His email:

Hi! Why are people talking about j-s coming in flesh? Where in the old testament does it mention ANYTHING about him? how did he become Yahweh's son? No man can die for our sins that is why we have the day of atonement. and what was he to do in King Ahaz times? Please help me out here. David will be the COMING Messiah... Why have people got this so confused????Ah

My first reply:

I am quite curious as to how you got my email address. Its obvious you are a Jew. No I do not mean that in a racist type of way. However we both know that Jews rejected Jesus. I could so you numerous Old Testament scriptures identifying him. However it would not get through to you. You could in turn try to convince me that he is not Messiah, but you would not get anywhere. Do you really want to argue over the internet? Personally I think its silly. I will pray for you, I in turn hope you do the same for me. God bless.

His followup:

Hi! I came in peace seeking some knowledge. And maybe a exchange of information. I was reading something off your page(your address was there I thought to write you) that sounded different from my teachings. No I am not a jew because there is no such race as Jews. We are all really just plain old human-being or the short cut is "DUST", whichever one prefer. I am "hebrew Israelite" as Abraham, Issac and Jacob, my ancestors. And no I am not rejecting anyone! I just accept my heritage. Yahweh is my creator (G-d of Israel) and I try to obey the laws that was given to Moses as I was told and read. You misunderstand me before you even speak to me. I am not the creator, I am not here to CONVINCE you or anyone of anything. I am already convinced that David is my coming messiah because Yah said so, period. I do not argure with HIS word. It is not only silly, it is ignorant like most people are when it comes to the creator. And thanks but I really do not want people that is of another faith or religion to pray for me because we obviuosly pray to different g-ds. Excuse me for trying to learn from you or share. And would your g-d like you to hurt others feelings? Have a blessed day. AH.

My closing:

You have proven my thoughts exactly. We obviously see things differently there was no need for you to talk down to me. However, you did. Does you God promote that? I would think that your God is a God of peace. You however did not come to me in a peaceful manner. You will not be able to email me after this you are blocked. If you try to email me in other means I will notify your ISP for harrassment. Have a blessed day. If you haven't already I hope you find peace.

Any thoughts?

-- Rico (94SupraTT@cox.net), May 08, 2003

Answers

This is not a very well-educated person.
He will not spell out the word, "God" or even "god," but he spells out the sacred name of God, "Yahweh" ("I am"), something an observant Jew would never do.


-- J. F. Gecik (jfgecik@hotmail.com), May 08, 2003.

"different Gods"!!!!!

you both say that.

surely some mistake.

-- Ian (ib@vertifgo.com), May 08, 2003.

PS "both" = (1) Rico and (2) the Jew

-- Ian (ib@vertifgo.com), May 08, 2003.

Ian,

I am not saying that we worship a different God. He stated that. I then went off of that. Its just clear that he does not believe Jesus Christ is God. However he does believe God the Father is God.

-- Rico (94supratt@cox.net), May 08, 2003.

Rico, understood. God's love.

-- Ian (ib@vertifgo.com), May 08, 2003.

Reading this as a newcomer to this forum I have to say that you both sound equally agressive/defensive about your beliefs and equally unwilling to listen to others or explain your beliefs. I would be interested in seeing your website that he got you email address from, in order to see what prompted him to write you.

Since you are posting on this forum I imagine that you discuss religion often and probably have been through the same arguements over and over and could probably see the "futility" of discussing with this person right off the bat....so I am not criticizing not wanting to "get into it" with the guy. I am a newbie to the whole thing and facintated by the subject of religion and different peoples beleifs so I would have been much more interested in seeing the exchange that you guys would have generated rather than this. Can you post your website address?

-- mg (blahginger@yahoo.com), May 12, 2003.