People, give me your best job searching advice tips here. I thought I would stroll down here and bag one up pretty quick. It's been a month. I've had one interview. Hmph. I mean, what's the problem? I's a gud ritur, y'all.

We've set up housekeeping. We've found a good pizza place. All of that is done.

Being a Lady of Leisure is not all it's cracked up to be. Help!

-- Anonymous, August 01, 2001

Answers

I'm asking purely out of curiosity mind you. I have no advice. What field are you looking for?

-- Anonymous, August 01, 2001

Publications/ communicatioins/ marketing/ PR/ etc.

I have a degree in journalism which is woefully underused because of all my experience on the corporate side.

Right now, I sort of don't care if I have to write brochures for a widget company, I'd just like a job.

-- Anonymous, August 01, 2001

I, too, would like a job. Al, you can just pass me all your rejects.

-- Anonymous, August 01, 2001

Have you looked at this site: http://www.twc.state.tx.us/jobs/jobx/express.html

If you are in the Dallas area there's: http://texas.preferredjobs.com/altsearch/search.asp

Or in Austin: http://www.austinjobads.com/

This beets doing my my job. If'n I knew where you were I could more efficiently stalk you search for you.

-- Anonymous, August 01, 2001

AB is in Dallas. I am in Atlanta. If you find me a job, you can stalk me for free.

-- Anonymous, August 01, 2001

Atlanta has a ton of regional offices of film studios. Off the top of my head I know Buena Vista and Paramount have offices. Poke around for info on the local offices.

-- Anonymous, August 01, 2001

Hi, I'm Lily and I live nowhere near Texas but I wish I did because I have cool friends but you guys are cooler. I'm an AB groupie (AB, did you know you had a groupie?) and depend on Lin Chao for advice in pressing situations. I have no particular wisdom in the job-search area but a slightly amusing story on the subject. I came to Cape Cod looking for a summer job but since it was mid-season already, everything was taken. I looked into 20-25 stores/restaurants within bike-riding distance but the only person hiring was my grandma at her antique shop. I was hoping I wouldn't have to settle for that because she only needs me a couple hours a week and it's so boring I have to cry every time I watch the shop for her. But anyway, she was going to her friend's antique shop, 50 yards away from her own, just to visit, and I went along for the ride. Well, turns out this lady needed tons of help with her shop so Wah-La I was hired. The irony of that made me go "Heh." So, I guess the moral of the story is don't forget to look next door. Anyway, okay. Rock on, AB.

-- Anonymous, August 01, 2001

If anyone finds me a job, you can stalk me for free AND I will buy you a cute new outfit.

-- Anonymous, August 01, 2001

Aw, Lily. (wiping away tears...)

I'm a rock star! An unemployed rock star!

-- Anonymous, August 01, 2001

Al, I could direct you to my former place of employment, but . . .

Actually, that's not that bad an idea. They're very flexible on internships, which would give you non-corporate credits. And they're also always looking for cheap freelancers.

It just wasn't the right place for me, that's all.

Cartoon Network was, at one point, developing a magazine; I don't know if that's still the case now that it's AOL-Time Warner.

-- Anonymous, August 01, 2001

Al, do you know lots of people in Atlanta? Do your parents know lots of people there? Because if so, I recommend that you make a list of all the people you know, and then call them and tell them that you're looking for work. Organize a little spiel before hand -- just a couple of sentences about your hopes, dreams, & fears will do -- deliver it, and hope that at least one or two of those people will say, "As a matter of fact, I'm hiring/I know someone who's looking for an employee just like you/You should call so-and-so." It has definitely worked for me in the past. It got me a job that I wound up hating passionately, but the hateful job became my inspiration to apply to grad school, and now I'm happy with how I spend the bulk of my waking hours.

Another thing you might do is contact your college or university's alumni/ae office and ask for a list of graduates in Atlanta & environs who are in the lines of work you want to be in & who have indicated that they wouldn't mind spending a little bit of mentor time with a fellow alumna.

Good luck! AB, those recommendations go for you, too! I know you say in your bio that your college was un-fabulous, but there may well be some very fabulous alumni/ae in your area. You're there, right? It can't be all bad in the Metroplex.

-- Anonymous, August 01, 2001

Oh my god!

Am I still the T in MATH=1? Or am I too much a Super-Deluxe Lady of Leisure to hang out here? Is it because I didn't have an internet connection for more than a week?

