I no it sounds funny but its not we have 7 dogs; 1 is unrelated 1 is the father of 5 one year old dogs. One of the male 'puppies' chews the fur off his father ( they are Golden Retrievers, except for the unrelated he's a Lhasa Apso). Then he licks his ears, (and being in Minnesota and going outside in -10 weather w/ wet ears isn't good) moans and wimpersand starts to lick his father's mouth out then Jake, the father, wimpers and moans then licks his ears and then begins to hump him,(the 'puppy'). ANd then when you seperate them from each other they become normal (if there is such a thing). HELP !!!

-- Chandler in Minnesota (Providencefarms2001@yahoo.com), February 12, 2002

Answers

Not to worry, he isn't gay. This is how dogs act out thier dominance. The father is just letting the puppy know he is the boss dog.

-- Karen (mountains_mama2@hotmail.com), February 12, 2002.

Chandler,

Sounds to me that the only hope your puppy has is to be sent to, Gay Bob's Home For Gay Pets! There he will be allowed to maintain his sexual perference in the company of other gay animals. There he will not have to be subjected to riducule by his non-gay friends and family members. You will not find Gay Bob's Home For Gay Pets in the phone book as it is only from the imagination of those silly creators of South Park!

But, seriously, I do not think you have anything to worry about. It is normal for animals to be affectionate to each other, even when they are the same sex. Usually, there will be confrontations between them when it gets too intimate.

Sincerely,

Ernest

-- http://communities.msn.com/livingoffthelandintheozarks (espresso42@hotmail.com), February 12, 2002.

Don't worry: The Father one is your Alpha dog, and he is showing he is the boss, the strange thing here is the Alpha dog should be you or one of the human living in the house, no Alpha dog among dog should be allow, in a house group. Try to become the Alpha dog yourself and the behaviour will be corrected, it seems to me that the older dog is the boss, and even among the humans in the house. You should correct this because you want to be the boss not them. Consistance is the word in the way you should do it, growl to the father dog once in a while, when he is resting push him and take his place lay down on his spot. When you are going to feed them serve the food in their plates but you start eating in your plate and until you finish dont put the plates with their food to their level. If they growl to you growl back, don't bark or scream, among dogs barking and screaming is not agressive, but growling is, when you finally become the "Alpha dog" all other behavior will be corrected. Even reproduction. Do you know that my brother had 4 basset hounds, and the male and one of the females, were reproducing on yearly basis the other female, well they never got even pregnant, for 3 years until the Alpha female died. Good luck becoming the ALpha dog in you pack. But I will tell you, it's no easy. And don't spank they. They will be scare of you but they won't respect you. CIAO Ralph.

-- Ralph (rroces1@yahoo.com), February 12, 2002.

We had a couple of unneutered male llamas a couple years ago, and the older one used to jump up on the younger one until he laid down, and he would stay there for hours sometimes. It was kind of wierd, but we figured it was just a dominance thing.:)

-- Rebekah, CN (rebekah_swinden@hotmail.com), February 12, 2002.

Get a product called Bitter Apple. Spray it in the puppy's mouth so he gets a full experience of the bad taste then spray it on the dad's ears. He'll never lick them again.

-- Dee (gdgtur@goes.com), February 12, 2002.

Thanx, but I don't think its a dominance thing Because as it turns out the females are by far the most dominate.

-- Chandler in Minnesota (Providencefarms2001@yahoo.com), February 12, 2002.

Yes Chandler, it is a dominance thing. Males (and some females) show it by mounting, humping, peeing, biting the back of the neck, females may do these things but more often stand over a subordinate with a foot or two on the other dogs back, or by presenting the genitals to the other dogs face.

-- Thumper/inOKC (slrldr@yahoo.com), February 12, 2002.

We take gay dogs here at the sanctuary. ;p

-- Shannon at Grateful Acres Animal Sanctuary (gratacres@aol.com), February 12, 2002.

I thought it was Gay *Al* on South Park? But, "Thanks for asking...."

-- sheepish (WA) (the_original_sheepish@hotmail.com), February 13, 2002.

What is really interesting is that puppys will often lick the mouths of adult dogs hoping to get them to regurgitate some dinner for them. The rest of the behavior is dominance. What they are doing is normal. Not all physical behaiors are related to sex. Look up the radio show "Calling All Pets" on Public Radio. You will learn alot from them.

