Here's some food for thought. As a regenerated believer, do you believe that only the Holy Spirit alone indwells you, and not the Father, nor the Son? I believe the entire Trinity lives within every believer.

-- Oliver Fischer (spicenut@excite.com), February 14, 2005

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We are made in the image of a triune God. I believe that it is important to make the distinction between the three persons of the Trinity, but if Paul said that our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, then we can have faith that God the Father and Jesus His Son are there, too, unseparably and intimately dwelling together in all of us.

-- brian (brian@brian.com), February 14, 2005.

Oliver;
It would be wrong to disagree with your first premise. The Holy Trinity is not divisible. But as to indwelling every believer; and making all believers ''regenerated'' in some homogenized assembly;

There is no comparison to belief in the WHOLE truth. Some believers do not achieve regeneration as every Catholic does. That's too plain to argue. We must believe what Christ revealed to the holy apostles. All of it. If we wish to be born again. Now you have REAL food for thought, Dear friend.

-- eugene c. chavez (loschavez@pacbell.net), February 14, 2005.

All Christians "worship the Father in Christ through the Holy Spirit"...that is, by means of the action of God in our souls we have spiritual life and hence relationship with God.

Now God qua God is a single being. There is only 1 God. But God has revealed "himself" as a community of persons: Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

When acting with creatures (us, the cosmos) God is one. But the difference of persons refers to his inner life.

Making a very remote analogy to the inner workings of our intellect, we see 3 phases which work interiorly while there is a single effect exteriorly: the knower, the known, and the idea by which the known is understood....

-- Joe (joestong@yahoo.com), February 15, 2005.

The Father and Son indwell us only to the extent that they are One with the Holy Spirit, who is the One who is actually dwelling there. Just as we are seated in Heavenly places with Christ Jesus now because that's where He is and we are One with Him.

David

-- non-Catholic Christian (no@spam.com), February 15, 2005.

The Father and Son indwell us only to the extent that they are One with the Holy Spirit, who is the One who is actually dwelling there. Just as we are seated in Heavenly places with Christ Jesus now because that's where He is and we are One with Him.

Sorry but that sounds very flowery to me. What do you mean by dwelling only to the extent of being one with the Holy Spirit? Either the entire trinity dwells in us, or it doesn't. Also, what is your take on 1 Corinthians 15:45b - The last Adam became a life giving Spirit?

-- Oliver Fischer (spicenut@excite.com), February 15, 2005.

Flowery?? I'm not sure what that means. If I were to rephrase my statement, I could clarify that God the Father is in Heaven and Jesus is at His right hand, so they are not specifically dwelling in believers. Believers are the temple of the Holy Spirit, He is the One who specifically indwells believers. That represents the distinct nature of the Trinity. Each does have a separate existence.

The only way one could truly say that Jesus or the Father is in You, is to appeal to the fact that all three are One, and therefore, if the SPirit is in us, then Jesus and the Father must also be. It would not be wrong to say that, but it is imprecise. In the same way, believers are One with Jesus, so teaches scripture. Also, according to scripture, we are seated with Him in Heaven right now. Would you say that you are in Heaven? Of course not, because specifically, you are here in earth. YET, spiritually, Jesus spoke truly and we ARE in Heaven because we are United in HIM and since He's in Heaven . . . well, that's the paradox in a nut shell.

With respect to 1 Cor 15:45, Jesus is referred to as the last Adam, symbolically. The redemption that Jesus purchased reconciled man to God to redeem man who fell into sin thanks to the disobedience of Adam. Jesus did the job that was originally planned for Adam to do. Since Adam failed, Jesus came to redeem us.

David

-- non-Catholic Christian (no@spam.com), February 15, 2005.