-- Anonymous, August 02, 2001

Travis, I would just like to sing your praises for those links. I found two more jobs to apply for with them.

Praises! Thanks.

-- Anonymous, August 02, 2001

Al, check out the Technical Writing section at http://www.computerjobs.com

No, really. It's not all hi-tech. They started in Atlanta and still have a butt-load of job listings from there. And a good friend of mine has been their web-designer since those days (what? This isn't the name-dropping thread?).

-- Anonymous, August 02, 2001

http://talentmarket.monster.com

Some of it is freelance, some is long-term contract, some on-site, some off-site (so it wouldn't matter where you were). Anyway, I'm seeing some content producer and marketing communications listings on there, and I'm just searching things like "web" and "internet", so there's probably a lot more on there if you're actually looking for writing jobs.

-- Anonymous, August 03, 2001

Actually, I think I'm going to find my ownself some freelancing jobs through Monster Talent.

-- Anonymous, August 06, 2001

Well. I had another interview this morning. With Emory's Biz School. It was fancy. Good interview. Lasted an hour. Was impressive. Guy said "I'm interviewing a lot of people and then there will be a second- round process that I'll need to bring you in for." I wanted to say "That's fine. I hate you," but I didn't.

We'll see.

-- Anonymous, August 13, 2001

I got picked up once by a Goizueta student at Woodruff Library. It led to a Really Bad Date, during which I learned that no matter how much alcohol I have, a man whose idea of serious reading is Red Storm Rising is not going to keep my attention.

Hopefully, Al, you will have better karma.

-- Anonymous, August 13, 2001

I have got to get a job, like, this week.

I've emailed a lot of old co-workers from various jobs, I've whored myself out to my college - I'm at a loss. I was happy to be jobless a week ago. Now, I am on fire with my job-hunting.

And what led me to this epiphany? A gorgeous wooden cutting board. It was on sale at the Williams Sonoma. They were asking nothing - nothing! - for it. Alas, my unemployed self could not justify buying the beautiful maple cuting board. Because I don't have a job.

Seriously, my standards are lower than they were a month ago. I just want SOMETHING. I mean, if I can't get a job at my COLLEGE, I just suck, is all.

-- Anonymous, August 13, 2001

I can't believe I haven't found anything yet. I've been on two interviews where I have performed to my utmost and ... nothing. A lady called me yesterday about a badass job that she would like to interview me for in - wait for it - TWO WEEKS. That's the END of August.

Maybe by that time, I will have picked up a few bucks singing on the street corner, and Chris won't kick me out of the apartment.

-- Anonymous, August 16, 2001

Al, you may have applied for a job at the company I would've gone to work for had RCW not come through. I had an interview in mid- September, and was still waiting for the followup interview in late October, when I re-interviewed with RCW. They clearly didn't have the budget to start me before January 1, but rather than just come out and say so, the person who was going to hire me (an editor I'd worked with at Local Monthly) just kept taking forever to respond to my emails. Very professional, that.

-- Anonymous, August 16, 2001

Y'all, I have an interview this coming Thursday for a job that I'm perfect for. I hope karma is flowing my way, because if not, I may need to be Allison's backup singer.

-- Anonymous, August 17, 2001

Well, I have one Monday with a placement agency.

Ugh.

T, being a back-up singer is hard. I was AB's for a year, and it is a tough job

-- Anonymous, August 17, 2001

But you can be my backup. I'll call you Sweet-Pea.

-- Anonymous, August 17, 2001

Baby, that's all I need. I can even wear a shower cap, if it's raining.

I've thought about placement agencies, actually. If nothing pans out by the end of the month, I definitely will, as that's when the cash will run out.

-- Anonymous, August 17, 2001

Y'all. I gots me a job. I tell you, every time I make a student loan payment, I'll be forever thankful that I went to a college with a really, really good alum network.

-- Anonymous, August 24, 2001

YAY, T! Lady of Leisure no more.

Al, it's just me and you, baby.

-- Anonymous, August 24, 2001

I am job hunting now - any advice for someone whose only discernable skills are the ability to hold her whiskey and her awesome accessorizing powers?

-- Anonymous, August 26, 2001

Kristin, I think the only job that would capitalize on your whiskey and accessorizing powers is assistant to Courtney Love.

