Dear Friends, I want to thank Doreen, for encourageing me, I am a baptist, and if some one was to say amen out loud in the church, everyone would turn and look. But I have a real feeling about what was said by these people on the American Freedom News. Rick wiles was a market director for paul and Jan on the TBN show.So I give him some credit A couple from Arkansas, Rich and Randy,{husband and wife} she had a dream, the Lord told her Judgement was comeing to America in the form of Famines, disease"s Pestilences, and all Gods children, should really prepare, that starting in 1997 , we would just have 4 good years, and then everything would start, which is this year. A pastor in a little church in Arkansas, who did not know these people, had a visit by a angel in a dream, telling him that famine, and disease, and pestilences were comeing, Two days Later this couple Rich and Randy, were told to go to this church, and they got up in the front of the congregation and told about there dream. the church is in springdale,a small church, and was later told by the pastor of his dream to confirm what they had said. they went on to talk about the west nile virus,that is starting to spread across the country,Yesterday they said something about anthrax germ warfare, in this country, I will add that the wheat crop is threaten by the wheat bunt disease, the Drought, The water supply is really in short supply, I hope I explained this well, If someone else heard this program please add what you got out of it, I really am interested in your slant on this. God Bless Irene

-- Irene texas (tkorsborn@cs.com), August 09, 2001

Answers

Yes, that's a good summation. The Pastor had asked for confirmation of the dream, and two days later these folks came into the church and gave it. Two or more witnesses?

There were a few dreams, though. Not just that one. The first one she had was about anthrax, and the four good years, then several warning dreams telling them to wake up the Church from the slumber it is in and to pray for America. Also, I recall both she and the pastor were told that these judgements would occur before the rapture because the Church in America wasn't praying for the nation.

The husband went to speak with several pastors about these prophecies and actually had one guy fall asleep on him. If you know any prophecy study at all that's pretty simple to comprehend.

It was very powerful, and the call is first to the Church... Wake up and PRAY for your nation, and to unbelievers as always, Acts 4:12. Thanks, Irene for doing your part!

-- Doreen (bisquit@here.com), August 10, 2001.

What do we think about this in light of recent events, folks?

-- (bisquit@here.com), September 20, 2001.

Romans 8 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

I don't believe the Church will be judged. It is the world who will be judged.

Little Bit Farm

-- Little bit farm (littleBit@compworldnet.com), September 21, 2001.

Here is a link about TBN. http://www.letusreason.org/Pent37.htm

-- Little bit farm (littleBit@compworldnet.com), September 21, 2001.

What about "judgement begins with the house of the Lord", and all of the calls to the church (organism not organization) to not fall away, afflictions, etc., etc.? This isn't the final "Judgement", nor condemnation, it's a message. God says he chastens those He loves.......no one likes to be disciplined, but it's necessary.

No one can say that the church in this country is alive and well and steeped in the word, strong in the Lord. Just look at it overall....name it claim it, celebrating Halloween, selling bricks for $1000, not taking care of the poor, and the needy, glorifying pastors above the Lord, selling Bibles for $60 or more, having interfaith prayer (I'm sure this seems like a fine idea to those who aren't saved, but *I* cannot pray to gods), becoming corporations for profit under the "tax shelter" of being non profit....and on and on. God sees this and He doesn't like it according to his word.

Sorry, I didn't go to the TBN link. The host said he had repented of being invovled in the broadcast group there, and I have never seen it anyway...and I am short on time!!!!;}

-- Doreen (bisquit@here.com), September 21, 2001.

I second Doreen about all the scriptures that make it clear that judgement begins with *God's people* and then goes on to the rest of the world. I haven't yet seen any sign that this nation is actually going to repent and turn back to God, so can only conclude that we are in for a lot more trouble.

I hadn't heard the comments by Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, am not fans of theirs anyway, but there was something interesting in an editorial in our paper yesterday. (This is one of the few conservative dailies left in the nation, by the way.) The author of the editorial gave a little synopsis of what the two men had said; they seemed to be (rightly) blaming the disaster on the sins of our nation. Then they apologized later, because people were upset about what they'd said (obviously they care more about public opinion than about God's opinion, which tells you a lot about their spiritual condition), but the writer commented that for what they'd said, they would forever have the total contempt of the American people. So, for speaking the truth in the first place, they are held in contempt by our nation. Which tells you a whole lot about the spiritual condition of our nation, and I don't see any sign that very many people are changing. Pride and arrogance still reign supreme in the land of the free.

-- Kathleen Sanderson (stonycft@worldpath.net), September 21, 2001.

