-- (csisherwood@hotmail.com), June 21, 2003.
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This isn't a question, but to say 'hi' to all, how faithful you are John, Paul, Gail, Eugene,Skoob, it's good to 'hear' you.Jacob {Huether, my son} got married last month. It was a glorious wedding. The church is old and has all the saints there, and they presented our Lady with flowers. The Mass was beautiful and powerful as always,the music anointed, and God's love flowed amongst the people.
We are so blessed, blessed to be a part of God's plan. Part of Jesus' Church. He truly has provided for us, with all we need. Sometimes, in a quiet moment with the Lord, my heart is just full of gratitude, it's hard to take it all in, isn't it? How He provides for us to live victorious lives. He has truly robbed the devil of his power over us. We can go to confession and Communion and be set free.. all in a matter of hours!!! He's there with new joy and fervor every morning, he is the one who keeps our marriages together with His humility and forgiveness. He is the one who lavishes His mercy on us, for it isn't about us, it's all about Him, and His grace and mercy. He is the one who empowers us so our words speak freedom and healing, and break shackles off peoples' backs! oh hallelujah!
So I guess this is a word of encouragement, you fight the good fight, you do it in the Name of Jesus,you may not see the fruit of your work, but you do it for Him, and He finishes it. His word will never come back void. You guys are doing a good job!
I was telling Gail I just don't seem to have the hours I did before for the forum, and Jake's gone over to phatmass, glory to God.. he's growing in the Lord and God is blessing him and his new wife, Erika. But I cherish the memories of Jake and me siting here at the computer preparing arguments,researching and pondering.It was a great bonding and growing period. We'd be sitting in his bedroom late at night talking about 'holding hands at the our Father', {John!!!}, and we'd be up early laughing about how we thought of some new way of looking at something through the night to share.We grieved over Fred's death together. My husband, a faithful strong Catholic Christian never could understand it when we'd call you each by name as if we knew you so personally. But we did, didn't we!
So, my dear brothers and sisters, I pray for you, would you pray for us! Peace of Jesus!! Theresa
-- Theresa Huether (Rodntee4Jesus@aol.com), June 20, 2003
Oh Ms. Theresa, I have missed your sweet words so much! I ever so grateful to know you. You are such a dear. I am so glad to hear of Jake's blessed wedding. Do you have pictures? We would love to see them.Thank you for your words of encouragement. We need them. And we need you. I hope you plan on posting again. There's too much testosterone around here! (No offense guys!)
Pax Christi,
Gail
-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), June 20, 2003.
Hi ladies :-)."It was a great bonding and growing period."
It really was a special time Theresa, full of chrachters and a variety of Catholics we were a diverse group.
Theresa congratulations to Jake and his new wife.What a blessing.I too would like to thank you all for your help with me in rediscovering truth. I certainly was not an easy person to deal with at times, special thanks to Chris Butler who was an inspiration.
I have however never really been on the same level as many of you in regard to the place of the authority of the church in our moral decisions. It is something I have spent many many months reading on and believe I have informed my conscience.The forum continues the fight for legalism and the rule of law, a blind faith which I cannot in good conscience accept. I feel such a negative approach to the world around me and of others was not Christian in the sense I believe in. I was turning into a pharisee, I look back at some of my posts and cringe, yuk.
Without wanting to distance myself too much from my brothers and sisters in Christ here, I reject some elements of Church teaching of natural law as being badly in need of change given developments in understanding of science, medicine, philosophy and theology. Yet the Graceo Roman understanding of the the world around them and mankind of two thousand years ago is still the basis for many of our moral teachings.
Reading through some of the responses to genuine questions can we really believe that God who so loved the world as to give us his only Son actually deals with us in these terms? Is this what Jesus would have wanted? Does God have no regard for our quality of life and only cares about the salvation of our soul? etc etc
Rest assured I will always be fighting in the corner for our Church although from a different angle than most of you.
Love and only love and all that.
Peace and Love
-- Kiwi (csisherwood@hotmail.com), June 20, 2003.
Kiwi, I was just getting ready to post a thread "Where the heck is Kiwi," but now you've popped in! You must have read my mind. I miss you very much, Kiwi. I hope you're not going to abandon us here, are you? It sounds like you and Ms. Theresa are going to take a sabbatical. Did I miss something? Did you write an "exit post" or something?Love to all,
Gail
-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), June 20, 2003.
Columbia-3, New Zealand-1Sorry Kiwi... :-(
God bless!
-- ??? (?@?.?), June 20, 2003.
Kiwi:"I reject some elements of Church teaching of natural law as being badly in need of change given developments in understanding of science, medicine, philosophy and theology."
This is a very simple problem to fix.
For starters, become a Platonist and read the works of St. Augustine. I find that when approaching these difficult questions, that banging my head a few times against a brick wall puts me into the proper disposition. This may or may not work for you. =)
Point being, get the modern world out of your head when you approach the things that are eternal and of the essence; it will blind you.
-- Emerald (emerald1@cox.net), June 20, 2003.
Hi Gail, no I could never leave you guys,Ill always be lurking around, thanks for thinking of me though. You, Theresa and Mary Lu have always been so thoughtful. To be honest I think I was a bit depressed or something over the past year and I turned to the forum for interaction. Life is far too short to spend all my spare hours on the internet, and besides its just not healthy: spiritually, emotionally or physiacally to do so IMHO. Everything in moderation! God BlessHi Emerald
I trust you and your family are well bud. While not well versed I am certainly aware of the basic tennets of Platonists and St Augstine. To me its not a case of rejecting modern philosophy and science as irrelevant to the truth as they draw on the truths of such ancient thinking while also drawing on 2000 years of human wisdom in dissmissing the obvious problems and limitiations with such an approach. You talk of blindness but to me only a blind person could not see the faults in AUgustines thoughts. While acknowling the huge debt we owe to him, (to me his highly positive evaluation of the human heart especially) we need to read his thoughts in the context of a man from an ancient world. A man whose mind and culture were shaped by the literature and philosophy of Greece and Rome. Back to bashing my head against a brick wall! Ill get there eventually...God Bless :-)
Finally ??????, Im guessing Atila! Seeing as he is the only South American contributor who springs to mind. Yes we lost to Japan 3- 0 as well. :-) Luckily no one cares about soccer in this part of the world, bunch of big girls blouses, the lot of them!. Joking but bring on the rugby world cup. Go the All Blacks!
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-- Kiwi (csisherwood@hotmail.com), June 21, 2003.
-- (csisherwood@hotmail.com), June 21, 2003.