-- Anonymous, August 26, 2001

I think if there were such a job, AB would have it already as she is the most qualified.

-- Anonymous, August 26, 2001

Nah ... someone married to Vince Chao of Hardlucy wouldn't be caught working for Courtney Freakin' Love.

Which isn't to say that I wouldn't be interested, if Courtney's hiring.

-- Anonymous, August 26, 2001

After I inadvertantly bid for another position on campus Friday, I decided that must mean I'm on the market. The funding for my job is pretty much running dry, and you have to have a PhD to pump gas in this town, so I'm starting my stress countdown. Hopefully, because I'm already in the university system, I'll have a leg up. I'm willing to put both up if someone will pay me enough to make both rent and a car payment.

I may be serving shmuffins by spring.

-- Anonymous, August 26, 2001

I would love to be Courtney Love's assistant. I can just see it - she would be down on the dirty floor of her dressing room, sobbing, and I would be all, "Baby, I can't score you the smack. I love you, baby, and I can't let you kill yourself by degrees like this." She would be screaming at me to get out, I was fired, but I wouldn't go - I would stay and hold her hair while she puked, and in the end, she would go on the Daily Show and talk about how I was the one that saved her life while I sat in the green room back stage, playing liar's poker Steve Carrall and Nancy Walls and telling them what a putrid beast of a woman Courtney really was.

I am applying to work for Oprah today.

-- Anonymous, August 27, 2001

I GOT A JOB!

-- Anonymous, October 01, 2001

Yay yay! Go Al!

-- Anonymous, October 01, 2001

Al, tell us all about it...is it what you were looking for?

-- Anonymous, October 02, 2001

ME TOO! Whee! It's a good day for MATH + 1!

-- Anonymous, October 02, 2001

We are awesome. The ladies of MATH are ladies of leisure no more.

Suddenly... I'm sad... wait! No I'm not!

My new job is with a non-profit health agency here in ATL as their marketing/ communnications manager. Fine with me! The place is cool, I'll be helping people, I'll have benefits and I'll be getting piznaid.

Sweet!

-- Anonymous, October 02, 2001

Another division of RCW just got shut down completely. Granted, it wasn't big, but that's obviously not a good sign. So let's keep this thread around just in case I fall prey to dotcomitis.

And, though it goes without saying, I'm proud of you ladies.

-- Anonymous, October 02, 2001

...as their marketing/ communnications manager...

Communnications, huh? Sounds like you're perfect for the job!

Just kidding, Al.

-- Anonymous, October 02, 2001

HAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

Yep. I get my money's worth from my "edumacation."

-- Anonymous, October 02, 2001

I got a rejection email today from a job I accidentally applied for on campus. Whee!

Who can be sad when Al and AB got new jobs? Surely the wave of goodness will travel northeasterly soon.

-- Anonymous, October 02, 2001

Bumping this up to continue the job-findin' vibes for Robyn and PG, and now for my boy, who is right now still employed -- just not getting paid. To the tune of four digits' worth of not getting paid.

Employers who don't ever pay their employees? Hate. But that's for another thread.

-- Anonymous, October 17, 2001

(Damn. I just deleted my response.)

Anyway, bumping this up for ME.

Has anyone ever had any luck with Monster or HotJobs? Because I'm starting to think employers put cool sounding blurbs up there as gags.

-- Anonymous, February 28, 2002

Monster and HotJobs, no. But I got my current job through mediabistro.com.

-- Anonymous, February 28, 2002

No luck for me with Monster or Hot Jobs, either.

But look for websites of companies you want to work for, because they always have an About Us section, and those usually have online listings of what they're currently needing. And, if you scour the site enough, sometimes you can figure out the right contact person and mail a resume directly to them. I really think most emailed resumes are ignored.

-- Anonymous, February 28, 2002

Monster got me a ton of headhunters, which then landed me a job, last time I was looking. But that was in a very different job market.

-- Anonymous, February 28, 2002

I don't know whether to share here or in pleased as punch, but whatevah -- I got an interview today! Whoo! Naturally, the call came as I was sitting down to pee. Sadly, it's not a position at any of the cool Deep South universities I've applied to, but it looks very interesting, coordinating reference, instruction, and electronic information services at three campuses of two community college networks in Northwest Vermont. At the very least, it'll be good experience to *have* an interview, which I haven't done in three years. Plus, a weekend in Burlington, VT and fun road trippage w/Marcus!