When will the body of Christ, the true church, realize that it is "called out" of the world systems. The true church, the true body of Christ is NOT an artificial entity such as the 501-c(3) not-for- profit corporation. It cannot use Romans chapter 13 as an excuse to submit to a godless, pagan government which falsely identifies it with a "government number" the same way as it identifies occultic, satanic organizations. I thank Rick Wiles for standing on the sure foundation of the true Gospel of Jesus Christ and coming out of TBN.

-- M. Trust (mydastrust@hotmail.com), March 11, 2002.

I have e~mailed Rick Wiles a few time's and I truly believe that he is a "messenger" sent to us from God Our Father. Surely he is a man of great courage inspired by God and he seem's to have NO fear of anyone and the consequenses of the broadcast's he transmitt's on WWCR everyday. Thank God for WWCR!! Thank God for Rick Wiles.. A man of God and some one that all of us should take as an example of how a true believer should be.. Bold, Courages, and fearless.. after all, "they" can kill your body, but YOU shall live FOREVER if you TRULY believe in JESUS CHRIST as your saviour.. that HE IS WHO HE SAY'S HE IS!!

-- John (john_mack48446@yahoo.com), March 14, 2002.

...Who will go and work in my fields today?

Went to the link at greenspun... lot's of stuff to read.... passed it by as there is too much "work" and "needs to be met" to spend all afternoon debate'n and read'n.

Don't debate my opinion... get to work.

Sir Over Worked

-- Sir Over Worked (wwwish@aol.com), July 02, 2002.

Oh... here is one I'll debate... briefly...

Why do you need to go to a building or person or book to find out what the future will hold? Just ask God... Remember it is a personal relationship:)

Why do I bother here.... `cause I know he won't steer you wrong in lue of a profit.

Sir Over Worked

-- Sir Over Worked (wwwish@aol.com), July 02, 2002.

FRUSTRATION

Cursing about the crusades, ranting and raving. Craving for a safe haven, praying to a Heaven, broken by nine eleven. The strongest faith, tumbled like the rubble. This country I believe, is in serious trouble. Oh well who cares, What can you do. ALONE- Not I, not me, nothing; and that’s nothing new. and ALONE- niether can you. _______________________________________________________

INDIAN SPIRIT

Weathered skin as thick as leather. Eyes filled with wise.

Knowledge kept like a guarded treasure. Within his soul, lies a broken heaven.

Confused, angry, hurt, and tired. His flesh rests, and finally expires.

His spirit runs free, through the breeze. Out there somewhere, he runs with the key, of what will be, in 2003.

_____________________________________________________ Earths perfect circle harbors a destructive cycle.

Tee pees to towers from abusive human powers.

From the lake as a bath, to cities with a pavement path.

Where only birds could fly there’s now jets in the sky.

Now even our vast outer space isn’t safe from our human race.

So what next, can’t God protect.

Maybe heaven we’ll invade; on the battle field of a religious crusade.

Growing curiosity of a little boy what upcoming will you destroy??? _____________________________________________________________

-- Kristina Mason (jimmorrison05@yahoo.com), February 03, 2003.

20 years ago I wrote a song called " Sitting on a time bomb " which lyrics included the crumbling of The World Trade Center ( Twin Towers ) to a pile of rubble.

I will no longer write songs with negative lyrics again .

-- Steve (un@h.com), February 03, 2003.

Friday, April 4th 2003

Thank you Jesus for your leading and presence. I heard you say to me today LORD, “How far are you willing to go?” How far are you willing to expose Satan? In your life! In your lives the deception is decieving those who say they’re not decieved. The ones who need this warning are my very own children. The ones striving to be my bride are the ones that need the warning. The unbeliever’s are already lost. Who will help them find there way back to me if my own body are decieved. If it’s not in me, it’s not of my Father. My word can teach you many deep things. How far do you want to go with it? Do not be decieved by the New Age, fantasy, seducing spirit’s GOD GETS ALL THE GLORY! I’M JUST GOING AFTER SATAN AND NO RELIGIOUS SPIRIT IS GOING TO STOP ME! PRAISE HIS NAME FOREVER!!!

Sincerely, James

-- James (WarriorJamesRay@hotmail.com), April 05, 2003.

..."Judgement was comeing to America in the form of Famines, disease"s Pestilences, and all Gods children, should really prepare, that starting in 1997 , we would just have 4 good years, and then everything would start, which is this year (2001)"

So I guess this is a false prophecy?

-- R.U. Kiddingme (positivekitty@netzero.com), April 19, 2003.