do the protestants also teach that homosexuality is sinfull?

-- greg (greg_pisahov@hotmail.com), January 03, 2005

Answers

Response to protestant teachings about homosexuakity

i don't know

-- jer (doofykorn@hotmail.com), January 03, 2005.

Response to protestant teachings about homosexuakity

Most do, soem don't. depends onthe denominaiton.

-- ZAROVE (ZAROFF3@JUNO.COM), January 03, 2005.

The majority that i have come in contact with think it is a sin.

-- DJ (newfiedufie@msn.com), January 03, 2005.

Most Protestant denominations do officially consider homosexual acts a violation of the law of God, and "an abomination". A few of the more liberal denominations however accept homosexuality as a normal "alternative life style", and even freely ordain openly homosexual ministers. In any case, regardless of what the governing body of a denomination (for those denominations that have one) defines as doctrinally acceptable, what actually gets preached on sunday morning is whatever the particular pastor/preacher/ minister believes to be true, based on his/her personal interpretation of the Bible. That's the problem with the whole system. There is no objective, authoritative source of defined truth.

A good friend of mine who is a Baptist belonged to particular Baptist church for a number of years before their pastor resigned to take another position. After a fairly lengthy search they hired a female pastor who came with good recommendations. She wasn't there too long before it started to become clear that what she preached on sunday morning was far removed from what the former pastor had preached. Specifically, the woman was a lesbian and her sermons often emphasized "tolerance of alternative life styles", etc. However, she had a contract, so they were stuck with her. As a result the church split. My friend and a large number of other members went "church shopping" and found Baptist (or in some cases even non-Baptist) churches that preached what they wanted to hear. Of course in this case I agree that what they wanted to hear was in fact the truth. However, the case does illustrate the fact that whatever you want to hear preached, you can find a Protestant church that preaches it. All you have to do is find a Protestant minister who thinks the same way you do.

-- Paul M. (PaulCyp@cox.net), January 03, 2005.

Most mainline Protestants find themselves in a quandry between wanting to love and welcome *all* for whom Christ died, on one hand, and not wanting to try and change the clear teaching of Holy Marriage between one man and one woman that Christ gave us (Mark 10:2-6). Among many, partnered gay or lesbian people are quietly tolerated; it seems folk are often uncomfortable speaking about the issue.

I think there is a growing realization that the Scriptures clearly speak of homosexual relations as a sin and sign of brokenness. But most mainline Protestants long ago "gave away the farm" by not speaking out against remarriages after divorce, or against "living together" before marriage. So among many Lutherans, Methodists and Presbyterians there is a kind of "don't ask, don't tell" mentality.

Christ's calling to us is high indeed, and demanding, and many mainstream Protestants don't know what to do with that. They want to show "grace" but in doing so they have to ignore Scriptural teaching.

Many mainline Protestants also don't think homosexuality can be altered or healed. They have bought into the notion that one is just "made that way".

For myself, I used to self-identify as homosexual when I was in high school and college. Then through an amazing transformation of God's hand, I experienced a "shift" in sexual orientation, and was led finally to meet my wonderful wife, to whom I have been happily and faithfully married for eight years.

This shift was not without struggle, but it was real. The homosexuality I had once loved was, in fact, an empty promise, an illusion, and a bondage--I'm glad to be free of it.

-- Michael (edwardsronning@prodigy.net), January 03, 2005.

'what actually gets preached on sunday morning is whatever the particular pastor/preacher/ minister believes to be true, based on his/her personal interpretation of the Bible. That's the problem with the whole system. There is no objective, authoritative source of defined truth.'

this is true and in this lies the failure of christianity

-- sdqa (sdqa@sdqa.com), January 04, 2005.

the same thing is going on with the vatican and the RCC

'contraceptives are evil'

pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaseeee.........

-- sdqa (sdqa@sdqa.com), January 04, 2005.

i mean if you want to teach that kinds of things go ahead,but then don't do it in god's or jesus's name and don't say that that is god's command,it's a manmade command of the vatican

-- sdqa (sdqa@sdqa.com), January 04, 2005.

but now you will be coming with answers like 'god works through his church and he inspired the people to make that command'

did god also work through the ppl of the RCC when they were selling indulgences?

did god also work through the ppl of the RCC when they red the bible in latin and didn't taught the bible to the people?

and when they started the crusades?

and the inquisitions of the 'heretics'? (when there wasen't even proof that they actually were heretics,for example if a woman was too thin she was considered as a witch...)

i mean this is history

you can find this in any single history book

these are facts

you can never denie this

you can always give your answers and explanations,but this is the truth

the RCC apologised for this in 1995(yes 1995! 5 centuries later!,till then they considered their deeds ok?)

what has the RCC done to change this world?