-- Anonymous, February 28, 2002

I found my current job at monster.com, but they told me when they interviewed me that they had requested to have the position removed from the web site a month ago. It was only through Monster's negligence that I happened to see the job, bless their little unresponsive hearts.

It overwhelmingly seems to be the domain of headhunters, though, at least in my field. And I think they are the worst offenders of exaggeration.

-- Anonymous, February 28, 2002

Did you follow up with them after you emailed them your resume or something?

Is it even worth it posting my resume? Because damn do they have a lot of forms to fill out.

-- Anonymous, February 28, 2002

I sent them my resume through email with a cover letter that said I'd be calling them in the next week for an interview. They sent me a questionnaire, and after I sent that back to them they called me for an interview. The wanted the posting removed, but they were still responding to inquiries about the job. I don't know.

If you post your resume, I think you should be ready to field some phone calls from headhunters and temp agencies and places like that. Also, monster is not having the best reputation for responding quickly if you want your resume removed. You might lose control of your information once you post it up there.

-- Anonymous, February 28, 2002

I have a new question for this job thread - I'm hoping to change jobs but I'm in a bit of an awkward situation. I work for a very small office (12 of us) and I double as the receptionist most of the day (yuck) so it's pretty much impossible for me to schedule and go to interviews without everyone knowing about it. I don't want to rub it in their faces that I'm looking for a new job, so how can I be subtle about what I'm doing? I'm also nervous that if they know I'm actively looking for a new job they may decide to lay me off before I go on my own (two people were laid off earlier this month already - stupid recession). While my aim IS to leave this job, I would like to get a full paycheck until I find something new, not the piddling unemployment insurance I'll get if I'm laid off, and I can't afford to quit and live off my savings right now. All suggestions welcome!

-- Anonymous, March 25, 2002

Can you quit and afford to not live off your savings? Because that's the boat I'm in. Wheeee!

While the Atlanta Journal-Constitution has a million job listings, none of them are for me. Networking is my friend. (Hint hint.)

Kay - I'd use those sick days up, doll. What if you suddenly have to go to the dentist a lot?

-- Anonymous, March 25, 2002

Dentist appointments can cover for a lot. So can home emergencies. Develop a plumbing problem, so you must be home while the workmen are there. The workmen will turn out to be not-so-great and will have to return to repair their own damage at least once or twice.

-- Anonymous, March 26, 2002

Develop a plumbing problem, so you must be home while the workmen are there. The workmen will turn out to be not-so-great and will have to return to repair their own damage at least once or twice.

That would work, seeing as that actually happened for real a few months ago. And the steam radiator still spits water three or four feet straight up when I use it. Amuses the cat to no end.

-- Anonymous, March 26, 2002

bumping this up to say -

Remember how I was asking about ways to interview while still working? Not a problem any more, I just got laid off. Stupid economy.

-- Anonymous, April 18, 2002

Kay! So sorry. Welcome to the Land of No Job.

Y'all are still keeping an eye out for me, right?

-- Anonymous, April 18, 2002

Me, too. Although I do have a 3 week temp job.

-- Anonymous, April 18, 2002

Could we create our own company and hire each other? ;)

-- Anonymous, April 19, 2002

If you've got technical skills, you could try the Government's first virtual IT job fair, which is accepting applications until the 26th. The questionaire is extensive, and it takes some time, and the servers slow, but at least it feels like you're doing something.

And a government job would rock.

-- Anonymous, April 23, 2002

As a government worker (on the County level, not State or Federal), I am here to tell you that the pay sucks out loud. But, the medical benefits rock as well as the pension plan. Best of all, you get the day off for every freakin' holiday but Arbor Day.

-- Anonymous, April 23, 2002

There's a list of the pay rates on that site. And yes, they do suck. But I'd rather have days off than more money, anyhow. Well, to a point.

I just took the tests for the GS-9/11/12/13 positions. I figured they'd be easy, because, well, I know my shit when it comes to computers. But my brain hurts now.

-- Anonymous, April 23, 2002

Trust me, I am not here for the pay.

The path that led me here started at a relatively decent paying job in which I worked 60+ hours a week, worked every day of the year minus the mandated 6 Federal holidays, and had one week of vacation after 7 years of service. I swam toward the light...found my government job, which led me to the path of 11-12 paid holidays a year, 15 vacation days to start, 6 personal days, and unlimited comp time. I took a $12K cut in pay but, shit, I only work 35 hours a week now! Government work has been very, very good to me.

