why did actually god create us?

-- sdqa (sdqa@sdqa.com), December 24, 2004

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why did actually god create us?

Love.

-- Daniel Hawkenberry (dlm@catholic.org), December 24, 2004.

Hello sdqa. Thanks for posting your question.

We are speaking here concerning God's purpose in His creation with man. This subject is something that takes our entire life to get into and pray over and enjoy.

God has a purpose, according to His heart's desire. To accomplish this purpose God has an economy. This word "economy" is given to us in 1 Timothy 1:4 -"Nor give heed to myths and unending genealogies which produce questionings rather than God's economy, which is in faith."

Ephesians 3:9 says "And to enlighten all that they may see what the economy of the mystery is, which throughout the ages has been hidden in God, who created all things,"

And Ephesians 1:10 "Unto the economy of the fullness of the times, to head up all things in Christ, the things in the heavens

-- Oliver Fischer (spicenut@excite.com), December 25, 2004.

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Hello sdqa. Thanks for posting your question. We are speaking here concerning God's purpose in His creation with man. This subject is something that takes our entire life to get into and pray over and enjoy. God has a purpose, according to His heart's desire. To accomplish this purpose God has an economy. This word "economy" is given to us in 1 Timothy 1:4 -"Nor give heed to myths and unending genealogies which produce questionings rather than God's economy, which is in faith."

Ephesians 3:9 says "And to enlighten all that they may see what the economy of the mystery is, which throughout the ages has been hidden in God, who created all things,"

And Ephesians 1:10 "Unto the economy of the fullness of the times, to head up all things in Christ, the things in the heavens and the things on the earth in Him;"

This word economy, is essential to our understanding of God's purpose in creating us. It comes from the Greek words Oikos and Noemia, which can be rendered as household law, or household administration.

The verses above show us 3 things. Firstly in 1 Tim 1:4, we should keep in the line of God's economy, rather than be distracted with other things. I will reiterate this point later. Secondly, in Ephesians 3:9 , This economy was hidden through the ages, but now is revealed to us in the New Testament Age. Thirdly, this economy is for the goal of heading up all things in Christ.

At this point, I wish to say that God's economy issues from God's heart to accomplish something for his pleasure. However, along the way, there have been hinderances to the fulfilling of this economy, and so God has a recovery, to recover us back to His economy. Just as in 1 Tim 1:4, we warned against being distracted away from God's economy.

Let me give an illustration. You have a goal to travel to another city, so you save up your pennies to be able to go there. However, one day your money is stolen, so you go to the police station and file a report. Eventually your money is recovered, and you are able to go to that city.

Your overall purpose was to travel to the city, however, because your money was stolen, you had to have a means to recover it. This recovery is wonderful, but it was not the overall purpose, because just having the money was not enough to satisfy you, but rather to use that money to travel to the city.

With this illustration in mind, God has a purpose, and an economy to fulfill this purpose. He also has a recovery, which was put in place to bring man back to His economy. So there are two lines in that are very close: God's economy and God's recovery.

The creation of man recorded in Genesis is wonderful. In the prior items that God had created, He saw that they were good, however when He looked upon His creation of man, He saw it was very good. There is something about man that is intimately involved with God's heart's desire. If you look at the account of the creation of the trees, fish, birds, beasts, and creeping things, you will notice that they were all created according to their own kind.

When we look at verse 1:26 in the creation of man however, we see that man is not created according to man's own kind. God said "Let us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness." Here we see that God was making man not according to man's own kind, but according to God's kind. Of course, we do not believe that man is a god, however, in terms of creation, man was created according to God's kind.

This can be illustrated with a glove and a hand. A glove is created in the image and likeness of a hand, with the purpose of containing the hand. If the glove does not contain the hand, it has no life, no reality, no expression.

In the same principle, man was created as a vessel to contain God as life, so that not only would we have the image and likeness (the human virtues), but we would have the inward reality of God's divine life to fill our human virtues with His divine attributes.

Without the hand, the glove is empty, lifeless, and useless. Without God, man is empty, lifeless, and useless also. We were made to contact God, receive God, contain God, enjoy God, and express God.

This is shown in Genesis with the garden of Eden. When man was put in the garden, God did not say "You have to do this and do that. You have to worship me, you have to love your wife Eve, etc etc." God only gave Adam a word concerning his eating. There were surely many trees in the garden, yet only two were mentioned by name, the tree of life and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

God warned Adam not to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, yet of all the other trees, man was free to eat. Here we can see that God wanted man to eat and enjoy. The tree of life actually signifies God Himself. Jesus said in John 15:5 - "I am the vine and you are the branches, abide in Me, and I in you, and you shall bear much fruit."

