and if they send anything it is something they printed on an inkjet printer and laminated.

Once you receive a free sample from us, you will see that we do own the equipment we say we own and that our custom designed templates are second to none. The sample you receive will feature a celebrity in the picture area. The name will say phonyid.com simply to prove to you the id was actually printed by us.

There is no catch. We charge no hidden fee for our free sample. All we ask is that you mail us an envelope with your name and address on it, you do NOT need to put a stamp on it. We will even pay the postage to mail the sample to you. Just write your name and address on an envelope and mail it to the address below and you will receive one of our high quality ids to hold in your hand and see what you get before you pay anything.

Please mail your self addressed envelope to:

CeTech Inc. Frejgatan 13 114 79 Stockholm Sweden

-- Phony-ID (webmaster@phony-id.com), May 7, 2004.

-- WebMaster (FakeIDman@phonyid.com), May 07, 2004.


Still on your futile quest to scam pennyless minors from underage drinking bliss?

There's no digging yourself out of the hole you've made for yourself now. Go to hell phony-ID.

-- John (why@aol.com), May 07, 2004.


Anyone know what's up with Kevlar lately? I've been having problems trying to get onto his site--little bit worried!

-- k (k@s.com), May 08, 2004.

never mind--got it under control

-- k (k@s.com), May 08, 2004.

Good Sites (Belvine) Youfinishit .That's It

-- jake fucking blake bitch (jakeblake@hotmail.com), May 09, 2004.

Anyone know where to find Kevlar...the website is down. Please contact if you do.

-- faith (qtpie0654@aol.com), May 12, 2004.

Does anyone know of anyone in the NOrth Dakota-Minnesota region who makes IDs?

-- under 21 (klvang@hotmail.com), June 05, 2004.

PhonyID rules, thanks for my awsome id, i recommend it to anyone

-- Trev Lebanski (This_is_life@puzzle.org), June 20, 2004.

thanks for the tip jackass

-- chip (uh@no.com), June 26, 2004.

Fuck You trev you gayass piece of shit!!!!!!!!!!

-- maura Dvani (smeltpf@hoa.glog), July 09, 2004.

carderplanet and shadowcrew have been down for awhile... does anyone know why and when they'll be back???

-- roy rogers (rrogers@chicken.com), July 12, 2004.

all sites go down eventually, because they are scams. the sites that go down change their names and get as much money as they can until they get shut down again...and the cycle continues on.

-- my full name (shitfaceddemon@aol.com), August 02, 2004.

If by now you have not figured out that there are in fact a select few sites that are not scams, you either have not looked hard enough or have a learning disability.

-- hrum (eatadick@cock.cum), August 13, 2004.

Now why in the hell are you guys making it harder then it is???? Anyone can get a new ID it's fairly simple...Especially with a few documents that are very easy to come by. I really don't understand it all....In your state it's as easy as going to your social security office a couple times....And the DMV, and almost forgot, alot of time on your computer..Any questions??? I don't answer questions from children trying to get an ID to drink. If your an adult looking for real answers to real questions...Let's talk, however I am going to be asking alot of questions about, what whom where why, and again why. Please type in the subject line ID help so I know that it's not a spam email.

-- Sarah (isbellgirl@yahoo.com), August 14, 2004.

The issue is clearly underage drinking here. And you wanting to know who, what, where, why, etc... I don't think anyone in the position you speak of should trust anyone but themselves with that information. For all they know you could be a government official.

You may think that underagers getting into bars is laughable, but look at it this way... there is nothing they can do about being underage. Someone who puts themself into the position of literally needing a new identity, well, that situation is preventable to say the least.

-- yeah oh yeah (youwish@nevergonnaget.it), August 14, 2004.


shadowcrew.com is no down it go down when it dosed but always come back and there many poeple make good ids and they dont allow scamers. to sell id you must proove real id or no. sorry for bad english.

-- common sense (common@sense.com), September 09, 2004.

The reason that I ask alot of questions is because I do not provide this information to criminals, terrorists, etc. However I will provide this information to people that are living in a violent situation with a partner, and some other situations. I don't help underage children drink, in fact it is because of alochol that my aunt died, so why would I want to contribute to a problem that has already caused me so much pain. I really didn't appreciate being named as a government informant. As a matter of fact I am far from it. I am a stay at home mom who had to do legally change my name SSN# etc. And now I am willing to help others in similiar situations. You really should of thought before you wrote because most common since would of told you to email me to find out why I am willing to hand out the information for free.