-- Anonymous, April 23, 2002

Y'all, I have been rejected for five jobs in the last 10 days. Ouch. I interviewed for one of them (U of SC, oh, it would have been great -- a perfect mix of reference, instruction, and collection development, AND! a hotbed of book history research, to boot. Heaven!), and they claimed to love me, and said very sweetly that they would have hired me were it not for someone who was already a part-timer at their library, and who had three years of experience. Now, I'm gratified to have been #2 behind someone with all that experience, but this was an entry level position. How am I supposed to get my dainty size 10 in the door if they're giving no-experience-necessary librarian jobs to people who have worked at the Library of Congress?

I'm looking for moral support more than anything else. Tell your stories of rejection and purge your feelings of crap in the swanky, booze-soaked comfort of the MATHlete Lounge.

For the record, my list of rejections is as follows: U/AL-Birmingham, U/TN-Knoxville, U/MD-Baltimore County, U/DE, and U/SC-Columbia. Bastards. (Note to anyone from the aforementioned universities: Kidding! I love you! Hire me!)

-- Anonymous, May 30, 2002

Sophie - I'm sorry to hear that. But at least you've had interviews. I've been in Atlanta for almost two months, without one single interview. Not one.

-- Anonymous, May 30, 2002

Aw, man. Me too. My latest bout of unemployment has been a month...and I was unemployed all last summer, too. I just about broke down and cried when a classmate of mine (who is, of course, employed) mentioned airily the other day that, "oh, now you're going to be competing with the people who are graduating this year, too!" Ah. Yes. Thanks.

-- Anonymous, May 30, 2002

H, that sucks so bad. I feel your pain, really. I started sending out applications in January, had a nibble in February, and then: nothing, until two weeks ago. I'm hoping (and keeping all appendages crossed) that the recent rash of rejections will have an April Showers Bring May Flowers kind of effect, eventually, and that come July, I will be up to my ears in interviews.

What's your field? You were a copywriter in OH, yes? Are you looking for jobs in that area, or are you looking to revamp your career altogether? I've been trying to think if I know anyone at all in Atlanta, but I don't. I'll be going to a shmooze-athon of a wedding this weekend, though, so I'll keep my ears & eyes open.

Here's a question for you job-seekers: where do you stand on the old "It's not what you know, but who you know" chestnut? Meaning, when do you call in your personal & professional cavalry? Because I was thinking that I have to do this all myself, but now I'm thinking that that's crazytalk, and I should lose the shame and use what few connections I have in the crazy, high-powered world of academic librarianship.

-- Anonymous, May 30, 2002

Sophie, be glad you were turned down by the University of Md/Baltimore County...abbreviation UMBC...translation here in Baltimore County (where I live)...U Must Be Crazy.

Actually, U of Md is a fine school but I was just trying to make you laugh.

-- Anonymous, May 31, 2002

Sophie, mayn, I'm sorry to hear about you getting turned down by UAB. They are stupid. Birmingham is awesome, though, so it's a shame. However, it just means that you have something better than all those places in store for you.

And H, you know I was here for 5 months before I got a job. And when I finally got one, I had to take a pay cut. Wait tables, girl. You'll meet a bunch of people and always have cash on hand.

(And you can give us free food. So, make it somewhere good.)

-- Anonymous, May 31, 2002

Oh, I AM going to get a job waiting tables. June was my deadline. What day is tomorrow? Oh yes. June 1.

Sophie, definitely use EVERY connection you have. That's what I've been doing, and while it hasn't born any fruit yet I'm confident I'm going to find something through someone I know.

And yes, I'm looking to do copywriting here, whether for an agency or in-house like I was before. And yes, I'm almost certain I'll have to take a pay cut. Stupid Atlanta and its stupid higher cost of living!

-- Anonymous, May 31, 2002

Oh, thanks, y'all. I appreciate it. I still have a raft of applications pending at other schools, and am going send out a bunch more over the next two weeks. On the bright side, I'm currently earning $15/hour CAD (less than $10/hr USD), so a paycut is well nigh impossible, once I actually DO get a job. Also on the bright side, Toronto is full of lovely people who will take you out for numerous beers on a weeknight to ease the pain of bitter rejection, whenever the need arises.

