I have been wondering. There must be a place in the mass where the host is considered consecrated, and another where it is not. Assuming something catastrophic* happens between one word and the next, where would be the dividing line? Surely this must have been determined far before this.

*the only priest faints and is carried to hospital, for example.

On a different note, I am still trying to call for a official FAQ entry in the topics, and as an entry into that topic, a note telling how to search this discussion group via Google. I know it can be done, I know that at least one such note was posted, but I need that note to find that note. So I would need that in the FAQ to avoid raising questions like this that have likely been discussed before and resolved.

-- Sean Cleary (seanearlyaug@hotmail.com), March 30, 2004

Answers

Bump.

-- ZAROVE (ZAROFF3@JUNO.COM), March 30, 2004.

The transformation from bread into the body of Christ occurs at the same moment it occurred at the Last Supper, when the words "This is My Body" are spoken. Immediately before that the priest says "He took bread", as he himself does the same, picking up a piece of bread. Then He says the words of consecration, then immediately holds up the Body of Christ for all to adore.

-- Paul M. (PaulCyp@cox.net), March 30, 2004.

Sean,

I posted the instructions here for searching on Google.

-- Emily (jesusfollower7@yahoo.com), March 30, 2004.

Actually while it does seem a very binary thing (either consecrated or not) I was willing to consider that it might not be so.

Thank you for the information. So if the Priest says "This is My" and faints, it is not consecrated.

Thank the other poster for this infor on searches. I still feel that a FAQ topic would be useful, and that that info belongs there.

again, thanks for the kindness and the information,

-- Sean Cleary (seanearlyaug@hotmail.com), March 31, 2004.

im not certain,

but i do not believe that mass would continue with communion at that point. The liturgy of the Eucharist would not have been completed properly and as such would be either invalid (prior to "this is my Body") or illicit (after that point).

The correct action would be for the EM's to place the eucharist (seperately) in the tabernacle until the next mass, when proper liturgy of the Eucharist could be given.

-- paul h (dontSendMeMail@notAnAddress.com), March 31, 2004.

how so illicit? there are places where the EMs distribute consecrated hosts a week after the priest has gone by, arn't there? Sean

-- Sean Cleary (seanearlyaug@hotmail.com), March 31, 2004.