-- Sarah (isbellgirl@yahoo.com), September 11, 2004.

Check out this site: http://www.youfinishit.com/shopfactory/index.html? target=dept_4.html&lang=en-us

-- none (none@none.com), September 12, 2004.

i would like to know how to get a legit ID the hard way. i dont want to 'buy' somthing off the internet they all sound like scams anyway. i heard once that if you could get ahold of a death cirtificate and a SSN you could get a birth cirtificate and with some fake mail aquire a library card and then be ble to get a photo ID from my county court house, can anybody verify this information i am also aware that this is a very old method and may not work anymore. if anyone can help me that would be awesome thanks

-- Freddy Banks (leaveansweronboard@idontwanttogetspam.com), September 12, 2004.

The system that you are describing above was good in the 80's and early 90's before the internet. The only way really to do it and not get caught is to do it the hard way.I am doing more research as far as other ways to get an ID so new information is comming soon.

-- Sarah (isbellgirl@yahoo.com), September 14, 2004.

I know where to get ny ids in ny i would be willing to trade fro some info on some boards i need a suplier of a few different states to refer ppl to so hit me up where i can get a good non ny id adn i can tell you where you can get a good ny dl

-- GaLupo (galupo@gmail.com), September 19, 2004.

Have you guys tried American-Novelty.com? I heard they were pretty good, but before I order I want to know if anyone else has tried their cards. They take credit cards and are in the us so they seem on the level, but I'm not sure. Any suggestions?

-- Katie Cerns (katiec1982@hotmail.com), September 20, 2004.

WE WILL MAIL YOU A FREE SAMPLE We receive emails each day from customers who have sent money to other ids sites only to have the site keep their money and send nothing or to send them a piece of paper that is of very low quality which has been laminated. We keep hearing the same question from these potential customers, "I have been burned once, how can I know that phonyid.com is going to send me a high quality custom designed id?" We have even heard reports of other id sites going to extreme measures posting lies about our ids and our company in order to convince customers to order from them. It is our policy not to comment on other sites as we feel it is unprofessional, but it seems other sites feel they only way they can compete with us is to spread lies over the internet about us to discredit our amazing products. We are confident that our ids are the best out there and are willing to send an id printed by us to you at no charge. We challenge any other id site out there to do the same. We have nothing to hide and are confident that once you see our amazing ids that we will receive your order and orders from several of your friends.

If you ever hear another site saying something negative about us, ask them to put their ids where their mouths are and send you a free sample. You will hear nothing but lame excuses and reasons why they can't do it. The truth is, if they were as confident of their custom designed ids as we are, they would have no problem with it.

If you are debating about whether or not to order from us, request a free sample and than you will be able to hold in your hand one of our high quality cards and make the decision based on that. Other sites offer you grainy images on their site of ids they claim they can make. We don't show images of our ids on our site, we go a step further, we send you an id at no cost to you. The truth is most of the id sites out there do not even own id equipment and if they send anything it is something they printed on an inkjet printer and laminated.

Once you receive a free sample from us, you will see that we do own the equipment we say we own and that our custom designed templates are second to none. The sample you receive will feature a celebrity in the picture area. The name will say phonyid.com simply to prove to you the id was actually printed by us.

There is no catch. We charge no hidden fee for our free sample. All we ask is that you mail us an envelope with your name and address on it, you do NOT need to put a stamp on it. We will even pay the postage to mail the sample to you. Just write your name and address on an envelope and mail it to the address below and you will receive one of our high quality ids to hold in your hand and see what you get before you pay anything.

Please mail your self addressed envelope to:

CeTech Inc. Frejgatan 13 114 79 Stockholm Sweden

-- Phony-ID (webmaster@phony-id.com), March 25, 2003.

-- FakeIdMan (webmaster@phony-id.com), October 03, 2004.


Have none of you learned by now that the only way that you can get a GOOD new identity, is to either do the proper research or you are the victim of domestic vioence. Nothing in life is easy and if you think that you can get a good idea through mail order you have got another thing comming. Alot of people don't realize that people that post that they have ID's ready to go out are actually other peoples lost identities. So eventually it will catch up with you.

-- Sarah (isbellgirl@yahoo.com), October 05, 2004.

Go to www.fakeidnow.com I found a vermont id that was pretty good and it is scannable for 120. The only problem was that the id didn't say drivers license on it. good luck

I want to get another id so can anyone tell me whether they bought an id from American Novelty and whether the disclaimer can come off and if it says driver's license?

-- Steve (Spw52355235@yahoo.com), February 09, 2005.


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