Why did God put man in front of the tree of life ? To contact God as life, to take Him in to be his life supply.

We know however that man ate from the wrong tree, bringing in the fall of sin and death. Yet even in this situation, God came in with the gospel, and do you know who it was first announced to ? Satan ! God declared that the seed of a woman would bruise his head.

Well, through the fall of man, God's kind became mankind, independant of God, full of the self. Do not consider mankind to be a positive term. We were never made to be mankind, but God's kind.

At this juncture we note that God's intention from the beginning of the fall was to recover man, because we were made to be one with God. But we could not be one with God, being mankind, because mankind is a different life and nature from God's kind. Our destiny was to be grafted together with the life of God, and yet, only two similar lives can be joined together.

A few years ago, my father was out in the garden chopping firewood, and he accidentally chopped off his thumb. My brother sterilised it in a glass of salt water and then when they went to the hospital, the surgeons were able to sew it back together. Now the thumb and the hand are one flesh, enjoying the flow of blood together.

Had the thumb and the hand been of a different kind of life, they could not be joined together.

Well in God's creation of man, He purposely made us in His image and likeness to be grafted with Him. It was however, a gross situation for man to become poisoned with sin, because he could no longer be joined to God.

Praise the Lord for His recovery. Through His incarnation, God became a man in the likeness of the flesh of sin. And as a man, He took this flesh, and nailed it to the cross, terminating every negative thing in man that made him ungraftible with God. Now through believing into Christ, we may have a full union with Him in the divine life.

Thus, the purpose of the Christian life is to enjoy Christ as our life, life supply, and everything. If we enjoy Christ, we will express Christ, we will have the enjoyment of the highest life in this universe. Spontaneously, our temper, lust, deceitfulness, and so many other things that constitute our natural person, will be terminated practically.

In other religions, people are taught a set ethics and philosophy. As Christians however, we enjoy a living person within us, to be lived out of us, simply by growing in Him day by day through praying to Him, enjoying His word, and calling upon His name out of a pure heart.

All of these wonderful things can be substantiated in our human spirit. 1 Thessalonians 5:23, reveals that we have a spirit, soul, and a body. Our body was made to enjoy physical things, our soul was made to enjoy psychological things, and our spirit was made to enjoy Him ! If we only enjoy physical food and psychological food, we'll still be empty like the empty glove because we were made to enjoy God as our spiritual food!

-- Oliver Fischer (spicenut@excite.com), December 25, 2004.

Why are we born or why do we exist and what's the purpose of our existing ??

Salut & Cheers from a NON BELIEVER:

-- Laurent LUG (.@...), December 25, 2004.

I believe St. Athanasius said, "God became man, that man might become God." This is called "Theosis" or "Divinization" in the Orthodox tradition, that we grow in grace and love to reflect the Divine Life of God, as a kind of extension of the incarnation--we being the living Body of Christ until He comes again.

Cordially,

-- Michael (edwardsronning@prodigy.net), December 25, 2004.

Olly,

Thanks for the post.

Glad to hear your Dad healed up well.

God bless you

-- - (David@excite.com), December 25, 2004.

Simply put, God wishes to share His Eternal Glory with us. He didnt have to create us, but i'm sure glad He did.

-- DJ (newfiedufie@msn.com), December 25, 2004.

God is a community. Even in the furthest transcendant reality, God is there, as a Trinitarian community. The mode in which the Trinity exists and stays in existence is Love. Out of this spiration of Love, we have creation. God continuously creates Godself new, in creation. We exist in this Trinitarian image. Our destiny is to move towards God, not only as individuals, but as a community. The entire universe is evolving, not only naturally, but spiritually and consciously toward God.

-- brian (brian@brian.com), December 27, 2004.

For friendship and eternal love. God is the best friend of each soul, the answer to the question which is each human heart.

-- Joe (joestong@yahoo.com), December 28, 2004.

God created us for His glory. We humans may think of this as selfish, but any selfish act of God is a righteous, totally good thing. Words used in the Bible describing God as a jealous God, or a wrathful God we think of as bad, but applied to God they are wonderful things. The Bible supports this answer. See Col. 1:16, Isaiah 43:6,7. Romans 1:20-23 gives insight as to what we humans have done with this glory.

He created us for His pleasure. "Selfish?" you ask. When applied to God - No!

-- Ryan May (withheld@hotmail.com), February 06, 2005.