-- Anne (Healthytouch101@wildmail.com), February 13, 2002.

Ralph, I have to disagree somewhat. Yes, the owner should be the dominant one in the "pack" and there are ways like that to acheive this, however there is rank all the way through the pack and they still have to jockey for those positions as the pups come 'of age'.

-- Novina in ND (homespun@stellarnet.com), February 13, 2002.

Sounds like that's what the author was afraid of ... "jockying for position".

-- Mike in Pa (smfine@yahoo.com), February 13, 2002.

I think the most help here would be the suggestion to get a good book on dogs. That will explain a lot. They are fun to read also and will explain other things about your dogs that you should know. It is nice for the dogs if the owner has some knowledge about the species they are caring for and a lot more fun for the owner. LQ

-- Little Quacker (carouselxing@juno.com), February 13, 2002.

Here is a discussion group for Hunting-Retrievers. They will be able to help you answer some of your questions about your specific dog.

http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/hunting-retriever.html

-- westbrook (westbrook_farms@yahoo.com), February 13, 2002.

Just don't let them see any Cheech and Chong vedio's of where they are acting out dog scenes.

-- r.h. in okla. (rhays@sstelco.com), February 13, 2002.

when we bought our farm in VA several yrs ago we found a stray dog nearby, hubby said that must be someones dog, i said, looking like a skeleton? NOT! I felt so bad for him, he was so sweet, looking like he really wanted to come to us, but afraid. So I go over to him and he growls a little. I said, Hmmmmm maybe hubby best get him. he goes over and the pup went to him. On the way home he was so starved that when we got him into the car he ate the cheese and peanut butter crackers. he really fell in love with hubby and they became best buddies. I tried to figure out a name for him, and nothing stuck so we named him, "pup-Pup"

Pup Pup is such a sweet dog, he gets a little nutty, but hes OK. Gun shy, guess that why he wa sa stray, you can run deer in VA with dogs, so being gun shy he probably was left to die.

now what we didn't know was this dog had a identity crisis for real! No joke! We discovered it one night when i got home from work late. I had stopped to get groceries and was walking to the porch, I saw a very dainty and pretty female hunting dog with a collar on with the owners name and ph #. So Now hubby had called the owner about 1/2 hr earlier. The owner was on the way. So anyways, the dog somehow followed me into the house. I had my hands full so i couldn't stop her. Pup was in the house and when hubby tried to stop him, the other dog came inside. I didn't think too much more. Went to change my clothes. While i was in the bedroom changing I heard hubby and our son go, "Oh my, they are stuck, on the count of 3 lets pull them apart. Hubby didn't think the owner would appreciate his dog being stuck. They count and pull. next thing I know I hear them saying it stinks like poop. I finished an dcame out for the kitchen, both dogs were out. So then hubby was looking her it and said, "ITS a male!"

-- Bernice (geminigoats@yahoo.com), February 13, 2002.

These are just comments: Yes in a pack there is always a strugle to get a better position, in the pack, of course if you get a better position you eat better, and your chances for protection and repoduction are better. Completly agreed on that. Now all animals in groups have some kind of behavior. That we human call homosexual. For them is all power and authority. The baboons, its very common that a young male offer itself to the Alpha male, after all ITs better been rape than kill. You can find this behaviour describe in any animal behaviour book. We human do things different frist because I don't care what some people think we are not animals. And second, because we know better. Dogs in the pack create all these attachments and rejection behaviour, the lost dog that your found in a ditch, must have some trauma-behaviour , their pack (who ever that was) abandon him, this is absolutly terrible for an animal so sociable like the dog. That mean many things for him, like he worth nothing and he was abandon, also abandonmet from the pack was probably a sentence to death. Wolves and Horses, abandon their members like a ponisment because these members failed to do some of their function for the pack or group, find food, protection etc. Remember when you take a dog into your house you are no taking a semi-human being, you are taking a wild thing and you are responsible to rechape this being in something most time quasi-human, your family becomes a pack and the dog know who is in control at home, like he likes to jump on Junior's bed but he never would do it in Dad's bed. That dog knows who is the ALpha and I advise all you guys, you must be the Alpha for you dog, if not you are in deep SHEEP. Bye Ralph.

-- Ralph (rroces1@yahoo.com), February 14, 2002.