NOTHING!

some 'charity'

charity my ***

charity doesn't help when the whole system doesn't work

it's not giving the fish,but teaching how to catch the fish that helps

so let's get back to the infaillability thing

so if tommorow comes the antichrist(i'm not saying that this will happen,i just use it as an example'),the RCC can just say this guy is good and everybody just has to listen?

get back to reality people,please

-- sdqa (sdqa@sdqa.com), January 04, 2005.

sdqa:
Must you be so conspicuous by your ignorance?

''the same thing is going on with the vatican and the RCC 'contraceptives are evil'

pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaseeee

One: The Vatican is a city, not Church. The Church is the Catholic Church, not RCC.

Contraceptives aren't ''evil'' they are forbidden for artificial birth control --By God. He is the One who commands us, ''Thou shalt not kill.'' Killing unborn babies is a heinous sin. Get your head outta your pants.

-- eugene c. chavez (loschavez@pacbell.net), January 04, 2005.

"The Vatican is a city, not Church."

Actually it goes even one better. Vatican City is not even a city it is a Country.

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/vt.html

Not that it really make any difference but I don't know of any protestants who have their own country.

-- Michael G. (NoEmail@Nowhere.no), January 04, 2005.

The words "Church of England" coes to mind...And the Mormons may not have a coutnry,but they run Utah...

-- ZAROVE (ZAROFF3@JUNO.COM), January 04, 2005.

Meanwhile, this poor soul wants us to tell him: ''What has the RCC (sic) done to change this world?
NOTHING!''

He isn't from earth, I guess.

-- eugene c. chavez (loschavez@pacbell.net), January 04, 2005.

Well it did give us the current Universiry system, help preserve the classsics of philoosphy and literature after Rome ( The empire) fell, and helped us frm great piticla alliances. No to mention St.Judes childrns Hopsitl and a core of other medical research and charity instettions...

-- ZAROVE (ZAROFF3@JUNO.COM), January 04, 2005.

"The words "Church of England" coes to mind...And the Mormons may not have a coutnry,but they run Utah..."

Sorry, close but no cigar on the Church of England. The Mormons good people I say let's give them their own country!

-- Michael G. (NoEmail@Nowhere.no), January 05, 2005.

sdqa:

the catholic church has promoted educating, feeding, and clothing people in impoverished coutries for generations! this you dont know.

-- jas (jas_r_22@hotmail.com), January 07, 2005.

From the time of at least 100 AD as witnessed by the Didache document, Christians had been forbidden to use contraceptives and abortifacent drugs. Infanticide was also forbidden because marriage and fertility were seen as blessings not curses.

This belief - that contraceptives and abortion and infanticide were immoral was the universal Christian belief until 1930 when the Anglicans decided that married couples could use the pill "to protect their marriage" Yeah, right.

Within years virtually all other Protestant Churches followed suit - and by the 1960's most were also in favor of abortion. Now some are in favor of infanticide.

But nowhere along the way has anyone proved that the Didache is NOT an authentic document and authentic view of the early Church's belief and moral code.

They just choose to ignore it.

As for not letting the Vatican tell us what to do, what did Jesus mean when he commanded the apostles to go make disciples of all nations, teaching them to obey ALL that Jesus commanded and promising to be with THEM always?

Clearly those 11 guys couldn't make disciples of all nations within their lifetimes... so if Our Lord meant ALL nations, this would require centuries, hence a seccession of bishops... and who had the teaching authority in all this? APOSTOLES AND THEIR BISHOPS, not any self-proclaimed Pastor Bob or Susie Q who feels good about themselves.

The Pope has teaching authority because Jesus Christ gave it to his apostles and their successors until the end of time. Their mission is to make disciples of all nations (thus national churches are an oxymoron), teaching them to OBEY (NOT PICK AND CHOOSE) all of Jesus' teachings, confident that Jesus would be with THEM always should they do this.

At no time did Our Lord or any apostles claim that each person should go off and form their own church and do whatever felt good for them. No where in the Gospels or Acts do you see a Protestant like church structure.

-- Joe (joestong@yahoo.com), January 11, 2005.

“The words "Church of England" comes to mind”

Actually the number of practising Catholics in England is larger than the number of practising Anglicans. And of course unlike most other churches, the Catholic Church is not confined to one country. Unlike ALL other churches it has members in EVERY country on Earth.

“did god also work through the ppl of the RCC when they red the bible in latin and didn't taught the bible to the people? …and the inquisitions of the 'heretics'? (when there wasen't even proof that they actually were heretics,for example if a woman was too thin she was considered as a witch...) i mean this is history you can find this in any single history book these are facts you can never denie this ..this is the truth”

Poor confused sdqa, all genuine historians, regardless of their religion, agree that your allegations are most certainly NOT truth nor facts. And you won’t find them presented as “facts” in ANY genuine history book.

-- Steve (55555@aol.com), January 11, 2005.

Within years virtually all other Protestant Churches followed suit - and by the 1960's most were also in favor of abortion. Now some are in favor of infanticide.

Thi sint true, most Protestant Chruches still condemn abortion> soem allow it, byt most condmen it...

-- ZAROVE (ZAROFF3@JUNO.COM), January 11, 2005.