I read some time ago where a Catholic seer(saint) had forseen the future of the United States, Europe and the Catholic Church.

The prophesy states that United States will not be destroyed, but will be a super power, economically the country will be weak.

European countries will unite and form a big European Union. It will be one country with one government.

The Catholic Church will relaxs its cannonical laws for the clery. Priests will have options to marry and carry on their priestly functions or observe their celibacy and function. Lay vocations will increase. (Some thing positive)

Does any one knows any thing about this Seer / Saint? How far it is true ? Your comments are invited.

God Bless

-- Xavier (xavier_david24@yahoo.com), May 21, 2002

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-- @ (.....@....), May 21, 2002.

NOPE It is as far as I can see just what it is. Pure bunk from a condemned source. Nicodemus of France. The Church has condemned his writings a long time ago. It falls in a category that was condemned by St Paul in Scripture of the Greeks who we mixing their Christian beliefs and old pagan religions.

-- Fred Bishop (FCB@heartland.com), May 21, 2002.

Fred,

Thanks for your post. Do you know any website that has the writings of Nicodemus ?

God Bless

-- Xavier (xavier_david24@yahoo.com), May 22, 2002.

No, I do not know of any. I have read parts of his book and found the facts to be at best to incredible to believe and furthermore it has been revealed by others that it is too easy to misinterpret his writings as the translation from the French or Latin he used is too easily twisted to mean other things. He wrote in prose and in strong generalities that can be twisted to fit into many things that have happened in real life. I have determined that the reading of this book of prose to be too dangerous and lethal to the human mind. That is why the Church has banned his writings and has for many decades.

Blessings.

-- Fred Bishop (FCB@heartland.com), May 22, 2002.

Fred,

Thank you Sir for your info.

God Bless

Xavier

-- Xavier (xavier_david24@yahoo.com), May 22, 2002.

OOPS

I am speaking of NOSTRADAMUS ----NOT Nicodemus of the Bible. Sorry about the mixup.

-- Fred Bishop (FCB@heartland.com), May 22, 2002.

There is a vision that George Washington supposedly had at Valley Forge and also he was baptised by a friend, a Jesuit priest, on his death bed. Anyone wanting the document in MS Word 97, I would be glad to send it to. Just email me. I believe that Nostradamus did have some spiritual abilities but he misused them when he went with the Kaballa and the best thing to happen to him was he received the last rites at his deathbed.

God Bless; Bill

-- Bill Richer (wjpbr@aol.com), October 11, 2002.

Hey Bill; My mother told me about the George Washington vision, or prophecy, when I was a kid. I've been told it can be found in the Library of Congress, but I have never checked; I have a little booklet laying around here somewhere about it.

Someone told me recently, though, that it was their opinion that it was more masonic in nature (the vision) than anything Christian. I'm not sure what the argument for that position was. Also, some claim Washington becoming a Catholic is true, others say a fraud. Can you shed any light on any of this? Thanks.

-- Emerald (emerald1@cox.net), October 12, 2002.

Regarding Nostradamus, I had heard for years that his works were tainted and the interest in them by New Age followers seemed to taint them even more, however I came across the website of a faithful Catholic who, while not under the influence of visions directly has obviously been inspired to translate and interpret Nostradamus' quatrains dealing with the times we are in now and for the next few generations. Here is the URL: http://nostradamus.freehomepages.com/. I have read through this and the openess in which he offers this information (he provides the words he translated) and the simple straitforward manner in which he leaves us the information causes me to think Nostradamus may have been truly insprired when writing the quatrains that accompanied his visions. The information Xavier mentions above does not sound so off. The European Union is not unbelieveable and the Church relaxing its laws on celibacy seems to be all too possible a route it may go in light of the pressure from deluded groups who in looking at the scandal of clergy abuse think that allowing priests to marry will solve the problem. How will marrying a loving woman solve the tendency of the small number of clergy who have perpetrated the scandal. It is one based on the choice of some clergy choosing homsexuality. Do supporters of married clergy hope that allowing heterosexual marriage will lessen the troubles? How?!!! I urge all interested in such thoughts to seek out this work on Nostradamus. It has opened my mind to the thought that this Catholic visionary may be providing us with as true an insight into these days as any other of the Catholic seers out there wh

-- Blaine Scott (musicman@csolve.net), October 13, 2002.

Jmj

Hello, Blaine.

I urge you to steer clear of Nostradamus [real name: Michel de Notredame] and his crud.

You called him a "Catholic visionary," but he was hardly that. The good old Catholic Encyclopedia does not even have an entry for him. He is barely mentioned in two articles, though:
(1) Imposters
(2) Astrology -- because he was a court astrologer (a mortal sin against the First Commandment).

Please don't play with fire. You may get burned.

God bless you.
John

-- J. F. Gecik (jfgecik@hotmail.com), October 20, 2002.

Hi John: Is astrology a mortal sin? Or do you mean necromancy?

Thanks

Gail

-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), October 20, 2002.

Hi, Gail.

Here is what the new Catechism says (with my emphasis added):
2116. "All forms of divination are to be rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely supposed to 'unveil' the future. [Cf. Deut 18:10; Jer 29:8.] Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone."

When I mentioned "mortal sin" in the earlier post, I was referring to Nostradamus's activity as "court astrologer." That would be a seriously wrong act.
I have heard/read Catholic moralists say/write that a person glancing at a horoscope just for laughs is not even committing a venial sin, but a person who regularly consults horoscopes in order to try to know the future is doing something seriously offensive to God and thus is (objectively speaking) committing a moral sin.

God bless you.
John

-- (jfgecik@hotmail.com), October 23, 2002.