I recently attended an Anglican Catholic Church. The church was very small and the church describes itself as a traditional Anglican Church.

The mass was the Tridentine mass but said in the venacular (English).

It was interesting.

God bless

-- john placette (jplacette@catholic.org), October 29, 2003

Answers

It would be close to the Traditional Latin Mass, but if you listen closely you will hear that the eight prayers that explicitly mention SACRAFICE were removed by Luther for his "mass". †

-- Jeff (jmajoris@optonline.net), October 29, 2003.

There is an "Anglican usage" of the Roman Catholic Church...mostly comprised of disgruntled Anglicans/Episcopalians who came home to the one true Church. These are Roman Catholic. There are several in Texas, from what I've heard. I don't know what you attended, though...I'd ask the pastor if they accept the Pope as the head of their Church, and who his local bishop is. (ie is it the Catholic Bishop or an Episcopalian one.)

-- Christina (introibo2000@nospam.com), October 29, 2003.

Sorry, one of my links was wrong (AAC rather than ACC...). I'll try again.

The Anglican Catholic Church is a group that split off from the Episcopal Church, USA, the split centering over, if I have it correct, the issue of the ordination of women. It is a separate organization, so its Bishop would be neither Catholic nor Episcopal, but rather AAC.

-- Lurker (lurekr@mailinator.com), October 30, 2003.

You got it, Mr. Chavez. Soapy Sales plagiarized that post. It was the last paragraph of an article in an SSPX-style rag called the "Seattle Catholic" (sic).

-- (Eugene@Is.Smart), November 01, 2003.

Hey Mr. Zapper, the truth hurts, right?

-- (9999.@444.com), November 02, 2003.

All this is very interesting - have any of you seen this new publisher that has published the Douay Rheims Bible - older than the KJV? - Baronius Press.

-- ed spencer (ed_spencer2003@yahoo.co.uk), November 04, 2003.

Did V2 Liberals prevail? Yes. Father Henrici, S.J., an advocate of the New Theology said that de Lubac's theology "which insists on the non-opposition between nat- ure and supernature...BECAME THE OFFICIAL THEOLOGY OF VATICAN II." Further, Father Henri Boulliard, another disciple of the New Theology, wrote in triumph that the word "supernatural" does not appear in any of the major documents of Vatican II.

Who were some other admirers of the New Theology? At Vatican II, two prominent admirers were Father Joseph Ratzinger from Germany and Archbishop Karol Wojtyla from Poland. As these two men advanced in today's Church, so did the influence and acceptance of the "New Theology," despite its condemnation by Pius XII. In the 1980s, de Lubac and von Balthasar were both named Cardinals, without ever having to retract their dangerous doctrines. Disciples of the New Theology fill many theological chairs at Catholic universities world- wide.

Doesn't the fact that some of these men were named Cardinals guarantee their orthodoxy? No. Church history is replete with examples of various types of un- sound men being promoted to high position - Judas being the first.

-- (Union@together.com), November 04, 2003.

Yawwwnnnnn.

-- (Eugene@Is.Smart), November 04, 2003.

I suppose ,you must be asleep at that.

-- (Union@together.com), November 04, 2003.

I'am a protestant...but I'll tell you this.The old tridentine mass is the aacrafice that was used while people were in the catacombs.I wish the whole world was using the tridentine mass and worshiping christ.Letting the church talk of hell and angels taking flaming vengence. Amen!

-- lance flue (usa6sodom@yahoo.com), December 06, 2003.

No, the Tridentine Mass came much later than the secret worship of the early Church in the catacombs. That worship in fact was much more similar to the current rite of Mass. But it was one and the same Mass as either the Tridentine Rite or the current rite. There is only one Mass.

-- Paul M. (PaulCyp@cox.net), December 07, 2003.

That worship in fact was much more similar to the current rite of Mass.

For anyone interested in knowing just how the early Christians worshipped at Mass, I highly suggest 'The Reform of the Roman Liturgy: Its Problems and Background' by Mongsignor Klaus Gamber.

In this book, complete with a forward from Card. Ratzinger, Gamber completely demolishes the myth that the current rite of the Mass (the NOM) is actually a returning to ancient practices. And it also demonstrates how it is the Traditional Latin Mass - not the NO - which has its roots in ancient practices.

-- Regina (Regina712REMOVE@lycos.com), December 07, 2003.