-- Anonymous, May 31, 2002

Sophie, in case you are interested, here is the Baltimore County Library Employment opportunity page: http://www.bcplonline.org/jobads/

Even though these are not libraries in an adademic or university setting, Baltimore County has one of the largest public library systems in the United States. The public library branch in Towson (near where I live) has a circulation of over 1,000,000.

Hey, it's a start!

-- Anonymous, May 31, 2002

The Philadelphia Free Library is hiring librarians and a children's librarian. Last I checked, anyway. Yeah, I don't love Philadelphia either, but it might pay actual money. And I only don't love it because I've lived here for way too long.

-- Anonymous, June 01, 2002

Thanks for the tips, Dawn & Jessa! I saw the FLP jobs posted last week, but I was unaware of the Baltimore gigs. That's so considerate of you. By the way, Jessa, I totally love Philadelphia, and am eager to return, at some point. All this year, I was thinking that I'd move to another new city for a few years, but that may not work out. I worry a little bit about how healthy the FLP is, organizationally speaking, but I am applying for both the children's and adult/young adult positions. Thanks, again!

-- Anonymous, June 01, 2002

I'm going to be out of work again by the end of this month. Most likely in the next two weeks after they run out of work here. I'm trying to work slow, but my fellow clerk wants out of here by the time her kids get out of school, so she's speedy. Sigh.

I don't WANNA be out of work again! Waaah! California unemployment is literally peanuts! Plus having the long-distance boy sure sucks up the money I had saved before this, plus my health insurance went way up during this time. I really need another job by the end of this month. So feeling unenthusiastic about applying for all this secretarial stuff, though. I got two degrees for what? And I have no experience so they don't want me anyway. Gah.

-- Anonymous, June 04, 2002

H -- call my Nonsmoker. No, really. He knows to expect you, and he applied at some godawful number of restaurants before he got his current jobs, so he knows who's hiring and who's not.

-- Anonymous, June 04, 2002

Update: So I sent a little e-mail, complete w/resume & cover letter attachments, to the HR department at the Free Library of Philadelphia on Friday, around lunchtime. I checked my e-mail again a few hours later, and they said they wanted to "test" me for a position. I'll do the test (apparently, a pre-interview oral exam on how you deal with the public) when I go home for a week early next month! Rock.

Still keeping my fingers crossed for all my fellow jobseekers, of course.

-- Anonymous, June 10, 2002

My first paycheck for 2 weeks of messengering was so ridiculously small. It made me cry a lot, and hate myself. Is there anyway to land a job when you need money yesterday and also can't stop crying and look horrible since you are avoiding your landlord and are therefore stuck in your boyfriend's tee shirts and three day old pants??

-- Anonymous, June 10, 2002

H - I don't know. All I know is that I'm still unemployed.

But at least I now have a really good tan.

-- Anonymous, June 10, 2002

Hannah, if you weren't already so sad, I'd suggest hooking. I'm considering it myself - Work Study hasn't paid me in THREE WEEKS. The functional equivalent of being unemployed. Man cannot live by stewed tomatoes and rice pilaf alone.

-- Anonymous, June 10, 2002

What's sad is I thought, hmm, hooking. Then instead of sitting here crying because my boss won't advance me the $320 I need to not get evicted I could earn it tonight, and then instead of worrying even if the amount he winds up being able to advance me plus the $135 I get from my other job tomorrow equals $320 I still won't possibly be able to make rent again on July 1 because I can't find a third job to save my life, I'd work a couple more nights and be set.

Then, of course, I remembered that hooking doesn't actually mean sitting around in a bubble bath like Julia Roberts in Pretty Women.

-- Anonymous, June 11, 2002

Well, and there's the drugs. And the pimps (just typed pimples - those too...from the drugs, ya know). And the cops. You can get 11- 23 months in Philadelphia for prostitution. If you look out my window right now, you can see two transvestite hookers, a crazy hooker, and someone pulling a guy into the parking garage. At least I'd be in good company. :)

Hannah, if you could have any job, what would it be? There has to be something that pays more than messengering.

-- Anonymous, June 11, 2002

Hannah, do they have payroll advance places near you? Because even though they exploit the working poor, at least you'd have the money to make it through the month.

-- Anonymous, June 11, 2002